Veterans deserve a lot more

[freedomParticipant 5129]

Suicide in the veterans population is unacceptable, those people gave it all, please read what’s written in this video and raise awareness

[GregB0Participant]

Great post, thank you!

Active Duty Military service is an occupation that few can understand if they have not also served. You are trained to perform duties that ultimately will end another’s life, in conditions that are uncomfortable and harsh, in locations where you are always a stranger and viewed largely with animosity and following orders that you may or may not agree with.

The continued stress and internal battle sets you up for all manner of social, mental and physical issues. Suicide often seems like the only way to ease that pain and suffering.

You leave the service and come back to the civilian population, but you can never come home as that disappeared when you joined the military. You do wind up on the wrong side.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

It’s a travesty what the veterans go through. So much more should be done in the way of support, therapy, etc.

Those men deserve way more than they are getting.

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

[OgreParticipant 5863]

The problem starts way before the ever utter an oath. I was a First Sergeant, and the resources are all in place and available for those still on active duty. As a vet you still have tons of resources.

The problem starts at age three when they scuff their knee and Mom or Dad says toughen up.

It gets worse when in their teens they get dumped for showing emotions in front of a girlfriend.

Even the recruiters use so are you going to let the service make a man out of you.

They don’t just see friends die, kill people to protect themselves and others. They come home to find out that they’ve been cleaned out by their “loving wife”.

They have been trained since birth in gynocentric disposability for males. These guys can be severely broken and know it damn well, but they try to handle it themselves because seeking help is weakness.

The smallest clinic at my many bases had 10 people in mental health. I could walk in with an at risk person and they were seen immediately. The hardest part was getting troops to ask for help.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[freedomParticipant 5129]

Ogre wrote:

They don’t just see friends die, kill people to protect themselves and others. They come home to find out that they’ve been cleaned out by their “loving wife”.

The things that got me the most in that video was the soldier holding a picture of his baby boy after being divorced and thrown to the street, he looked at the young girl, smile (2:30), then c~~~ grabs her little girl and get away from him. Of course those are actors, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see such event happen.. horrific.

[TrailbossParticipant 1844]

I myself never had an issue. Never asked much of the VA and their bulls~~~. Most of my bro’s I keep in touch with are making it fine. Divorce bulls~~~ yea but…We are all employed, living on our own, keeping it real day by day. We know who we can count on. It’s the civilian world that is f~~~ed up! But then again…if the SHTF, we all heading for each other, my bro’s and I.

An educated, armed populace cannot be enslaved.

[OldBillParticipant]

I am a veteran. I agree that veterans need more assistance. More accurately, I agree that certain veterans need more and better levels of assistance.

As a veteran, I can flatly state that the veterans’ community has more than it’s share of “gimmedats”. There are plenty of vets who want this, that, or some other thing simply “because”. Throwing various bones at the “gimmedats” is quick, easy, and makes it seem as if the veterans’ community is actually being serviced when it manifestly is not.

Satisfying the demands of the “gimmedats” diverts attention, money, and other resources away from those veterans whose service left them with real and complex problems which require real and complex assistance.

Catching a break on property taxes, being able to order special license plates, and all the other “bennies” politicians are happy to throw at the “gimmedats” do nothing for those veterans who incurred real and lasting physical and psychiatric issues in the service of their country.

While veterans do need more, veterans most certainly do not need more of the same.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[GregB0Participant]

OldBill wrote:

While veterans do need more, veterans most certainly do not need more of the same.

Spot on!

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[TrailbossParticipant 1844]

Here’s a bunch who are letting nothing slow them down: Good dudes! https://www.youtube.com/user/MBest11x

There’s another dude: Derek Weida…lost his leg and he isn’t slowing down at all! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2ZhkO3bVCs

His view on veterans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7N_6JvktMo

Some funny stuff with those guys!

An educated, armed populace cannot be enslaved.

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Lot of great posts here on the topic.

Orge and Oldbill make great points that go to the heart of the problems in the vet community. Which really just might have no cure. The generations coming up now,….going into battle,…hate to think about it. The VA system being a total mess in no way helps the current vets, having to wait months if not longer to get an appointment for even basic care,….
Some community efforts here are making an impact, but that is not nation wide.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[Anonymous 12]

In the West the vast majority of veterans are heterosexual white males. No one will care until women or minority vets start killing themselves in high numbers.

[Anonymous 54]

Big Respect Gentlemen.

[F-BombParticipant 25]

Wrote a novel about stuff that veteran’s frequently struggle with. Used my ex-wife as a character template.

[OldBillParticipant]

F-Bomb wrote:

Wrote a novel…

You’ve been here over three months and have only made two posts, both of which are nothing more than ads for your “novel”.

We share with each other here. We don’t think of each other as customers.

If you’re here just to sell, you should leave.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[F-BombParticipant 25]

Where in that post did I say buy my stuff? Me sharing my progress is all it was. Projecting assumptions onto other people is unhealthy.

[F-BombParticipant 25]

Furthermore, the book is geared at women audience. I’m highly doubtful I’d find any buyers on this forum. I apologize if it appeared that way to you, but next time how about a PM instead of lashing out. You know nothing about the book, or anything about my life personally what so ever. Please don’t jump to conclusions.

[F-BombParticipant 25]

OldBill wrote:

I am a veteran. I agree that veterans need more assistance. More accurately, I agree that certain veterans need more and better levels of assistance.

As a veteran, I can flatly state that the veterans’ community has more than it’s share of “gimmedats”.

While veterans do need more, veterans most certainly do not need more of the same.

I agree with this statement. Also, happy late veterans day. Former bomb tech here.

As a veteran myself, I woke up in psych ward with little memory to my past. I’m now in graduate school after working through some horrible side effects from medicines that I didn’t abuse, but was simply prescribed. I will do social work and plan on working as a social worker with a focus on helping veterans. The best advice I can give in this regard is be knowledgeable on the various programs out there for veterans. I can’t tell you the number of officials that simply pass the buck because they are way too lazy.

[OldBillParticipant]

F-Bomb wrote:

Where in that post did I say buy my stuff?

The link you posted has separate Buy on Amazon link. What is that meant to be?

Furthermore, the book is geared at women audience.

Then why link to it on a male-only forum?

I’m highly doubtful I’d find any buyers on this forum.

Again, then why link to it?

I apologize if it appeared that way to you…

Don’t apologize when you don’t mean it.

… but next time how about a PM instead of lashing out.

I didn’t lash out. I called you on your s~~~.

You know nothing about the book, or anything about my life personally what so ever. Please don’t jump to conclusions.

That’s true. None of us here know anything about you. We know nothing about you because you’ve told us nothing.

You’ve been a member since mid-August and, apart from twice shilling your “novel” aimed at women and then whining about being called on you s~~~, you have made no posts. No introduction, no comments, nothing except two ads for your book.

You want a warmer welcome? Introduce yourself and stop trying to sell your s~~~.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

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