Useless college degree

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I met a man who has a BS degree in “trumpet practice” and $35k in student loans.

He was my waiter this weekend.

PS, he minored in french horn and flute.

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[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Well you could say he BLOWED AWAY HIS FUTURE. Hahahaha

Damn I feel funny today.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[joetechParticipant]

Maybe he’s looking for a job at the Des Moines Philharmonic? Since he has a degree in blowing his own horn, maybe he could produce his own album and start a solo career. As a waiter with a horn blowing degree, I’d say there’s only “so low” you can go. He’s achieved the pinnacle of failure.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

We are going to hell for this…

But f~~~ it, the devil must be a hell of a funny guy.

Hahahaha

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

He’s only a waiter?

He must not be good at job interviews or self-salesmanship; to be successful, you have to learn how to toot one’s own horn.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[GregB0Participant]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

I met a man who has a BS degree in “trumpet practice” and $35k in student loans. He was my waiter this weekend. PS, he minored in french horn and flute.

This is the perfect example of someone going to college with no real expectations for work after the degree is finished.

This type of degree is tailored for education and not actual performance. Both markets are in decline do the the funding cuts in professional orchestras as well as music education in K-12.

I recently met someone who had two degrees in animal husbandry/zoology and wanted to work with Sea Lions in the United States.

There are less than 10 seaparks that have SeaLion shows and all have 1000% waiting lists of qualified volunteers who are waiting to work with the animals. Absolutely no opportunity for a paid job with benefits in the near or mid term future.

People need to be very smart in researching what degrees will be worth obtaining and exactly what their initial career path will look like.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

met a man who has a BS degree in “trumpet practice” and $35k in student loans.
He was my waiter this weekend

Sad. I am no master of good decisions, but at least have a plan.

[GregB0Participant]

MarketWatcher wrote:

Sad. I am no master of good decisions, but at least have a plan.

This is a very key point Market~~~cher that is often glossed over in conversations regarding 2yr and 4 yr degrees.

Without a clear cut and researched employment plan, neither degree will allow the graduate to get a job that offers upward mobility and career status. Being satisfied to Just have a job these days is a guarantee for barely making ends meet and always living paycheck to paycheck.

Granted 2yr degrees make it much easier to obtain an entry level job, but these jobs by very definition are not meant to be career track positions. The 1950’s through 1970’s had such entry level jobs that allowed you to work 20-30yrs and advance the entire time, but those times are long gone.

I worked for Burger King 1.5 years when I first started college and had a coworker who had two degrees, a BA in History and a MA in Political Science. I was earning $2.25 an hour where he was earning $2.15. He did not want to work nights as this would not allow him to sit in coffee shops and bookstores every morning talking about what he had read in the news magazines and gossip papers. I was willing to work on any shift, doing any job which gave me the $0.10 raise and allowed me to obtain a Comp Sci degree at a time when there were very few Comp Sci graduates.

He now works at Barnes and Noble book store as an hourly sales clerk. You have to have a plan.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[Anonymous 25]

he needs to learn how to blow his own trumpet and promote himself a bit more. maybe he picked the wrong instrument and someone needed to drum that into him more at uni

[GregB0Participant]

Anonymous wrote:

he needs to learn how to

blow

his own trumpet and promote himself a bit more. maybe he picked the wrong instrument and someone needed to

drum

that into him more at uni

Choice Machiavelli

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[Daryll55Participant 2950]

When I was in College sooo many yrs ago (ha), I used to listen to them play,…..

Le t me explain;
I was lucky enough to have a private Dorm room on the ground floor. The downside was I shared a bath with two Asian guys and the dorm RA was right across the hall. The up side was the cherry blossoms from the trees, the smell of fresh-cut grass, and the sound of a bunch of school musicians that would gather in a corner room on the ground floor of the bldg next to me. They would usually get together @ 5pm and stay till 7pm or so. I would hear them as my classes usually ended at 4pm, and my Dorm and their building shared the same parking lot. Sometimes, they would goof around,. Other times it sounded like the London Philharmonic was in there. On those days, I would go outside, kick a plastic chair against my Dorm’s wall outside my window, and listen as I watched the world go by. They would often come out after one of those “good” sessions all smiling and chatty straight into their cars!
My point is that it is important to network, and also truly enjoy what it is that you do. If this guy is a bummed waiter working too much, he is likely not into his trumpet so much. People FIND TIME doing what they love to do.

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[WPLParticipant 2390]

I used to work with a girl who had $40k in student loan debt from her “music production” degree. She told me that they once spent a week in one particular class on learning how to coil mic cables! Granted, there IS a “right” way to coil a cable or cord (and it’s NOT to wrap it around your elbow) — but it’s something that you can learn by watching a video or two and practicing.

She was earning about $20k per year (pre-tax) as a “product manager” (which basically entailed receiving production samples from China, checking them against the specs, and communicating the results). Her long-term “career” plan? Marry her fiancee in a $30k wedding, get knocked up, and let him support her. This is NOT exaggeration on my part — she *literally* said this to folks on many occasions! She could have done that just as easily without a degree that she will never use…

[KeymasterKeymaster]

When I worked as a part time bartender – I guess I was a “senior” by time I was 27 or 28 – my bus boy (or “bar back”) was like my assistant and he cut limes, and kept me stocked with bottles, beer, and ice etc.

He had just graduated from college and couldn’t get any other work – had some useless degree like “soviet art history” or something. I didn’t go to college, but there I was….. tipping the guy out at the end of the evening. And he was up to his neck in school loans. But I always over tipped him and he would treat me like the highest priority over all the others.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10910]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

I met a man who has a BS degree in “trumpet practice” and $35k in student loans.

Man, that REALLY blows!

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[MrMeParticipant 651]

My university program used to be kinesiology ( or exercise science). After one year, I noticed the job prospect are as good as a personnal trainer or a coach, who requieres no study at all.

Learning this, I switched university program to physical therapy thanks to its 99% placement, higher pay and high demand considering the growing number of elderly in our society. Just got one more year to go … if everything goes smoothly.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

I guess he could do worse, like Social Science. That earns you residence in your parents basement. I hate to say this as I work at a major university but some businesses are starting to frown on college degrees or at least some colleges and universities. Who can blame them?: If you were running a business, would you hire a graduate of Evergreen State or the University of Missouri? They would rather hire someone from a trade school who actually somewhat learned how to do the job. At least someone out of the military has a decent work ethic. One can be a complete idiot on how to do a job but if that idiot can show up for work on time, sober and learn something, that idiot has more potential than some Harvard graduates. I ran out of money but went on to a trade school, much cheaper. What bothers me is when Sanders kids want me to pay for their worthless degrees when I couldn’t afford my degree in Business Management at a community college.

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