Trump to Commit More US Troops in Syria & Iraq

[Y_Participant 4591]

Trump wading into Mideast quagmire over Turkey and Kurds in Syria

Recall that President Trump had made signature promises during his election campaign that he would “knock the hell out of ISIS” – as well as “drain the swamp” of government inefficiency in Washington DC.

Keeping to his word about coming up with a master plan to defeat terrorism, the Trump administration this week announced a much more vigorous military intervention in Syria and Iraq than was seen under President Barack Obama.

Most problematic perhaps is the fact that US forces are deepening their alliance with Kurdish militants in northern Syria. That has grave implications for a rupture with Washington’s key NATO ally Turkey, as well as the danger of an eventual confrontation with Syrian government forces and Russian backers.

The question remains – is Trump committing for the same reason as Obama or is ISIS his real target?

The irony, however, is that now President Trump seems to be heading right back into the Mid-East morass. Even more ironically is that Trump had used his inauguration speech on January 20 to say that his administration was done with “nation building” and costly military interventions overseas.

Really?

At least from what Tillerson announced this week during the coalition summit, it would appear that US military forces are preparing to occupy areas of Syria and Iraq for the long term.

Said Secretary of State Tillerson: “The military power of the coalition will remain where this fraudulent caliphate has existed in order to set the conditions for a full recovery from the tyranny of ISIS.”

There seems little ambiguity about what that entails. US troops are being committed to, if not nation building, then “region building” within countries.

The clearest sign was the major airlift this week by US forces of Kurdish insurgents to Raqqa, the strategic ISIS stronghold in Syria. Up to 1,000 US marines were reportedly involved in the operation. The development evidently goes beyond Pentagon claims that its troops are acting merely as “military advisers” to Kurdish fighters. American forces are digging in as part of the anticipated offensive to take Raqqa.

However, in backing the Kurds, the Trump administration is risking a rupture with NATO ally Turkey. Ankara has repeatedly warned of a “collision course” if Washington persists in working with the Kurds. The Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) are viewed by the Ankara government as “terrorists” affiliated with the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) based inside Turkey.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his ruling Justice and Development Party fear that the Syrian Kurds will form an autonomous state in northern Syria, which in turn will serve to bolster the separatist Kurds across the border in Turkey.

When Turkey launched its incursion – dubbed Euphrates Shield – into northern Syria last August, the main reason cited by Ankara was to contain Kurdish militants and prevent them gaining a foothold around the Euphrates River.

In a separate report, another senior Turkish security official said Ankara had given Washington an ultimatum on the issue: “Our soldiers will not be fighting together with people who shot us and killed our soldiers and are trying to kill us… This message was delivered to the Americans.”

Turkey is demanding that the US backs Arab militias belonging to the so-called Free Syrian Army. But past experience has shown these units to be unreliable. Besides, the die seems to have already been cast, with Washington moving decisively to align with the Kurds.

If the Trump administration holds to its plan, as outlined this week by Rex Tillerson, of deploying US troops to consolidate self-governing areas, then the American presence with the Kurds will inevitably be for the long haul. That is going to intensify strains between Ankara and Washington. Just when Erdogan was hoping that the new Trump administration might be more amenable than the Obama one, which he fell afoul with over Syrian policy and the attempted coup in Turkey last July.

But a potential quagmire for Trump does not stop there. Syrian President Bashar al Assad recently warned that any US troops present in his country would be viewed as “aggressors”.

If American troops were to set up long-term missions to help the Kurds around Raqqa and northern Syria, it seems only a matter of time before the Syrian national army will be compelled to challenge the presence of US forces in the country. Assad and his Russian and Iranian allies have repeatedly said that Syrian sovereignty and territorial integrity are inviolable.

Thus if Trump tries to make a gung-ho success of policy in the Middle East – and let’s face he needs to show some results.

Trump is already having wearisome trouble draining the swamp in Washington. The last thing he needs is to wade further into a Middle East quagmire.

Citation
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/382211-trump-draining-dc-swamp-kurds/

[bladeParticipant]

F~~~ troops bring on the nukes .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[It’sallbsParticipant]

You fcukin idiot. When are you going to wake up to the fact that people don’t want us to be the world’s police force.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[It’sallbsParticipant]

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Anonymous 11]

One hundred years later we are still dealing with the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

We should not be there. The money and lives wasted by our meddling are forever lost.

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

One hundred years later we are still dealing with the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

We should not be there. The money and lives wasted by our meddling are forever lost.

[MagusParticipant 424]

I hope Trump doesn’t continue these unwinnable wars. It drains our economy and future.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22558]

Magus wrote:

I hope Trump doesn’t continue these unwinnable wars. It drains our economy and future.

I believe he realizes this. Though, President Trump promised to destroy ISIS. This is another campaign promise President Trump is trying to keep.

I am not crazy about this but something needs to be done. The globalist’s creation and support of ISIS and before ISIS the Taliban have been like a cancer on the middle east.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Being the world’s police force is one thing, and it’s stupid. However, suppressing the forces of globalism seems worth the time, since it is such a huge threat to our own country. ISIS has made it clear that it wants to destroy America. That warrants some response on our part.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

Magus wrote:

I hope Trump doesn’t continue these unwinnable wars. It drains our economy and future.

I believe he realizes this. Though, President Trump promised to destroy ISIS. This is another campaign promise President Trump is trying to keep.

I am not crazy about this but something needs to be done. The globalist’s creation and support of ISIS and before ISIS the Taliban have been like a cancer on the middle east.

Of course he will he lied to you all.

h is business as usual controlled by Israel, The Military establishment and Goldman Sachs.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Being the world’s police force is one thing, and it’s stupid. However, suppressing the forces of globalism seems worth the time, since it is such a huge threat to our own country. ISIS has made it clear that it wants to destroy America. That warrants some response on our part.

Trump is one of them.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Being the world’s police force is one thing, and it’s stupid. However, suppressing the forces of globalism seems worth the time, since it is such a huge threat to our own country. ISIS has made it clear that it wants to destroy America. That warrants some response on our part.

Wake the fcuk up man 911-lies about WMD, ever more surveillance in both the USA and teh UK.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Anonymous 1]

No country can remain at war indefinitely. The cost of this s~~~ will eventually bring only ruin to the USA. Look what happened to the British Empire and Roman Empire before that. I’ve had a really bad feeling about this since George W Bush decided to invade Iraq in the first place. I’ve also watched the United States change very much in the post 9/11 world. I hope Trump is able to scale down the disaster in the Mideast before its too late.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

He won’t he’ll increase it.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

there’s still oil there, isn’t there? no president is pulling out of there.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

Why merely just get rid of ISIS when you can conquer Syria outright, turn it into the 51st State of the US, that way, there is no need for Mohammad believers to move to The First World when we can bring the First World to Mohammad believers and as a bonus, so many new jobs can be created when you rebuild Syria.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[hollowtipsParticipant 681]

Cataphract wrote:

Why merely just get rid of ISIS when you can conquer Syria outright, turn it into the 51st State of the US, that way, there is no need for Mohammad believers to move to The First World when we can bring the First World to Mohammad believers and as a bonus, so many new jobs can be created when you rebuild Syria.

I actually think that might be what he’s after. Getting control of land and resources in a time of war for dirt cheap. When the country recovers all the land they took they’ll sell back for a greater value. Plus they probably want to try out new military toys.

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

And as a bonus, it would p~~~ off ISIS and the like as well as put a serious crimp in the plans that any possible Zionist/Illuminati/Globalist conspirators were hoping to achieve.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[MagusParticipant 424]

Faust For Science wrote:

I am not crazy about this but something needs to be done. The globalist’s creation and support of ISIS and before ISIS the Taliban have been like a cancer on the middle east.

What needs to be done is we need to get out of there. It is like kicking a beehive. Or imagine if the Chinese were to invade us. They might get victories and keep us down but we’d continue to fight back and do what we can. Same is happening in the ME. Taliban and the ISIS are the freedom fighters and we are the evil invaders. We need to get out and let them go back to dancing around camp fires and wasting their time figuring out which direction to bow and say prayers 5 times a day. Like we got out of Vietnam.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

You got your ass handed to you on a plate in Vietnam and should never have been there in the firstplace.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

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