Trump really a neocon man?

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  • #768664
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    It'sallbs
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    I know this won’t be a popular view but it’s starting to look more and more like the truth.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/422346-expulsion-60-russian-diplomats/

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #768673
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    Monk
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    I suspect that Trump was genuine in that although he was extremely wealthy, he was not in the loop.

    The Deep State never expected him to win, and he never understood or really experienced the Deep State.

    Now that he is President, he is finding himself isolated and stonewalled at every turn.

    The fact that the British government hates him and tried to interfere in the election in favour of Clinton, says everything.

    #768679
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    Faust For Science
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    Who cares how many diplomats are expelled from the various countries. This is an easy way to appear tough without actually doing anything.

    All that is happening is people are being shuffled around on all sides.

    Now that he is President, he is finding himself isolated and stonewalled at every turn.

    Look at his actions. When he is not doing work in the White House, he is in Florida, where he probably gets work done away from the eyes and ears of D.C.

    #768680
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    It'sallbs
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    This is an easy way to appear tough without actually doing anything.

    Yes and I’m afraid that is all Trump seems to ever do to me.

    Although some have said he will use the military and part of the military budgets to build the wall so I’ll believe that when it happens.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #768699
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    Narwhal
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    I don’t think it’s very effective to categories trump into any group of thought. It seems that is very willing to break from traditional thought on most issues, but is also willing to follow advice on issues he has little concern for or admitted doesn’t have much knowledge on. I’m ok with that, but unfortunately, he’s finding he can’t trust people the way he thought he could. Then of course, he sees a lot of this as a game, where he’ll make moves and compromises that are not the end goal themselves, but to push for something else that he wants. Then there is the side of him that wants to be liked, which motivates some of his decisions as well.

    Hopefully in time, he will figure out who he can and cannot trust. I am fine with the strategy plays. Then, his biggest downfall will be his emotions.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #768708
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    Faust For Science
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    Yes and I’m afraid that is all Trump seems to ever do to me.

    You are asking a foreign leader to do something about the domestic issues of the UK. Do you realize what you are asking? Do you realize the ramifications of such an action?

    Then, his biggest downfall will be his emotions.

    The same can be said for the U.S.

    The U.S.’s downfall is due to half the nation’s population having their feelings hurt because President Trump won the November 2016 election and those whom had their feelings hurt believe they nation needs to be tore down in response.

    #768710
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    It'sallbs
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    You are asking a foreign leader to do something about the domestic issues of the UK

    No I’m not.

    the entire “nerve agent attack” is pure bulls~~~ to isolate and demonise Russai Trump shoulf never have expelled any diplomats.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

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    Faust For Science
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    You are asking a foreign leader to do something about the domestic issues of the UK

    No I’m not.

    Then, what do you want?

    the entire “nerve agent attack” is pure bulls~~~ to isolate and demonise Russai Trump shoulf never have expelled any diplomats.

    More than you realize.

    It is clear the whole Steele Dossier, whom Steele was an outed UK spy, was a conspiracy and collusion between the Hillary camp and the UK government to discredit President Trump during the 2016 election.

    Russia was just the scapegoat and still is the scapegoat.

    Now there is the whole Cambridge Analytica accusations which the UK government is trying to tie to President Trump.

    It is clear when then candidate Trump came out in support of Brexit and the Brexit vote won, the UK government want to destroy President Trump.

    After President Trump won the election, the Obama administration, including the holdovers that stayed during the Trump Admistration, took these accusations and ran with them.

    This latest accusations with Cambridge Analytica is an attempt to further drive President Trump from his support of Brexit.

    #768714
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    It'sallbs
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    Trump should have stayed out of it.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

    #768717
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    Faust For Science
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    Trump should have stayed out of it.

    See above post. The UK government dragged him into this mess two years ago.

    The whole reason UK government wants President Trump either removed from office, or trick the U.S. into starting a war with Russia, is that this would remove any possible tariff threats from the U.S. government should the UK government openly drop Brexit.

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    Ranger One
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    The democrats in the US are by and large a bunch of c~~~s, but the British government is like a diseased c~~~ oozing green pus.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #768729
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    It'sallbs
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    More than you realize.

    Never assume what people do or don’t know or do or don’t reallize.

    You have to understand that I live in a police state where one can be arrested and put in prison for thought crime.

    If you think I’m exaggerating look into Tommy Robinson if you haven’t already.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

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    Faust For Science
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    Ranger One, that explains the mentality and shortsightedness of the situation.

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    Anonymous
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    The more time that goes by, the more Neo-CON he seems to me. His appointment of that Bolton nutcase says a lot to me.

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    His appointment of that Bolton nutcase says a lot to me.

    John Bolton’s appointment should surprise no one. After the Bush Administration, John Bolton did the talk show news circuit and he comes off as a sane man, whom knows what he is talking about.

    Back to this whole nerve gas attack. Blame shifting is beginning with the Russian officials trying to shift the blame to the U.S.: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-26/russia-claims-skripal-nerve-agent-also-developed-us

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    Never assume what people do or don’t know or do or don’t reallize.

    You have to understand that I live in a police state where one can be arrested and put in prison for thought crime.

    If you think I’m exaggerating look into Tommy Robinson if you haven’t already.

    Then you have moral obligation to resist it and attack it in anyway possible. Just joining groups infiltrated by the UK intelligence service isn’t enough.

    #768825
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    Faust For Science
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    Then you have moral obligation to resist it and attack it in anyway possible.

    Or, at least not fund it. Such as going minimalism. Passive resistance is still resistance.

    I agree with many others. If you live in the UK save your money up and leave the UK while you still can.

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    Anonymous
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    Same puppet masters, new puppet. We now have U.S. Generals saying that Americans should be ready to die for Israel…Of course, not in Israel mind you, but in other people’s countries…
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-19/top-us-general-says-american-troops-should-be-ready-die-israel

    Trumps appointees speak volumes too, from the same old Swamp Keeping Goldman Sachs faces to guys like Bolton, hawkish as can be supporter of nearly every U.S. Military action including Iraq, a war that Trump claimed to not be in support of while campaigning.

    https://www.rt.com/news/422144-hawks-dominate-trump-administration-bolton/

    “Get ISIS and get out” in Syria…? KEK! Same old agenda of going after Iran’s allies then Iran is still moving down the tracks that were allegedly laid down 10 days after 9/11. American “Democracy” is being subverted one puppet presidency after another. I suspect this was all planed by Neocon PNAC several years before 9/11 as everything that has come to pass thus far in this new century is exactly what they wanted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

    Circa 2007

    Pete and Faust are Zionists, so don’t expect them to point any fingers in the right direction in regards to U.S. foreign policy, ever. It is undeniable that all the U.S. has been doing since 9/11 is going after countries allied with Iran, just as Israel wants. Zionists were king of the false flag back in the day while Israel was forming, even killing Jews in other countries to get them to move to Palestine/Israel. Israel even bombed the s~~~ out of a U.S. warship trying to get us to go after Egypt back in the day…9/11 in my opinion has the same sort of stink on it as well.

    #768965
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    Anonymous
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    I would have to say yes, Trump is really a neo-CON Man. New Boss, same s~~~. His campaign rhetoric was great and he definitely p~~~ed off the Deep State, but he is compromised.

    The Project for a New American Century (PNAC) will continue as usual, they are just a little behind schedule at the moment.

    #769466
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    It'sallbs
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    New Boss, same s~~~.

    Correct.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

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