Virgin can be MGTOW?

[LeHarfangParticipant 25]

I was wondering, i’ve been checking some sections and it seems at first sight that many of you have been abused by a psycho woman in the past or at least had a very bad experience with woman. Of course i don’t have much relationship experiences to share like you all do as you would expect, so i’m pretty newbie in this area. I guess i was always too anxious and/or stuck in gaming to date girls when i was younger.

So i was wondering, can i consider myself a MGTOW if i’m a virgin and never had a girlfriend at all? I’m 26 years old btw.

I do remember hearing about dramas and all from friends who had girlfriends and never really wanted any of that.

[BryantParticipant 229]

sounds as if you have been going your own way man, yeah theres no reason to think your not welcome just because your a virgin! truth is your pretty damn mgtow! yes some mgtows still do pursue sexual relations with women, some not at all because it is a complete waste of time. so no worries man your a mgtow

"He who lives with honor dies with honor."

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hello and thanks for asking. No permission or approval from anyone is required to be whatever you want.

Being a virgin is not exclusive to MGTOW.

What is exclusive to MGTOW is that you are generally not interested in pursing relationship with women (beyond the occasional sexual fling when the opportunity presents itself – or when you so desire ). No cohabitation. No marriage contracts. Maintaining your own agency. Things like that.

LeHarfang wrote:

I guess i was always too anxious and/or stuck in gaming to date girls when i was younger.

Or maybe you just weren’t interested.

LeHarfang wrote:

I do remember hearing about dramas and all from friends who had girlfriends and never really wanted any of that.

And there you go.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[LeHarfangParticipant 25]

Alright, thanks you for taking the time to read me. 🙂

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

I think for most of the young guys with a brain either didn’t get laid because there were broke, not attractive, didn’t want to put up with drama, and so on.

I think it’s a combination of all of the above to some degree. Who knows.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[BDParticipant 1146]

Being a nice guy will almost guarantee that you do not get laid. You will get used to do errands for them, like fix their car/move s~~~, while they are busy getting F’ed by some A-h#le. Then they will complain to you about the A-h#le. LeHarfang, just be careful if you do get laid that you do not follow and let your penis dictate your thinking, it can play tricks on you. From what I have heard and experienced, usually a man follows his dick around until his mid thirties when the decision making process transfers from his penis to his brain. Keep checking in with Mgtow to maintain your clarity, we are here for you.

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[LeHarfangParticipant 25]

BD wrote:

Being a nice guy will almost guarantee that you do not get laid. You will get used to do errands for them, like fix their car/move s~~~, while they are busy getting F’ed by some A-h#le. Then they will complain to you about the A-h#le. LeHarfang, just be careful if you do get laid that you do not follow and let your penis dictate your thinking, it can play tricks on you. From what I have heard and experienced, usually a man follows his dick around until his mid thirties when the decision making process transfers from his penis to his brain. Keep checking in with Mgtow to maintain your clarity, we are here for you.

Alright lol, i’ll be careful.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Really appreciated the way you guys responded to him – and especially Bullet Dodger. Good people here.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[CaleTuckerParticipant 2]

As a nice, chivalrous gentleman of 15 years… I got nothing sexual. On the 6 of May I stopped caring, did what I want, and my ex wanted me to sprawl her out that night. Not to say “MGTOW/Not being nice gets you laid.” But yeah, I have “The feels, and “What the f~~~?”

 

And yes, I did have my way with her.

Give me a reason as to why I should care, or why I should think of it -that- way. And I mean good enough for me, not you. Your opinion is weightless to my natural instincts.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Being a “nice guy” will get you used as an emotional tampon too.

Ive even had women tell me they get sick of hearing about other womens problems.

Women seek status from other women by talking about their problems.

@LeHarfang  Women are not sweet little angels fulled with love and compassion.Thats an act.

As i look back on all the sex ive had most of it was not very good.

What it amounts to is a few minutes or a few seconds of euphoria.Something we evolved with to aid in the continuation of our species.

So dont believe the hype.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[CaleTuckerParticipant 2]

MgtowWave, I agree on that emotional tampon. Good god, I was a literal tissue. You know the joke about being a shoulder to cry on? Supposed to be that as a nice guy, right? Well when it gets into the literal meaning via mentally, about everyday. Ugh, it isn’t healthy.

 

Also… Men talk s~~~ about each other and disrespect them to show they care.

Women compliment and say nice things to each all the time… majority of the time not meaning it…

 

 

Think about that.

Give me a reason as to why I should care, or why I should think of it -that- way. And I mean good enough for me, not you. Your opinion is weightless to my natural instincts.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

One more thing

Women hate sluts and other women dressing slutty

http://www.uottawa.ca/media/media-release-2477.html

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[jack reacherParticipant 751]

LeHarFang,

I would encourage you to consider your virginity at 26 to be a demonstration of self assertion.

You have made a decision to be a virgin.

We as MGTOW know there are many, justifiable reasons for this. You have made the decision for whatever reasons you have made. You can be a virgin to your death and be the ultimate MGHOW if that is what you chose.

I don’t know your situation, but as men we are often judged by the gynocracy, to be somehow deficient if we haven’t had a prescribed level of success with women. You have to realize that evaluation does not give a s~~~ about you, it only tries to control your behaviour. By remaining a virgin, you have exercised the ultimate power in defining your destiny.

I am not saying stay a virgin, but by all means keep exercising self definition.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

@CaleTucker a friend of mine at work the  other morning  said to me “wtf is wrong with you, you dont say hi to me” He was happy because he just got his abusive girlfriend evicted from his apartment.

He had to go to court to do it.

Remember pussy is nothing but a squishy hole.

 

And women instinctively see it as an asset.

Beware.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[CaleTuckerParticipant 2]

I didn’t take it as a door to something more, or because she offered, but because I could and wanted to.

Give me a reason as to why I should care, or why I should think of it -that- way. And I mean good enough for me, not you. Your opinion is weightless to my natural instincts.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

When i was 26 i was married and so miserable i wanted to blow my f~~~ing brains out.No wonder so many more men kill them selves than women.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[alberta_westParticipant 21]

yup Welcome aha

[BDParticipant 1146]

LeharFang, I would consider you the champion of Mgtow, I mean, how much more could you prove that you have gone your own way? I would be careful though, our society tends to put unreasonable expectations that sleeping with someone can have a special meaning, or inflated meaning, especially if you are a virgin. These unrealistic expectations can possibly lead to disappointment, because it is not all fairy-tales, so just be aware of it. I hope you understand what I am trying to convey here….

This is a fantastic group of guys and we have great KeyMaster, enjoy and welcome to Mgtow.

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[LeHarfangParticipant 25]

Heh, i’m starting to understand, by reading other’s experiences here and elsewhere that sex isnt alway great since it also depends on the partner and goals of men an women are different. Thank you all again for the welcome and tips.

PS: I posted about myself in more details in the intro section, to make it more official.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Oh man, of course ! Its all personal preference in the end.

Im glad Im not the only one here.

 

Im mostly reading stuff, as I have zero to add, except for my ideas from years of thinking it over. Love philosophy. (I still didn’t fully read, Philosophy sub-Forum here, Im leaving that for last 🙂 )

 

When I was 16-18 years old, but craving for girls, It was not an easy transition. Defining what I want took some time and thinking over.

I was good looking then, doing martial arts, visual arts, was a “good boy” overall. I had a PC, but didn’t play as often as now, I was more in to design and music on it.

 

 

Girls were fine (especially the ones in Art class, there was only 1-2 guys and all the rest were nice girls ) , and I met good looking girls in my ‘hood”.
It felt like, everyone dates, so should I, like a thing that must be done for some reason.

I approached girls couple of times, It wasn’t scary or hard. But then, after they were interested in me… I just didn’t care to continue, there was no ..rush or drive to continue to date/relationships.

 

I loved all the steps leading to first 1-3 first date’s up to kissing, grabbing the ass (good boy haha) etc. That felt as a nice rush, felt really good to “fell in love”. But then, once I did those steps, It was like “k, my job is done, its boring now”. And I literary abandoned them immediately and lost any interest in them, and didn’t feel any love for them.

It was like, I liked girls as artistic inspiration – muse, for month’s and years. I didn’t care that they didn’t know, what I felt towards them was good and inspired me to draw, to create stuff. After I hooked up with them, there was no magic or fun anymore, it was down to earth and simple. No fantasy and romance that kept me dreaming and inspired, the feelings I had were lost.

 

Mgtow’s here talk about going the Vulcan (star trek) way, of Logic and going away from Feelings when possible, which I agree, but for me as an artist that was crucial at a time. Feelings are Fun, in a right dose…just like alcohol. lmao.

I don’t draw anymore for 7 years, and don’t romance OR “secretly love” someone anymore for 9.

 

So here goes my story, you could say. 🙂 I chose to avoid women a bit too literally, still searching a substitute for inspiration. Nature doesn’t cut it, sorry nature.
PS. Loved to draw seas, boats etc. Darn it I want to start doing it again this summer. Oil or Aqua/water paint again. (sorry, don’t know the names on english). Man drawing seas is FUN as hell.

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