University of Texas tells its police to hide evidence that favors students accus

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    Hellraider
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    #206920
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    Hellraider
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    #206937
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    NEVERGEL
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    Essentially, the college campus has become the Salem Witch Trials for young men.
    There has never been a more urgent time to reach those young men and warn them before they ruin their lives by having any sort of contact with females.

    I live the life I love and I love the life I live.

    #206967
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    Jan Sobieski
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    Not against the law as it isn’t a trial.

    It is a railroad as in the feminist express. Whot. Whot.

    Is there any doubt the goal of feminism is to drive men out of higher education.

    Then disenfranchise them because all jobs will require a college degree.

    Mark my words.

    Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

    #206971
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    Atton
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    Even a small men’s rights movement with common goals and idea could create trouble for people like this. When you write a few angry letters and make a few legal threats things tend to change. It works for feminsts why can’t it work for the MRM.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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    Narwhal
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    Disagree Jan. I graduated from the University of Texas and actually had dealings with the campus police. I got sucker punched during a pickup game on campus…dude broke my nose. Someone called the campus police, who took details and names of witnesses, then escorted me to the campus clinic. The police identified the guy and wanted me to press charges (I didn’t, I settled for him paying my med bills only).

    Point is, UT campus police are an actual, legal police force, not rent-a-cops. If they tampered with evidence, or failed to present all evidence, it would be criminal, the same as if that was done at any other police department.

    As a man and as an alumni, I find this very disturbing. Any police officer who takes this advice should be prosecuted. On some level I can understand how a victim (rape or otherwise) may give incorrect or inconsistent account of the event due to being emotionally distraught. However, it’s not the police officer’s job to decide what statements should be thrown out. Is that not the judge and jury’s job? (With expert medical testimony on the mental state of victims)

    Ok. Then do it.

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    Jan Sobieski
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    An assault is a criminal infraction.

    A title IX hearing is not. There is no judge. It is administrative hearing.
    Rules of law do not apply.

    Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

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    Varun
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    Just out of the blue, is there no way for a guy to successfully graduate college without keeping his mouth and his hands folded 90% of the time in America? I’m hoping the situation isn’t that bad, right?

    I actualy thought American colleges were real-life paradises and you guys make it sound like its a hell-a-dise.

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

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    Narwhal
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    An assault is a criminal infraction.

    A title IX hearing is not. There is no judge. It is administrative hearing.
    Rules of law do not apply.

    So your saying that if I went and reported a rape (sexual assault) to the police, who happened to be located on college campus, they would not treat it as assault, but as a title IX issue? I do believe that there is some truth to that, but the idea of such a thing happening is utterly preposterous and criminal. The idea that a police force would take advice from an educational facility, on how to investigate an alleged victim…is utterly preposterous and criminal. I say it’s criminal when the educational facility is recommending the police tamper with evidence to get the desired outcome.

    Reporting of a crime to the police should NEVER result in a title IX hearing. If a school wants to expel or suspend a student for misconduct, with their own personnel, they can do so as they wish. Even then, if it’s a public institution, they should have a lot more evidence then just the alleged victim’s word…especially if it’s not consistent. As a tax payer, I would much prefer they simply follow the lead of whatever legal decision is made on the matter.

    I am no lawyer, and there may technicalities and details I’m not aware of, but this should not be a complex issue. It should be extremely simple.

    Ok. Then do it.

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    Jan Sobieski
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    http://knowyourix.org/title-ix/title-ix-the-basics/

    Read this article. The female doesn’t even need to call the police. If she said you did you did. Title ix and you are out the door.

    Google title ix abuses.

    Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

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    Narwhal
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    I did a search on your article, looking up ‘Police’ and ‘Criminal’. It says that police should enforce directives if the school has stated the accused and accuser should not have contact. It does not say that a title IX investigation should take the place of a criminal investigation. It does state that a title IX investigation and criminal investigation can occur at the same time. It does not say that campus police can perform title IX investigations, or take advice on how to investigate sexual assault cases.

    You stated the female isn’t required to call the police and that’s correct, but irrelevant. The OP’s original link was about how the campus police should/could investigate sexual assault case (police are involved) according to the educational facilities recommendations.

    To my knowledge, police are to perform criminal investigations, not title IX, civil, or any other kind of investigation. They enforce the law, not school policy. The fact that a particular police departments jurisdiction coincides with a college campus boundaries should be irrelevant. I have no doubt that it does have some relevance, which is absolutely ridiculous, as I already stated.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #207169
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    Jan Sobieski
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    You win, I’m done.

    Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

    #207180
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    Bob__
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    College is just a stupid pointless waste of time. The only real reason people go to college is to get away with doing nothing productive for 4+ years. It’s training for their corporate do nothing job that they only got hired for because some “diversity” quota needed to be filled. The government gives “free” money taken from the productive class to businesses so they can hire people with useless “degrees” to do nothing.

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