Wearing Makeup Means You Are Lying to Men!?

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

well, although Stefan Molyneux isnt a mgtow, he does make very good points once in a while about women.

what he doesnt do is to go the next step and blame gynocentrism, but well, he is still interesting.

In this video he makes a lot of “funny” points about makeup, and the extremes that women go to manipulate men.

And the way that women would go insane if men did the things women do to manipulate men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtqKlkiNL6o

[narwhalParticipant]

I don’t have a problem when female enhancements as long as it’s something they plan on maintaining. If you’re going to wear makeup when you’re out, then wear it when it’s just me and you. If you’re going to dress nice for strangers, then dress nice for me as well.

Bras are something that I often have a problem with. They will often give you the impression that they have an attractive shape, but in reality their ugly as hell. That said, I’m good with breast implants.

Ok. Then do it.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I don’t think it’s much different than any guy who buys a Rolex Daytona or a Porsche with $900 monthly payments to look like a $30,000 millionaire.

Aren’t people “lying” when they get a $500K mortgage and tell everyone “WE JUST BOUGHT A HOUSE!”?

An attractive woman is an attractive woman. Some professional models look hideous (and unhealthy) without make up, and for them, “makeup” is EVERYTHING.

But there is definitely truth to it, and there was one VERY MANIPULATIVE woman I knew who carried BAGS with her to the bathroom. She was good looking without it, but CAKED on the makeup. Everything about her was a “cover up” and turns out she was one of the most dangerous parasites I can recall.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

In a sense they are lying to men.

[narwhalParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Aren’t people “lying” when they get a $500K mortgage and tell everyone “WE JUST BOUGHT A HOUSE!”?

I don’t think so, because my assumption is that they got a loan. Say goes for women, when I see an attractive face, I assume she’s wearing makeup. I also assume she’s wearing clothes that accent her good parts while downplaying the not so good.

As well, if you had an ugly face and it was socially acceptable to cover it up with makeup, wouldn’t you take that option? Admittedly, that isn’t a fair option because men don’t wear makeup because it isn’t socially acceptable for a reason…we don’t buy into the BS.

Going to your rolex example, it is the same in a way, but once other men (and women) find out that he isn’t who he portrays himself to be, he will not be respected. Conversely, if a woman finds out another woman has enhanced herself in some way, she won’t laugh, she’ll ask for tips so she can pull off the same BS.

Ok. Then do it.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Today I walked into the store, got my groceries, got a funny look from a cashier and went back home. I looked into the mirror and saw I had a “cow lick” in my hair. Did I panic? No. Did I start a fit? No. Did I jus shrug my shoulders and went “eh.”, hell, yes.

I don’t care what I look like, because when you see me, you see the real me. A man. A man who doesn’t care. If bitches want to laugh about my looks, that’s fine. They don’t know what they’re missing, and on top of that I say “they’ll never have it”.

I’m skinnyfat, don’t care about my beard and only wash my hair before going out in public if I catch my reflection in the window or the mirror in my bathroom. I simply don’t give a f~~~. THey don’t want me? Great, more money to myself! They want me? Too bad! They don’t have a single intellectual thought to offer me. Cya, airheaded bimbo!

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

I think the issue is that Sexual Market Value to a woman is everything. What they are doing is artificially increasing their SMV by making out they are hotter than they really are.

I was seeing a woman for a while who was a decent 7 out of ten and looked an 8 out of ten in photos. After a couple of weeks she obviously thought she didn’t need to bother anymore and she answered the door to me with no makeup on and wearing a onesie and glasses. It was then that I saw she was actually a 4/5 out of ten, it was quite scary when I saw what she was actually like.

Women expect men to have good bodies and be good looking which takes hard work and good genes. Any woman who is average looking can make herself into a 7/8 by wearing the right clothes, makeup and hair. They can even to some extent get away with having a poor body if they wear the right type of control underwear.

The issue is that they are only interested in the top 20% of good looking men, when in reality they are not actually that hot they just make out they are.

Can you imagine the uproar if there was a vest developed that made it look like you had muscles and a six pack? Women would be moaning about how they had been lied to. However, it is quite OK for them to wear a bra that gives them nice looking breasts and tight control underwear that sucks everything in.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[Anonymous 3]

Of course it’s deception. Most women are simply not attractive, and certainly not so attractive that somehow 80% of men are ugly in comparison to them. That’s just ridiculous.

Without makeup, most men aren’t drooling dogs for most women. When you see a woman without makeup it’s actually pretty funny. A lot have bad skin, with acne, or odd facial features. And this is without all the high heels and form changing clothing they rely on.

Women don’t suddenly become ugly after marriage. They were always ugly. But men are so shocked that the vision of beauty somehow turned into what their mothers looked like before them. That’s just how things work.

Men are held to an impossible standard. You need to have perfect skin, be a perfect height, have perfect hair etc. It’s unrealistic, but since women cheat for themselves, they feel they can make that demand of men.

And even with women cheating, in the media it’s even worse. Air brushing and endless tactics to make them look better than they are. Although it’s also done for men, and in real life most of those male movie stars are little dweebs.

The US is built entirely on deception. The West in general. It’s a wonder to me more men aren’t MGTOW honestly. I think most people are just so f~~~ing stupid they can’t see it.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

Anonymous wrote:

Of course it’s deception. Most women are simply not attractive, and certainly not so attractive that somehow 80% of men are ugly in comparison to them. That’s just ridiculous.

Without makeup, most men aren’t drooling dogs for most women. When you see a woman without makeup it’s actually pretty funny. A lot have bad skin, with acne, or odd facial features. And this is without all the high heels and form changing clothing they rely on.

Women don’t suddenly become ugly after marriage. They were always ugly. But men are so shocked that the vision of beauty somehow turned into what their mothers looked like before them. That’s just how things work.

Men are held to an impossible standard. You need to have perfect skin, be a perfect height, have perfect hair etc. It’s unrealistic, but since women cheat for themselves, they feel they can make that demand of men.

And even with women cheating, in the media it’s even worse. Air brushing and endless tactics to make them look better than they are. Although it’s also done for men, and in real life most of those male movie stars are little dweebs.

The US is built entirely on deception. The West in general. It’s a wonder to me more men aren’t MGTOW honestly. I think most people are just so f~~~ing stupid they can’t see it.

Absolutely 100% spot on, the whole thing is deception and we are all made to feel like s~~~ if we do not match this artificial standard.

I am constantly shocked at how bad your average woman looks like once she is naked. Once a woman gets to 30 she will definitely have saggy boobs, a belly and skin that looks like cottage cheese. These are the same women who are rejecting 80% of men because they believe they don’t meet their standards. The women that have had children are even worse, some of their stretch marks are absolutely disgusting yet they still think they deserve a top 20% man. They then rename them from stretch marks to Tiger Stripes and post photos trying to convince us of how beautiful they are.

Makeup temporarily increases a womans SMV so much that they believe that the only men that are worthy of them are the 20% Alphas. This is why they rate 80% of men below average on dating website surveys.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Won'tGetFooledAgain wrote:

I was seeing a woman for a while who was a decent 7 out of ten and looked an 8 out of ten in photos. After a couple of weeks she obviously thought she didn’t need to bother anymore and she answered the door to me with no makeup on and wearing a onesie and glasses. It was then that I saw she was actually a 4/5 out of ten, it was quite scary when I saw what she was actually like.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 5]

Keymaster wrote:

Won’tGetFooledAgain wrote:

I was seeing a woman for a while who was a decent 7 out of ten and looked an 8 out of ten in photos. After a couple of weeks she obviously thought she didn’t need to bother anymore and she answered the door to me with no makeup on and wearing a onesie and glasses. It was then that I saw she was actually a 4/5 out of ten, it was quite scary when I saw what she was actually like.

Hey KeyMaster that photo you posted echoes so much truth it’s unreal -that is the thing with women I feel that the mental stability of them is falling apart. Like a collective or something.

[HitmanParticipant]

i don’t think of make-up as an outright lie,
more like enhancing the truth..an exaggeration.
it’s usually easy to see under the paint job, although sometimes they can be pretty skillful in putting on the face they want you to see..
like a movie where you “suspend your sense of reality ” to be able to enjoy the show..

[Anonymous 3]

One of the most annoying things about this, in the past when I was still confrontational, is their flip flopping logic.

When I was being the kind, good hearted boyfriend, I would say things like “Come on, you are naturally beautiful. I prefer you without makeup” like we all do. You know they’re insecure, and “the right thing” to do is to help them cope with it, help them conquer it. They would however, always shut you down and retort with something like “Well I don’t wear makeup for you. It’s for me. It’s my choice.”

But then, when the time comes, when it’s convenient, they would flip the script and say “I’m doing so much for you. Spending hours on my hair and makeup everyday for you, ALL FOR YOU! And you don’t even notice it and appreciate it!” And I thought you were doing it for you because that’s what you chose to do. So which is it?

I remember in my last relationships, I just decided to be as crude as possible. Usual response became “Yeah, you better keep wearing it. I don’t want to lose my lunch. I don’t want to ever see you without makeup” Kind of like reverse psychology in a way, but the truth is, I stopped caring. It’s a lose-lose situation. There is never a right response to it. Only thing they want to extract from you is an emotional response. Nothing but a s~~~ test, so why not just try to entertain yourself.

By all means, do me a favor, keep wearing them makeup. Keep lying to me. Because the truth is ugly, and the truth is each and every one of you woman are ugly, both outside and inside. I do not care about any of you regardless.

[Anonymous 24]

Go to 3:30 for the visual lies of women, or watch the whole thing for a good laugh…In my opinion the last part is the best 50 seconds of his entire career.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioQZrMQegj4

[FearlessMGHOWParticipant 1928]

I don’t mind women wearing make up around me. As long as they keep it on while they’re blowing me as well, then I say, hey, go for it.

It’s if they take off the make up during sex that bothers me. If you’re going to wear something like makeup in public, wear it to bed also for your f~~~ buddy. Otherwise, don’t wear it at all.

Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

[Valentin d’ArimathieParticipant 1]

An excerpt from “The predatory female” :

Disguises

Q. Do predatory females physically disguise themselves?
A. Yes. The predatory female habitually employs subterfuge. Each morning across America, millions of females don disguises. They use make-up, wigs, face paint, phony eyebrows, false eye lashes, eye shadow, lipstick, false fingernails, hair color, corsets, sprays, and other camouflage. Women’s clothing designers often refer to the “illusion” they are creating. Occasionally these females improve their appearance, but the fact remains they are hiding something. They are fooling somebody. The practice is so commonplace that few see it for what it is: deception.

All women, whatever age, rank, profession or degree, whether virgins, maids or widows, that shall impose upon, seduce or betray into matrimony any of His Majesty’s subjects, by scents, paints, cosmetics, washes, artificial teeth, false hair, iron stave hoops, highheeled shoes, bolstered hips, or padded bosoms shall incur the penalty of the law enforced against witchcraft and like misdemeanors and, upon conviction, that marriage shall stand null and void.

Act of British Parliament — 1770

[narwhalParticipant]

Men are held to an impossible standard. You need to have perfect skin, be a perfect height, have perfect hair etc. It’s unrealistic, but since women cheat for themselves, they feel they can make that demand of men.

I disagree with that. Women will slide on these things if you have money, social status, or something else they want.

I completely agree regarding women dressing down for the person they are suppose to be trying to attract. I’ll never forget the day I told my ex that I liked the shirt she was wearing. She told me “you just like the way my boobs look”, and never wore it again.

They play the other side as well. Complaining when you don’t notice them, after they made it clear the don’t try and look good for you. My ex complained that I never said anything after she lost 50 lbs, saying she did it for me. I said nothing, but I wished I had said “you gained the weight for you, you lost it for you.” She doesn’t get to claim she’s doing it for you unless she weighs less (or looks better) than she did when you married her.

Ok. Then do it.

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