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Anonymous24I think the Nobel Peace Prize toting Obama and crew may escalate things to a point of no return if they keep this up. U.S. is a full on rogue state. The people wanted peace when electing Obama and they got 10x the war, pushing us right up face to face with Russia, and soon, half the world.
https://www.rt.com/usa/362839-obama-yemen-necessary-self-defense/
Voting does literally nothing.
Probably Mossad firing duds.. war by deception
Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.
Obama hasn’t closed guantanamo..One of his biggest promises. .and he seems to love the drones striking. .Peace prize?
Should be revoked.
We the people do not want war.
I pray that the world understands that our government is not representing us.Voting does literally nothing.
Something to think about. Hillary is dying. She seems to be hoping to win the election to start a war with Russia. Hillary likely wants to take the rest of humanity with her when she dies.
We have all found ourselves in Jones Town. They are getting ready to pass out the poisoned juice and shot anyone who do not drink.
And this time, there is no where to run. The wind and water currents will carry the radiation all over the world.
Obama hasn’t closed guantanamo..One of his biggest promises.
Because when he found out they weren’t just a bunch of innocent farmers pulled out of bed in the middle of the night for no reason he realized f~~~…what am I going to do with these “people” that will not result in them going right back to what they were doing before? Which was….ya know…trying to kill our troops and supporting terrorist activity.
Anonymous42Just turn up the I-don’t-a-f~~~s and you can laugh away an A bomb detonated near your town. I’d say in your town but you’d be atomized and no longer able to laugh.
Anonymous24Obama hasn’t closed guantanamo..One of his biggest promises.
Because when he found out they weren’t just a bunch of innocent farmers pulled out of bed in the middle of the night for no reason he realized f~~~…what am I going to do with these “people” that will not result in them going right back to what they were doing before? Which was….ya know…trying to kill our troops and supporting terrorist activity.
Stay out of other people’s countries and there would be none of these problems.
You are like the guy who defends home intruders from gun owners who shoot them.
And we all know who supports terrorist activity over and over and over again…
You get your news from Mainstream media or something? Live in a closet? Ever read a book?
Personally, if you are still supporting this nonsense I am seriously concerned for your mental health. We are now pushed up nose to nose with Russia and the world is scrambling taking sides. A good time to stop f~~~ing around everywhere was a LONG time ago. We have improved zero situations in zero countries since 9/11 all under the guise of humanitarian operations for the most part while we do nothing for West African countries who suffer genocides via machete numbering in the hundreds of thousands…
I would also like to add, that if the world’s largest military, bigger than the next 5 combined can’t take care of a couple of goat herders with AK 47’s after 15 years and trillions of dollars I say it is high time to let the Russians take care of it because clearly the U.S. can’t do jack s~~~ other than make things worse, and spend my money doing it, eternally apparently.
Call me crazy, but I say make amends for wrongdoing, stay out of other people’s countries and affairs, and cultivate peace and save tons of money while doing so. The other option is to continue to do what we have been doing. And it looks less and less promising every day. At what point will people wake up?
From the looks of it, it wont happen for most until they see an extremely bright flash in the sky, and only then will they get it for a split second before they melt into the pavement.
You can’t kill your enemies into peace, killing only makes more of them your enemy. The last 15 years proves it. ISIS rose from the ashes of Iraq and Libya. They are human just like you, and if outsiders came into the U.S. and did what we have done to others it would be no different.
Stay out of other people’s countries and there would be none of these problems.
Won’t have to worry about going to other countries to start trouble soon…we’re bringing them over here to make it easier for them lol.
You are like the guy who defends home intruders from gun owners who shoot them.
No I’m not…I’m saying we have known terrorists in custody, why the f~~~ should we let them go? We should have just executed them years ago.
You get your news from Mainstream media or something? Live in a closet? Ever read a book?
I haven’t owned a television in in over a decade, I do plenty of reading.
Personally, if you are still supporting this nonsense I am seriously concerned for your mental health. We are now pushed up nose to nose with Russia and the world is scrambling taking sides. A good time to stop f~~~ing around everywhere was a LONG time ago. We have improved zero situations in zero countries since 9/11 all under the guise of humanitarian operations for the most part while we do nothing for West African countries who suffer genocides via machete numbering in the hundreds of thousands…
Who said I support everything our country does? I simply said people in Gitmo are terrorists, not innocent farmers like Odumbo believed when he was promising to release them all and close it. Its pretty obvious once he got briefed on who they actually were he said oh f~~~…we can’t just let them go…because regardless of your personal beliefs even Odumbo was smart enough to realize it would have looked awful for him when every one of those guys was eventually linked to future attacks that claimed American lives or returned to the front lines.
I would also like to add, that if the world’s largest military, bigger than the next 5 combined can’t take care of a couple of goat herders with AK 47’s after 15 years and trillions of dollars I say it is high time to let the Russians take care of it because clearly the U.S. can’t do jack s~~~ other than make things worse, and spend my money doing it, eternally apparently.
The Russians couldn’t either. You realize they lost a war in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban…which ironically we supported at the time because they were less bad than Russia lol.
Call me crazy, but I say make amends for wrongdoing, stay out of other people’s countries and affairs, and cultivate peace and save tons of money while doing so. The other option is to continue to do what we have been doing. And it looks less and less promising every day. At what point will people wake up?
The problem is the way we do things. It obviously doesn’t work to go in, wipe out a regime, and spend a decade and billions of dollars trying to set up a corrupt puppet government. We either need to go back to the days of imperialism where we go f~~~ a country up, own its people, and take control of its resources and actually benefit from war because we sure as hell aren’t right now, or we need to just stay out and when terrorists hit us just go royally f~~~ up the country who sponsored them. We could steamroll most countries around the globe in less than a week, it would be cheaper to just go roll them back to the stone age every few decades if need be than it would be to try to rebuild them. Maybe they’d get it right eventually.
You can’t kill your enemies into peace, killing only makes more of them your enemy. The last 15 years proves it. ISIS rose from the ashes of Iraq and Libya. They are human just like you, and if outsiders came into the U.S. and did what we have done to others it would be no different.
That’s not true. In the 1950s we were doing a pretty good job of killing Germans and they were doing a pretty good job of killing us. It lead to peace. Germany surrendered and went to the negotiating table when they realized they were f~~~ed, and ultimately things turned out ok between us and them. Of course Germany was willing to go to the negotiating table and had no intention in fighting to the last when they realized victory was impossible.
Now compare them to Japan. It was down to the Japanese with very little air or naval power left vs the allies. They had no f~~~ing chance. They were bunkering down to fight for every square inch of the island when we nuked them…then their emperor realized holy f~~~ing s~~~…if I don’t surrender they can annihilate every Japanese person on this island. Again, killing lead to peace. Its just in the case of the German’s all it took was realizing they lost, where as the more fanatical Japanese had to be dealt an absolutely devastating blow.
Now you need to ask yourself…are modern day Muslim extremists more similar to the fanatical Japanese or the Nazis. Its pretty obvious they are more like the Japs who were also committing suicide attacks at the time and gave zero f~~~s about their or their families death for an emperor they viewed as a god, yet we try to force them to the negotiating table like they are the Germans. If their emperor didn’t order them to surrender after we nuked them, every Japanese on the island would have fought to the death. Maybe its time we just overwhelmingly crush some Muslims and see if the rest want to be more reasonable, because yes, it did work in Japan, and we do have some bombs today that make what we used in Japan look like firecrackers. A nuclear deterrent isn’t much of a deterrent when time and time again we’d rather go fight some half assed land war blow trillions of dollars trying to rebuild some s~~~ holes that hate us anyhow. Might as well just say we don’t give a f~~~ if you hate us, but if you attack us the retaliation is going to be catastrophic for you.
I think some dude I forget his name at the moment who analyzes Defcon status said we are likely now in Defcon 3. And Obama has agreed to send troops to Syria.
Get your s~~~ together bros… just in case.
http://defconwarningsystem.com/
Even the Clinton News Network is having to report this escalation… times are changing now boys!
https://archive.is/s53Un
Anonymous24Stay out of other people’s countries and there would be none of these problems.
Won’t have to worry about going to other countries to start trouble soon…we’re bringing them over here to make it easier for them lol.
You are like the guy who defends home intruders from gun owners who shoot them.
No I’m not…I’m saying we have known terrorists in custody, why the f~~~ should we let them go? We should have just executed them years ago.
You get your news from Mainstream media or something? Live in a closet? Ever read a book?
I haven’t owned a television in in over a decade, I do plenty of reading.
Personally, if you are still supporting this nonsense I am seriously concerned for your mental health. We are now pushed up nose to nose with Russia and the world is scrambling taking sides. A good time to stop f~~~ing around everywhere was a LONG time ago. We have improved zero situations in zero countries since 9/11 all under the guise of humanitarian operations for the most part while we do nothing for West African countries who suffer genocides via machete numbering in the hundreds of thousands…
Who said I support everything our country does? I simply said people in Gitmo are terrorists, not innocent farmers like Odumbo believed when he was promising to release them all and close it. Its pretty obvious once he got briefed on who they actually were he said oh f~~~…we can’t just let them go…because regardless of your personal beliefs even Odumbo was smart enough to realize it would have looked awful for him when every one of those guys was eventually linked to future attacks that claimed American lives or returned to the front lines.
I would also like to add, that if the world’s largest military, bigger than the next 5 combined can’t take care of a couple of goat herders with AK 47’s after 15 years and trillions of dollars I say it is high time to let the Russians take care of it because clearly the U.S. can’t do jack s~~~ other than make things worse, and spend my money doing it, eternally apparently.
The Russians couldn’t either. You realize they lost a war in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban…which ironically we supported at the time because they were less bad than Russia lol.
Call me crazy, but I say make amends for wrongdoing, stay out of other people’s countries and affairs, and cultivate peace and save tons of money while doing so. The other option is to continue to do what we have been doing. And it looks less and less promising every day. At what point will people wake up?
The problem is the way we do things. It obviously doesn’t work to go in, wipe out a regime, and spend a decade and billions of dollars trying to set up a corrupt puppet government. We either need to go back to the days of imperialism where we go f~~~ a country up, own its people, and take control of its resources and actually benefit from war because we sure as hell aren’t right now, or we need to just stay out and when terrorists hit us just go royally f~~~ up the country who sponsored them. We could steamroll most countries around the globe in less than a week, it would be cheaper to just go roll them back to the stone age every few decades if need be than it would be to try to rebuild them. Maybe they’d get it right eventually.
You can’t kill your enemies into peace, killing only makes more of them your enemy. The last 15 years proves it. ISIS rose from the ashes of Iraq and Libya. They are human just like you, and if outsiders came into the U.S. and did what we have done to others it would be no different.
That’s not true. In the 1950s we were doing a pretty good job of killing Germans and they were doing a pretty good job of killing us. It lead to peace. Germany surrendered and went to the negotiating table when they realized they were f~~~ed, and ultimately things turned out ok between us and them. Of course Germany was willing to go to the negotiating table and had no intention in fighting to the last when they realized victory was impossible.
Now compare them to Japan. It was down to the Japanese with very little air or naval power left vs the allies. They had no f~~~ing chance. They were bunkering down to fight for every square inch of the island when we nuked them…then their emperor realized holy f~~~ing s~~~…if I don’t surrender they can annihilate every Japanese person on this island. Again, killing lead to peace. Its just in the case of the German’s all it took was realizing they lost, where as the more fanatical Japanese had to be dealt an absolutely devastating blow.
Now you need to ask yourself…are modern day Muslim extremists more similar to the fanatical Japanese or the Nazis. Its pretty obvious they are more like the Japs who were also committing suicide attacks at the time and gave zero f~~~s about their or their families death for an emperor they viewed as a god, yet we try to force them to the negotiating table like they are the Germans. If their emperor didn’t order them to surrender after we nuked them, every Japanese on the island would have fought to the death. Maybe its time we just overwhelmingly crush some Muslims and see if the rest want to be more reasonable, because yes, it did work in Japan, and we do have some bombs today that make what we used in Japan look like firecrackers. A nuclear deterrent isn’t much of a deterrent when time and time again we’d rather go fight some half assed land war blow trillions of dollars trying to rebuild some s~~~ holes that hate us anyhow. Might as well just say we don’t give a f~~~ if you hate us, but if you attack us the retaliation is going to be catastrophic for you.
1. Obama never said he was going to release them, just move them elsewhere and close Gitmo.
2. Libyans and Iraqis and Syrians did not attack us. In fact, Saudi’s did. So yes, stay out of other people’s countries would be a good idea. Especially the one’s who did us no harm.
3. We are once again backing the overthrow of a regime in Syria for dubious reasons at best. Oil pipeline from Qatar… So yes, once again, we should stop f~~~ing around and let the Russians handle it instead of trying to start WW3. Just an idea ya know.
I do however agree, we should not let people into the country what we have made enemies of.
Anonymous24Won’t have to worry about going to other countries to start trouble soon…we’re bringing them over here to make it easier for them lol.
No I’m not…I’m saying we have known terrorists in custody, why the f~~~ should we let them go? We should have just executed them years ago.
The Russians couldn’t either. You realize they lost a war in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban…which ironically we supported at the time because they were less bad than Russia lol.
1) Sorry for unloading on you.
2) I agree, we should not be letting potential terrorists into the U.S.
3) Obama never said he was going to release them, just move them and close Gitmo.
4) WW2 dynamics are entirely different. WW2 was actual armies facing each other. What the U.S. has been doing is wiping s~~~ out just enough to p~~~ people off and make more enemies in my eyes. And like you said, we could just take the countries completely and be done with these problems. Something I am totally against, but one must wonder why it is not done. One reason may be the intent to wage perpetual war.
5) I was talking more about Syria in regards to letting the Russians handle it. Clearly we are there for bulls~~~ reasons, and clearly backing the terrorists once again with the intent of overthrowing yet another regime that stands in the way of something, in this instance, as best as I can figure it, of letting an oil pipeline go through their country from Qatar.
edit- f~~~ed up double post, didn’t register on my side the first time…If you see this Keymaster, can you delete my last post please? It wouldn’t even let me edit it.
America is also behind the wars in africa. A Ghanian friend of mine told me how the country was coming up and the CIA overthrew the leadership and installed puppets who sent the nation downhill again. Diseases like AIDS and Ebola are created by the CIA and released in africa. As for beer. The idea that nukes were dropped on Japan as a necessity is straight b.s. It was nothing more than experiment to see what would happen if nukes were dropped on civilian populations.
Anonymous24The idea that nukes were dropped on Japan as a necessity is straight b.s. It was nothing more than experiment to see what would happen if nukes were dropped on civilian populations.
And that is why they used two different types. A test and a show of force to lead/bully post war.
I argued against that here awhile back as well, wasn’t feeling up to dealing with that nonsense again in this thread. I mean think about it, it is always the same guys who want all the Muslims dead who are the ones who are O.K. with the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Let me get this straight- Guys bomb stuff because they are tired of people f~~~ing around in their countries, this p~~~es you off, but when someone f~~~s around in your country and you then use NUKES on civilians it’s justified. Complete break from logic of epic proportions. My first quote directly addresses this s~~~.
Also, I really wonder how transparent Fascism has to be until most get it. Our wars are all for corporate interests, our media is all sold out, and the globalists will do anything to anyone to have their way at ever turn.
It’s the hypocritical nature of human beings. Some manage to rise above it but most dont
I think some dude I forget his name at the moment who analyzes Defcon status said we are likely now in Defcon 3. And Obama has agreed to send troops to Syria.
Get your s~~~ together bros… just in case.
If the nukes fly, there is nowhere to run too. All you will be doing is prolonging your death.
If the blast does not kill you immediately, within a minute. A high dose of radiation will kill a person in three days. That is because the high dose of radiation immediately kills the cells of the body with no more cellular mitosis. It just take three days for the body to literally fall apart. You do not want to exist through the third, final day. Think a very, very bad, sudden case of ebola.
And if you avoid this, you still have low dose radiation sickness. Which is not pleasant. Leading to vomiting, bloody stole, sterility, birth defect, and if you exist long enough, cancer of the walking skeleton verity.
Also, during all this. After the blast, it will be like the walking dead, only without the zombies. Where there is no civilization, with dwindling supplies. Scavengers fighting each other for scraps. And the heartbreak of seeing civilization you knew destroyed and those that could have rebuilt civilization are either dead, or fighting for their lives against everyone else.
And if you survive all this, the foreigners, with their militaries, whom prepared for World War III, will eventually invade, take everything you have of value, and either enslave or kill you. So, there is no point in trying to rebuild anything, because you cannot protect what you have.
Given that list of horrible fates and deaths. I will take the immediate death with the flash of light any day of the week.
The idea that nukes were dropped on Japan as a necessity is straight b.s. It was nothing more than experiment to see what would happen if nukes were dropped on civilian populations.
No lol. You have to understand the Japanese mindset at the time. Their emperor was their god, they would die for him. If we invaded the island there would have been much, much more death on BOTH sides. It would have been door to door fighting against a guerilla force every inch of the island. This was the mindset of the Japanese during WWII man, and this wasn’t even their homeland where it would have been even worse.
And that is why they used two different types. A test and a show of force to lead/bully post war.
We used the two nukes we did because it was all we had ready to go. Luckily Hirohito thought we had more and ordered surrender…otherwise like I said…the death toll on both sides would have been much higher as the Japanese were willing to pretty much go to total extinction if need be. They were fanatical back then…they didn’t think like you and I, just like modern day Muslim extremists don’t.
A buddy of mine did a year in Iraq. He told me they were talking to their translator one day, and the guy told them “I like Americans, I understand you are trying to help us and make us a better place, but if tonight my Imam(religious leader) told me to fight you, I wouldn’t come to work tomorrow.” I’m not arguing for or against Iraq here…just saying, Saddam treated most of his people like s~~~, they all weren’t exactly sad to see him go, but they don’t think like we do. If you were at church today and your priest said “Take up arms we’re going to go eradicate that mosque across town and burn it down!” how many people in your church would go along with it…none? If the same was said at a mosque in a middle eastern country it would be done.
I argued against that here awhile back as well, wasn’t feeling up to dealing with that nonsense again in this thread. I mean think about it, it is always the same guys who want all the Muslims dead who are the ones who are O.K. with the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Let me get this straight- Guys bomb stuff because they are tired of people f~~~ing around in their countries, this p~~~es you off, but when someone f~~~s around in your country and you then use NUKES on civilians it’s justified. Complete break from logic of epic proportions. My first quote directly addresses this s~~~.
Where do you think the fighting would have taken place? Do you think the Japanese military was going to go line up in a rice patty, and we’d go line up in a rice patty, and we’d march at each other like the civil war? Or maybe they’d go dig a nice trench and we’d go dig a nice trench and we’d play WWI again and all the civilians would kindly wait on the sidelines and not get involved? Hell no. It would have been a giant, bloody guerilla war in which civilian cities would have been carpet bombed anyhow.
Let me ask you…do you even realize we firebombed Tokyo? What was the civilian death toll for that. Multiply that across multiple cities and you’d have a higher death toll than the nukes caused BEFORE even taking to account any of the troops or civilians that would have died in the following ground invasion. Do you honestly think that would have been better?
You really should research civilian deaths in WWII a bit. Just to name a few…what do the Soviet Union, France, and Poland all have in common? They lost more civilians than troops during the war. In fact…its estimated that across the globe more civilians died as a result of WWII BEFORE you even take disease and famine into account. I’m sorry man, but if you think a conventional invasion of Japan would have been less devastating you obviously have no clue about how fanatical the Japanese were, and you haven’t even put enough thought into it to realize all their cities would have ended up bombed and rolled over with tanks regardless.
Always has been. America is the only country to ever drop a Nuclear bomb on a country. And it wasn’t necessary to win WW2. They did it because they could. Not that I think Putin is some kind of boy scout or that the USSR was a good thing. Btu the level of propoganda that everyone just blindly believes from the BBC, CNN etc is frightening. of course the reporters read from a script and interview other reporters the probably think they are telling the truth most of them. Ever noticed how many kids are pulled out of rubble dressed in immaculately clean clothes without a mark on them? Britain is as bad it’s no different to when we had an empire. The new world order agenda -as much as people brand you a lunatic for saying is as real as the Bilderberg group that meets every year. The police state is coming -I’m telling you and in many ways it is already here. what do you think the EU really is and by eeh way it was Hitler’s plan -taht’s fact that they won’t tell you.
http://www.leavemeansleave.eu
Always has been. America is the only country to ever drop a Nuclear bomb on a country. And it wasn’t necessary to win WW2. They did it because they could
So if Japan had just surrendered rather than refuse to accept defeat and bunker down for a nasty land invasion, we’d have just nuked them anyhow because we could?
Iwo Jima was an 8 square mile island. The Japanese had 21,000 troops on it and we attacked with 110,000 troops. At the end of the battle they lost 18k, we lost 7k. The remaining all didn’t even surrender…many just went into hiding as they had a complex cave network built into the island. If they were willing to fight that hard over a volcanic island with pretty much nothing on it anyhow…what do you think invading the main land would have been like?
Just to put it in perspective… the Japanese mainland is 145k square miles with about 4.3 million troops and 31 million civilians. If they lost the same % of their troops defending their mainland as they lost defending Iwo Jima that alone would have been worse than nuking them, and civilians willing to wage guerilla war, commit mass suicide, and/or just getting caught in the crossfire or killed as collateral damage would have just added to the death toll.
I would also like to add, that if the world’s largest military, bigger than the next 5 combined can’t take care of a couple of goat herders with AK 47’s after 15 years and trillions of dollars I say it is high time to let the Russians take care of it because clearly the U.S. can’t do jack s~~~ other than make things worse, and spend my money doing it, eternally apparently.
Joe, Understand, it was never about winning a war. It as always about making money. It’s why President Eisenhower gave his famous speech about the “military industrial complex” This s~~~ has been going on since Korea. I would like to see men refusing to participate in this by not joining the military, but I also know there will always be mercenary minded men who will always join. Its a shame because the politicians will just use the military, and throw you’re ass to the curb when they’re done with you.
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