Trump & Wiretapping Bombshell

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Has anyone noticed this?

1) Casual collection of communications involving Trump and his transition team (they collect everything, of course!).

2) Names of individuals inappropriately unmasked as a result of a specific request (from whom, we do not yet know).

3) Information (including unmasked names) widely and inappropriately disseminated throughout the intelligence community.

4) Has NOTHING to do with Russia or any criminal investigation

5) Information provided to congress through proper channels by one or more intelligence community individuals (most likely from the NSA) whereas the FBI is not responding to requests for followups.

SO:

Data collected incidentally which is apparently legal and common (although s~~~ty). However, names of US Persons unmasked (inappropriate) and information disseminated (inappropriate) and almost certainly by the FBI and for political purposes and Obama almost certainly knew and may have been involved.

Trump’s claims of surveillance vindicated. The intelligence community is investigating the unmasking and dissemination of its own volition. If it turns out Obama requested the unmasking and dissemination… Literally Nixon.

4D Chess, anyone?

[Anonymous 42]

Sweet meteor of death is the only cure this late in the game.

The republic is dead…

[Anonymous 11]

This is super massive in scope. They even tampered with the Florida 2008 election helping Obomber win. I knew that f~~~er was a plant.

Leaks

[AwakenedParticipant 35203]

You can only hide the “TRUTH” for so long !!!

Same as MGTOW/TRUTH, the societal LIES are being “unmasked” to more and more Men on a daily basis !!!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[MagusParticipant 424]

Everything is recorded now. It’s just a matter of what they do with the transcripts. Trump won’t change things.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22556]

This hysteria by the progressives is reaching a manic level. The progressives, everyone from the SJWs feminists at bottom, to the press, to the politicians, to the globalists at the top, have gone all in their insane propaganda.

The progressives know they have been caught in their crimes and should President Trump have the chance he will drop the hammer on them. And President Trump has the full backing of his supporters in doing so. The pro-Trump crowds change “Lock her up!”

So the progressives are attempt to create a false narrative based on lies to justify a conspiracy which amounts to an ongoing attempted political coup against the legally elected President Trump. The progressives want to go further. The progressives already declare Russia is the great enemy of America, that President Trump and Trump supporters are in league with Russia and thus they are all traitors.

Should the progressives actually be able to depose the legally sitting president, their next act will be to attempt to imprison or execute any Trump supporters they can find. That will lead to a shooting war in the U.S.

Keep in mind if the situation leads to that point, the progressives will have to bloodthirsty propaganda movement going full momentum or their movement collapses into infighting that will doom as the rest of the nation rebels against them. The progressives will have to kill more and more people on the grounds they are Russian agents. Though, eventually, the progressives will start accusing and executing their own members to maintain their paranoid hold of power.

This progressive coup and political purge would likely turn into a “great terror” situation from the French Revolution, where the revolution devoured its own revolutionaries.

This is all hypocritical. The true traitors in league with foreign powers are progressives. These are some of the crimes the progressives are worried about being punished over.

Meanwhile, President Trump and the Trump supporters are populist nationalists.

It is said that the last stage of a fanatic is to become the enemy. Well, the progressives have become the enemy. Over sixty years ago progressives railed against red scare McCarthyism. Now, the progressives are the red scare McCarthyists.

[narwhalParticipant]

Stargazer wrote:

4D Chess, anyone?

The problem with every chess game is that it is still a game. It’s like Chewbacca playing that chess-like game against C-3PO. There are only 2 outcomes. The wookie wins or the droid wins and the wookie tears your arms off. The lesson is that the game ultimately doesn’t matter if the wookie is better where it really matters, strength.

Same goes for politics it’s a stupid game where the truth was lost a long time ago. The wookie (the people in this case) have just about had it with the game and are about ready to start ripping arms off.

Stepping back again, I don’t get how people get so blinded that they can’t follow simple logic. Media says Trump tower was wiretapped. Therefore, they are either lying and can’t be trusted AND/OR Trump tower was wiretapped for political reasons. There are no other options.

As well it’s clear that power in this country is not where it should be. Power doesn’t reside in the elected, but in the people willing to throw their money and influence around, regardless of Constitutional rights. The media is free to perpetuate propaganda. The judges govern from the bench based on their feelings. Corporations control the legislature through lobbying. The rich pay the poor to riot. The poor are controlled through government handouts. And the truth is silenced by the narrative.

Ok. Then do it.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Oh, I don’t agree that the republic is dead. The foundation may be rotting and a lot of work may be required to fix it, but it isn’t collapsed yet so there’s still a chance make it right.

Letting the wookie win isn’t the answer here. Oh, the wookie may very well tear your arm out… but ironically it’s that very same wookie that’s going to have to re-attach it (Chewbacca was the mechanic so the metaphor fits).

The answer is to keep acting stupid and then outsmart the wookie at every turn. And yes, politics is a game. It always has been and always will be… but that doesn’t mean that truth, justice and merit has to resign itself to loosing.

Now, if it’s your strategy to sit back and let the cancer burn itself out then I can appreciate that. But giving up on the body and simply waiting for death is defeatist and sad. Regardless of your level of commitment to saving this world, however, you’ve got to admit it’s entertaining to watch CNN spokesmodels twist and contort themselves as they report on Trump being right over and over again.

[narwhalParticipant]

@doc… I should explained better. I see ‘the wookie’ in this case as the conservatives, MGTOW, Trump supporters. They are the ones who are no longer interested in the game, they only want the results.

I don’t care what the media says because I don’t believe them I don’t care what Trump tweeted. I don’t care about who wiretapped who and who ordered it. I don’t care about xenophobia, racism, or sexism claims. I don’t care about your filibuster. I don’t care about how she sits on the couch, I don’t care about microwave cameras. It’s all a stupid game

It’s not a perfect analogy, but those who refuse to deal with reality, the truth, who keep playing these games…they will either lose, or they will win but the wookie tears your arms off…figuratively speaking.

And I’m not all say that I want the republic to end. I hope it never comes to that. But the road we are going on is a dead end. Trump is not the best driver, but at least he’s trying to turn to car around.

Ok. Then do it.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22556]

narwhal wrote:

I don’t care what the media says because I don’t believe them I don’t care what Trump tweeted. I don’t care about who wiretapped who and who ordered it. I don’t care about xenophobia, racism, or sexism claims. I don’t care about your filibuster. I don’t care about how she sits on the couch, I don’t care about microwave cameras. It’s all a stupid game

You need to care. Those doing the spying are in league with foreign organizations, with both the domestic spy agencies and their foreign counterparts using spying and the press with the intent to create scandals and use blackmail to subvert the will of the people.

Populism is on the rise across the world.

The policies of rigging elections and appointments to place weak leaderships which is easily control from the shadows are no longer working.

When these spy agencies and their foreign associates realize that such action no longer work, they will employ more desperate and destructive tactics to push their corrupt agendas.

[narwhalParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

When these spy agencies and their foreign associates realize that such action no longer work, they will employ more desperate and destructive tactics to push their corrupt agendas.

I get that, but why does that mean I should pay attention to the garbage politics? If I place value on their propaganda, if I stop supporting Trump because of his antics, then they already won. They won’t give up till they win, so if the options are let them win or push them to the next level…I’ll push them to the next level.

Perhaps I’m not understanding you, what’s the alternative?

Ok. Then do it.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22556]

narwhal wrote:

They won’t give up till they win, so if the options are let them win or push them to the next level…I’ll push them to the next level.

Well President Trump’s election win has seemed to have pushed the progressives and globalists to the next level. The victory for the nationalists have mentally unhinged the progressives and caused the globalists to start to sweat at the possibility their deceptive work in the shadows maybe all for naught.

narwhal wrote:

Perhaps I’m not understanding you, what’s the alternative?

I believe we are thinking along the same lines. Thank you for clarifying your comments.

[narwhalParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

Well President Trump’s election win has seemed to have pushed the progressives and globalists to the next level. The victory for the nationalists have mentally unhinged the progressives and caused the globalists to start to sweat at the possibility their deceptive work in the shadows maybe all for naught.

Yep, that makes sense. They have stepped it up. I fear that violence is going to be the next step. We see some of that already, and more than few threats against the president.

Ok. Then do it.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22556]

narwhal wrote:

I fear that violence is going to be the next step. We see some of that already, and more than few threats against the president.

Though, the only violence so far has been done in “safe zones” of one sort another. They do not dare try their violent rioting where people have legally owned weapons to defend themselves with.

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