Understanding Libertarian Foreign Policy

[Anonymous 14]

The U.S. spends about as much as the rest of the world combined on Military…Why?

Trump actually campaigned on much of what Christopher talks about here in regards to other nations paying for their own security in the latter half of this speech, it was a big part of what got him elected as the GOP since Ron Paul’s run has been moving in this direction, nothing doing on that front thus far since he has been in office…

War is the ultimate display of the evils of Collectivism, many on the Right do not seem to understand this. Either that or they do understand it and let their bias do the not caring on this front, because if their tax dollars were being used to fund wars vs. those they favor they would surely not be quiet, hence my Libertarian Neutrality and pushing back against all forms of Collectivism equally is at times called out as “bias” by these types, even here on a site founded on the principal of Sovereignty…It is in fact their bias that makes them see neutrality as bias as I have never supported any Military action, therefore I have no agenda other than no agenda.

There are just as many “Useful Idiots” on the Right as there are the Left within the Collectivist Paradigm as both sides wish to further their agenda within the framework of Collectivism.

To a Libertarian they are all just a bunch of assholes who want to use other people’s money to further their cause whatever it may be, it matters not if they are on the “Left” or the “Right” as they are all thieves who do not stand for Liberty, Individualism, and the idea of Sovereignty.

I prefer to stand alone. Whatever pulls me in someone else’s direction the most I will continue to push back against the hardest.

In other words; get the f~~~ off my back you Collectivist leeches.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

War? Good business… unless there is nukes involved, then it becomes just mayhem (wich I love).

War controls population, destroy everything Soo you have to rebuild, you sell guns, it is only bad if you lose.

War is great.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 14]

Carnage wrote:

War is great.

Then please do the world a favor and go die in one.

Also, this topic is not solely about war, it is about who pays for it. If you are advocating that money be taken from me and used for things I don’t want it to be used for and that have nothing to do with me you are no different than a Leftist; you are a Collectivist, and you don’t honor nor care about the idea of Sovereignty.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Anonymous wrote:

Carnage wrote:

War is great.

Then please do the world a favor and go die in one.

Also, this topic is not solely about war, it is about who pays for it. If you are advocating that money be taken from me and used for things I don’t want it to be used for and that have nothing to do with me you are no different than a Leftist; you are a Collectivist, and you don’t honor nor care about the idea of Sovereignty.

Hey hey hey.

War, opresión, extermination, are good things, that’s what made USA great in the first place.

I don’t have to go die in a war, that is the reason soldiers exist and they need wars to live as soldiers.

The obligatory military conscription hasn’t been used in years, people join the army out of their own free will.

Yeah, i know I’m a hypocrite, yes I am, but I know it and I don’t hide it.

War on world, I have the popcorn ready.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 1]

Anonymous wrote:

The U.S. spends about as much as the rest of the world combined on Military…Why?

The US is being used as the great big wrecking ball for all ancient cultures. The Globalists want to create a New World Order, they can only do this by destroying the Old World.

If you look at what the USA has done since WWII, it has annihilated one ancient civilization after the other. Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq it just never ends. Bomb them back into the stone age and then rebuild the country in America’s image. Europe was bombed out in WWI and WWII, now they just need to finish off the rest of the world.

You notice there are certain companies that get all the No-Bid contracts with the government. They get paid to destroy the country and then get paid to rebuild it. It’s a nice business to be in, if you are an International Corporation.

Some countries were destroyed through revolutions: USSR, China. The Communists went on a rampage and destroyed all the old history and went on a culture war. Some countries are more resilient to Communism, so in comes the USA and their big Bombers. We are here to make sure all ancient cultures are wiped out. It’s a two prong attack the Left and the Right, together they will annihilate the old world and then create the new.

ORDO AB CHAO

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Anonymous wrote:

The U.S. spends about as much as the rest of the world combined on Military…Why?

You forget that the wages for soldiers and production costs and so on in other countries are much lower.
You can´t just compare the amount of dollars spent, because you get way more in return for every dollar spent in russia or china for example.

[Anonymous 1]

Ohno wrote:

You forget that the wages for soldiers and production costs and so on in other countries are much lower.
You can´t just compare the amount of dollars spent, because you get way more in return for every dollar spent in russia or china for example.

Yes, I find that it is more helpful to look at these figures as a percentage of the Nation’s GDP.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

And you have to take into account the total population of a country as well. For example china and australia spent a similar % but because there are like 50-100 times more chinese, their total growth in military strength is of course way higher than Australias.

Kinda misleading to just say U.S. spends as much on military as the rest of the world combined, because that doesn´t mean s~~~.

[Anonymous 1]

Ohno wrote:

And you have to take into account the total population of a country as well. For example china and australia spent a similar % but because there are like 50-100 times more chinese, their total growth in military strength is of course way higher than Australias because of that.

Yes, in terms of “Human Resources” that is true. Modern Warfare relies heavily on technology though, human lives are cheap. The USA spends big bucks on Aircraft, Submarine, and Space technology. This is far more valuable than the “million man army” of China.

The USA military also encompasses advanced Cyber attacks like Edward Snowden talked about. The ability to cause black outs to a whole country like Japan (through use of software) is an incredible power.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Yes. The first time I read somewhere that the U.S. spends as much on military as the rest of the world combined was in 2012 or 2013. Back then I was pretty stupid and thought:
” Yea, there is only one world power, the US, and noone has a chance against them”

[Anonymous 1]

Ohno wrote:

Yes. The first time I read somewhere that the U.S. spends as much on military as the rest of the world combined was in 2012 or 2013. Back then I was pretty stupid and thought:
” Yea, there is only one world power, the US, and noone has a chance against them”

The US has been doing that long before 2012 though. I grew up at then end of the cold war. I lived through both Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. They both believed that the USA was doing the Great Work. They believed in the “One True God.” The wars in the middle east are “Gog and Magog.” It’s all a part of their Zionist religion.

Remember this one 9/11 part 1…

…and 9/11 part 2 exactly 10 years later to the day.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

The first video I knew…

Anonymous wrote:

I lived through both Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. They both believed that the USA was doing the Great Work. They believed in the “One True God.”

I really doubt that they believed that.

Anonymous wrote:

The wars in the middle east are “Gog and Magog.”

Not really… https://www.gotquestions.org/Gog-Magog.html

[Anonymous 1]

Ohno wrote:

Not really…

Yes Really, George W. Bush actually said that…Watch the Video.

This article sums it up…Bush Gog and Magog

President Jacques Chirac wanted to know what the hell President Bush had been on about in their last conversation. Bush had then said that when he looked at the Middle East, he saw “Gog and Magog at work” and the biblical prophecies unfolding. But who the hell were Gog and Magog? Neither Chirac nor his office had any idea. But they knew Bush was an evangelical Christian, so they asked the French Federation of Protestants, who in turn asked Professor Römer.

He explained that Gog and Magog were, to use theological jargon, crazy talk. They appear twice in the Old Testament, once as a name, and once in a truly strange prophecy in the book of Ezekiel:

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Yeah ok he said that, but I meant that it´s BS what he said.

Well what about you? Do you believe Bush is an evangelical christian and that Gog and Magog are at work in the middle east?

I don´t know what to make of this, you sound like you actually believe he was saying the truth at least in his mind.

[Anonymous 14]

Ohno wrote:

Kinda misleading to just say U.S. spends as much on military as the rest of the world combined, because that doesn´t mean s~~~.

Not so sure what is misleading about a fact…

Also that is hardly the point of my post. In case you missed it, any spending which is not in my, and certainly not in MY NATIONS interest is theft. Since 9/11 the U.S. has been doing nothing but waging wars in Israel’s interest, because all of this s~~~ in the Mid East has f~~~ all to do with me. Right Wingers will agree with taxes being theft… until it is used for something THEY want. Most of the Christian Zionists will complain about their taxes being used to kill in the form of abortion, but never is the same complaint registered when it comes to killing in the form of wars they want, which by the way most of the country does not want. My view is basically you are all c~~~s, and I got no problem saying it, both Left and Right, no difference really unless you are a neutral Libertarian.

Here I sit on a site who’s foundations rest upon the idea of Sovereignty and I have, for over two years now, gotten pushback for wishing to have it not only for myself, but for my country.

Maybe watch the video and get back to me with some actual insights on Libertarianism as a political philosophy.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Only problem is when a country wants to attack or invade you, they don’t care if you claim you are passive or neutral. Look at WWII for a recent example, we sat back for a while and watched the world go to s~~~ and then got pulled into it anyhow.

I don’t think we necessarily need to play world police to the extent we do now, nor do we need to fund so much more than our “allies” who have common interests, but at the same time burying your head in the sand isn’t a solution either.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Anonymous wrote:

Not so sure what is misleading about a fact…

Also that is hardly the point of my post. In case you missed it, any spending which is not in my, and certainly not in MY NATIONS interest is theft. Since 9/11 the U.S. has been doing nothing but waging wars in Israel’s interest, because all of this s~~~ in the Mid East has f~~~ all to do with me.

It´s misleading, because of what Wizards Pupil and I already wrote up there.

How are these wars in the interest of anyone?
You cant be as stupid as you act.
You are writing about this stuff everyday and have 0 insight and understanding of whats going on?
No way!

[Anonymous 14]

Beer wrote:

Only problem is when a country wants to attack or invade you

Nobody is attacking nor invading us, we are doing the attacking and invading. If you are going to bring up 9/11 those dudes were all Saudi, when do we invade Saudi Arabia?

Beer wrote:

I don’t think we necessarily need to play world police to the extent we do now, nor do we need to fund so much more than our “allies” who have common interests, but at the same time burying your head in the sand isn’t a solution either.

It wouldn’t be so bad if we were playing world police from a neutral standpoint. We could have saved millions from death in massive genocides in West Africa like in Ghana and been a powerful broker for peace in the Mid East. But nope, instead the U.S. is Israel’s bitch, so all we do is f~~~ with who they want f~~~ed with. Millions are left to die as we are busy killing millions for Israel… Human lives mean nothing to those running the show in D.C., well, certain ones do, others don’t.

[Anonymous 14]

Ohno wrote:

How are these wars in the interest of anyone?

All the U.S. has been doing since 9/11 is attacking/invading/destabilizing/and supporting revolutions in which hundreds of thousands have died in countries allied with Iran, all planned. They are all in the interest of Israel.

From 2007, well before Libya.

Now we find out if you are a shill or a man.

[Anonymous 1]

Ohno wrote:

Yeah ok he said that, but I meant that it´s BS what he said.

Well what about you? Do you believe Bush is an evangelical christian and that Gog and Magog are at work in the middle east?

I don´t know what to make of this, you sound like you actually believe he was saying the truth at least in his mind.

It doesn’t matter what I believe. They believe it, and they are the ones that matter. Bush and his father were SKULL & BONES. These people are fanatics. They really do believe they are executing a Divine Plan.

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