Very Sad Child Support Case

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9547]

I know it’s already been discussed on this site a long time ago in the Men’s Right’s section, but I’m bringing it back, because I want an updated discussion.

This is a very sad case of child support. A man who spent $465K on a house he bought and built lost it all and is going to jail because he’s too broke to pay $1,500 monthly for child support. What child costs that much a month? My dad’s mortgage is about that month. This is one despicable judge putting an innocent hard working man who invested in his future to jail because the greedy ex wife can’t get paid! How the f~~~ is he suppose to pay her if he’s in jail and loses his job and the cycle repeats?

This is why I’m glad I learned the MGTOW way when I did while I was in my school years. I never liked girls because of the s~~~ty way I was treated by them. I can’t imagine what guys like him are going through.

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[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22514]

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

I know it’s already been discussed on this site a long time ago in the Men’s Right’s section, but I’m bringing it back, because I want an updated discussion.
This is a very sad case of child support. A man who spent $465K on a house he bought and built lost it all and is going to jail because he’s too broke to pay $1,500 monthly for child support. What child costs that much a month? My dad’s mortgage is about that month. This is one despicable judge putting an innocent hard working man who invested in his future to jail because the greedy ex wife can’t get paid! How the f~~~ is he suppose to pay her if he’s in jail and loses his job and the cycle repeats?
This is why I’m glad I learned the MGTOW way when I did while I was in my school years. I never liked girls because of the s~~~ty way I was treated by them. I can’t imagine what guys like him are going through.
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I really hope these judges and lawyers burn in hell forever for this gross iniquity they deliberately cause.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[L. EulerParticipant 343]

Well ….yes this is now the USA norm; can’t say Canada is much better.
People investigate Dubai etc for a reason!!
Ensuring you die penniless is the only other way here. (not a great option if you have to be penniless doesn’t help for nursing home care)
You forgot the pussy pass for “feminine” child abuse! Like women never do it you know only men!

I’ve got child’s diary that’ll make even the most hardened divorce attorney’s skin crawl!! AWALT not always GALT.

The ONLY reason they want custody is future extortion … the kid won’t get a dime!
It should be called out for what it is extortion, masquerading for family law reform>

L. Euler

[MonkParticipant 16988]

L. Euler wrote:

Ensuring you die penniless is the only other way here.

I knew a man who did this.

When his wife filed for divorce, he bankrupted his company and filed for personal bankruptcy. She got nothing, after which he rebuilt his position to where he was before.

This was years ago. Now of course, she would be able to come after him decades later.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22514]

L. Euler wrote:

Well ….yes this is now the USA norm; can’t say Canada is much better.People investigate Dubai etc for a reason!!Ensuring you die penniless is the only other way here. (not a great option if you have to be penniless doesn’t help for nursing home care)You forgot the pussy pass for “feminine” child abuse! Like women never do it you know only men!
I’ve got child’s diary that’ll make even the most hardened divorce attorney’s skin crawl!! AWALT not always GALT.
The ONLY reason they want custody is future extortion … the kid won’t get a dime!It should be called out for what it is extortion, masquerading for family law reform>
L. Euler

child support == alimony 2/3/4 etc…

no requirements to spend it all on the child. or any of it. no accounting required of the woman. it’s just more alimomy.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[AutoliteParticipant]

L. Euler wrote:

Well ….yes this is now the USA norm; can’t say Canada is much better.

Some will say Canada is worse. We know that the system is phucked. We know that the courts are corrupt to the point of criminality. Why are so many guys still not getting the message???

[BeerParticipant 11832]

The way child support is calculated is bulls~~~. Why does it cost more or less depending what you make? If I made 60k a year or 300k a year I wouldn’t raise my kids any differently, and I’d raise them like my parents raised me. They’d have a comfortable childhood sure, but they wouldn’t be spoiled, and they’d be raised to understand the value of money and work. But its obvious, like others have said, its pretty much just another form of alimony and forced wealth transfer from men to women. So much for equality. It should simply be a government figure each year like the government calculates the poverty line, and both parents are required to come up with 50% of that figure. If mom can’t afford it, well then maybe dad should get the better end of the custody arrangement.

[TwistParticipant]

To me it is a gift. A monthly gift that reminds me what a f~~~ing c~~~ she was, is, and will always be.

So she totally ruined two children. That’s her choice, right?

[JakeParticipant 908]

if we all stop .

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2729]

Bullsh!t like this gets my red-pill rage boiling.

Yes, child support is simply extra alimony. At least with alimony it used to be tax deductible —- but not any more! Now cupcake gets her income tax free compliments of her sugar daddy government:

Starting in 2019 Alimony Not Deductible

And even though I paid child support, my greedy ex made my 16 year daughter get a part time job and pay rent.

And as soon as she turned 18 and the support ended, she kicked her out.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[HermitParticipant]

Man I’m glad all that is behind me now. No more child support. No more pulling money out of my retirement fund trying to start all over after the divorce. All the hassle of buying a new house and new property to put it on………. Sure was glad to get the truck paid off and the bike paid off. I’ll probably have this house payment for the rest of my life, but that’s not too bad.

Getting married is guaranteeing yourself a future full of problems. Again, I’m glad it’s all behind me now. Life is so much easier living alone.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10910]

Beer wrote:

If I made 60k a year or 300k a year I wouldn’t raise my kids any differently, and I’d raise them like my parents raised me. They’d have a comfortable childhood sure, but they wouldn’t be spoiled, and they’d be raised to understand the value of money and work.

This was my argument years ago when talking with my buddies about child support. It costs the same to raise a child (unless there is a medical issue) regardless of how much the father makes. The blue piller started chiming in on how the child deserves the life style that the child is accustomed to and how it is in the best interest of the child. He had no answer when I asked him how he knew his money was being spent on his children rather than his ex’s romps at the various stores she shopped at. He even tried to shame me and tried to make it out like I would pay as little as possible, even none at all simply because I questioned the lack of accountability for the money. Some guys just won’t learn.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Mr. Spock wrote:

The blue piller started chiming in on how the child deserves the life style that the child is accustomed to and how it is in the best interest of the child.

I agree completely. Which is why Dad should get custody. He’s obviously proven to have the ability to provide that lifestyle to the child. After all, it is in the best interest of the child.

Order the good wine

[TaxGuyParticipant]

CPT Obvious wrote:

Yes, child support is simply extra alimony. At least with alimony it used to be tax deductible —- but not any more! Now cupcake gets her income tax free compliments of her sugar daddy government:

Just to be clear, if you are under a divorce agreement that was signed prior, you operate under the old rules. Tax deductible for the payer and income for the recipient. However, if you were to sign a divorce agreement today, OR MODIFY YOUR OLD AGREEMENT, then the new rules apply.

Now, here’s the interesting part of this new tax law. Let’s say the man in the divorce has to pay alimony to the woman. I know, big stretch right? Anyway, say he is in the 25% tax bracket and she is in the 15% bracket and he pays her $10k per year. Under the old system, he would pay $2,500 less in taxes and she would pay $1,500 more, giving her a net $8,500. But combined they would be $1,000 better off. Under the new rules, theoretically he would pay the $7,500 and she would get $1,000 less, ASSUMING he was paying what he could afford.

So, either the man is going to get squeezed even harder so cupcake still gets what she “deserves”, or cupcake is going to have to learn to live with less. I have a feeling the negotiations between divorce lawyers just got harder to settle. All that said, something tells me that the guy is going to end up on the short end of the stick.

Order the good wine

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Mr. Spock wrote:

This was my argument years ago when talking with my buddies about child support. It costs the same to raise a child (unless there is a medical issue) regardless of how much the father makes. The blue piller started chiming in on how the child deserves the life style that the child is accustomed to and how it is in the best interest of the child. He had no answer when I asked him how he knew his money was being spent on his children rather than his ex’s romps at the various stores she shopped at. He even tried to shame me and tried to make it out like I would pay as little as possible, even none at all simply because I questioned the lack of accountability for the money. Some guys just won’t learn.

Yeah its ridiculous. I’d still give them the lifestyle I’d have given them if there was no divorce…I just would give it to them and not the ex. If I was paying for karate lessons, Nike sneakers, and a family vacation every summer BEFORE the divorce, I would try my hardest to make sure the kids had those things AFTER the divorce.

I know I’m preaching to the choir here but what I’ve seen happen all to often is people’s exes driving around in brand new cars and getting their nails done every week subsidized via child support payments, then little Johnny calling up dad crying because mom doesn’t have 100 dollars to sign him up for baseball…so dad pukes up another 100 bucks for baseball while wondering what the f~~~ happened to the 1100 he just sent the c~~~ the week before, and there is absolutely zero accountability on her end and the courts give 0 f~~~s about how she spends that child support money, they just care the guy keeps paying it.

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

If feminazis ever get real power, being a bachelor, or a widower without dependents will not excuse you from support. If your male, single, and without dependents they’ll slap an added tax on us 80-90 percent and force us to support single mothers. They are already talking about it in Europe. It wouldn’t surprise me to see it in Canada in the near future.

[narwhalParticipant]

Beer wrote:

The way child support is calculated is bulls~~~. Why does it cost more or less depending what you make? If I made 60k a year or 300k a year I wouldn’t raise my kids any differently, and I’d raise them like my parents raised me.

While I absolutely would raise my child differently depending on my income, that is MY CHOICE to do do so or not. It should not be mandated for me to do so by the government. I agree that there should bet set minimum amount for child support based on a standard cost of living. As far as whether the father or mother pays the support, it should be calculated based on a percentage of both parents income as well as the percentage of time spent at each home during the month.

To ensure that the child support money is more appropriately spent, all the money should be put in a credit account and work similar to WIC, the account can only be used for approved expenses. But lets take it a bit further, if the government is going to mandate what parents pay in child support when they are divorced, why not do the same for married parents? Take their damn money too and ensure it’s only used for approved expenses? Why not remove this potential (probable) advantage from divorce entirely?

What a child’s NEEDS financially doesn’t change based on their parents income, or with their marital status. The government has no right to dictate this beyond basic needs. Beyond that, it should be a parent’s choice on how they wish to financial support thier children. That is freedom. That is what wars were fought for. That is what America was suppose to be all about.

Think that’s not fair? Like I said, this is essentially what already happens for fathers. It’s similar to what already happens for all Americans through the social security tax.

Ok. Then do it.

[Handsome VicParticipant 1613]

Here’s are links to another child support story from Canada, the first of which includes a photo of Jaramey’s scrawled and bloody suicide note pleading for family law reform.

Christie Blatchford: B.C. man pleads for family court reform in suicide note

Reform Flawed Child Support Guidelines Pushing Men To The Brink

Sadly this is the result for many men, when the forced extraction exceeds their ability to pay and earn, and utterly destroys hope.

The Canadian government does not keep statistics on judgements, amounts, and how much men pay to women vs. the other way around. They do mot want the public to know how lopsided the system is. It goes against the narrative.

I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22514]

Swimcat wrote:

If feminazis ever get real power, being a bachelor, or a widower without dependents will not excuse you from support. If your male, single, and without dependents they’ll slap an added tax on us 80-90 percent and force us to support single mothers. They are already talking about it in Europe. It wouldn’t surprise me to see it in Canada in the near future.

Your taxes already go to support all women. Men put more money into the system in their lifetime and women use up more money than they put in over their lifetimes. De facto men are the only ones paying taxes and women get way more than they ever put in. Already. And its been like this forever. Before women worked careers all rqxpayers were men and most recipients were women and children.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22514]

ResidentEvil7 wrote:

I know it’s already been discussed on this site a long time ago in the Men’s Right’s section, but I’m bringing it back, because I want an updated discussion.
This is a very sad case of child support. A man who spent $465K on a house he bought and built lost it all and is going to jail because he’s too broke to pay $1,500 monthly for child support. What child costs that much a month? My dad’s mortgage is about that month. This is one despicable judge putting an innocent hard working man who invested in his future to jail because the greedy ex wife can’t get paid! How the f~~~ is he suppose to pay her if he’s in jail and loses his job and the cycle repeats?
This is why I’m glad I learned the MGTOW way when I did while I was in my school years. I never liked girls because of the s~~~ty way I was treated by them. I can’t imagine what guys like him are going through.
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This video is clear evidence how much worse divorce courts are today and how massively biased againt men they have become. My dad got divorced in the very early 80s and my mom had asked for more child support, and her lawyer, and the judge, both told her, looking at the dollar figures, there was no more to be had. They didnt throw dad in jail because he couldnt comply with a dollar figure he couldnt fulfill. 38 years down the road and courts dont care if you cant pay a crazy number, you go to jail.

I believe the socialists and feminists took family courts over to destroy tye family unit and make it impossible for the sexes to get along well without hatred and dstrust. All part of divide and conquer.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

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