Trump orders CIA to release JFK assaination files

[Anonymous 14]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-hell-allow-release-kennedy-assassination-files-153548337.html

Whatever comes from this rest assured, it will NOT be the truth. CIA pressured President Trump to delay the release another 25 years.

I’ve researched this topic for a long time and there are still people alive that were involved. Powerful people. Lee Harvey Oswald killed nobody.

I did a search to see if a thread had been made on this topic yet and found nothing surprisingly.

[DocParticipant]

You think Oswald didn’t do it?

Not disagreeing with you but wondered who you think did it?

I will lay my cards on table and say based on the evidence and on laws of probability Oswald did it for the Mob who then used Ruby to silence him.
Not saying I’m right or wrong. It’s what the evidence suggests. BUT – evidence can be misleading.

It will be interesting to see what the classified files say.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 12]

I’m just a casual observer when it comes to this but I do find it very odd that Oswald was killed so soon after and in public the way he was.

It was like saying “The killer has been killed. Case closed, move along now folks”.

It’s more of a symbolic move on Trump’s part, he’s saying he is the head of the nation not all the people who sit in the background pulling the strings.

[Anonymous 14]

Doc wrote:

You think Oswald didn’t do it?

Not disagreeing with you but wondered who you think did it?

I will lay my cards on table and say based on the evidence and on laws of probability Oswald did it for the Mob who then used Ruby to silence him.
Not saying I’m right or wrong. It’s what the evidence suggests. BUT – evidence can be misleading.

It will be interesting to see what the classified files say.

Thanks for the interest in this topic Brother. I don’t know who the triggermen were but there were multiple teams in the field that day.
We know that Oswald was behind President Kennedy when the shot was fired, yet Kennedy’s head slams backwards as hit from the front. The brain matter spray confirms the shot was fired from the front, not from the book depository where Oswald was at.
Many expert marksmen have tried to fire a manlicher carcano rifle and failed to even come close to doing what Oswald supposedly did. It’s interesting the first gun found was a German mauser and the 3 spent shells were mauser rounds which are different size than a carcano.
Here is a short vid I want you to view if able. Not saying the mob didn’t play a role in this crime, but I am firm in believing the mob has no interest in shaping US foreign policy. They simply handed out the payout money imo.

Edited to add: When the Secret Service supervisor Emery Roberts called back the motorcycle outriders and pulled the Agents away from the Presidential limo, the turn to the right they made was right by the school book depository. The expression and hang gestures from agent Rivka say it all.

Typically, there would have been 8 motorcycles, 4 one on each side of the limo. Let alone 4 Secret Service agents. They are nowhere to be seen..

[bladeParticipant]

I remember an interview with opera Winfrey where she talked to his wife about it .

I thought they exonerated lee harvey saying he didnt do it ?

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Anonymous 14]

I don’t recall watching Oprah for anything Blade 😛 but I do know Oswald’s wife Maria knows Lee didn’t do it. There is an excellent series done by the BBC but eventually bought out by the History Channel where she says such.
Here ya go Blade, some good info here if you have the 8 hours go peruse it.

[DocParticipant]

General Kenobi,
The fatal shot does throw the head back as is hit from the front. I can’t dipute that.
But ballistics reconstructions of that fatal third shot suggest the bullet came from the back

We can only form our opinions on the evidence we have to work with.

I find the whole thing fascinating however General.

I watched the vid. Fair point but the only thing that immediately springs to mind is that the clip is not filmed as the motorcade turns towards the book depository.
The road in uneven and has puddles. Look at other video shot that day and it shows that the road is flat and dry.
If anything that is a shot of the motorcade leaving the airport. Look at the background – it’s empty, like the fields one sees around airports.
Just saying.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

If you believe Oswald did it from The depository window with that POS gun you have never been in the Infantry or shot at a high skill level to a high degree. If you do not believe that he was shot from the front you’ve never shot anyone or any animals at a close enough range to see what a bullet exit wound does and what the velocity of a round from a certain direction does to a body. I sends it in that same direction NOT toward the shot!! That would defy physics.

Let me tell you something gentlemen. This country is ruled by something sinister and it’s much deeper and hidden then the front men in the capital and the WH. Trump better be careful but whatever they release will be a lie anyway.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[DocParticipant]

Let me emphasise this –
I am an empiricist – which means I don’t hold strong solid options on certain matters. Instead I interpret evidence. That’s all.
If the evidence suggests that there was more than one shooter I accept that.

Show me that evidence and I will accept it.
All I say is that the evidence suggests one shooter.

But I absolutely accept that dark forces pulled the trigger and influenced Oswald.

Just saying – if the government wanted JFK dead there were cleaner methods at their disposal.
So it seems like it was more a Mob hit or Cuban led hit – or possibly both.
They couldn’t get close enough so had to resort to the methods we saw used.

Tests have also demonstrated the shots were possible in the time span, with that gun at that distance.

While I think of it – if the shot came from the front the bullet exited from the rear so would have either struck something behind the president or been located somewhere to the rear. Unless picked up by member of public or someone in on the conspiracy.
No bullet was ever found so are we to beleive either the public or someone in on the conspiracy picked it up?
Looking at the angle the shot would have had to be taken it is likely it would have struck the Lincoln or the ground directly behind. No traces however.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 14]

Doc wrote:

General Kenobi,
The fatal shot does throw the head back as is hit from the front. I can’t dipute that.
But ballistics reconstructions of that fatal third shot suggest the bullet came from the back

We can only form our opinions on the evidence we have to work with.

I find the whole thing fascinating however General.

I’m a bit disappointed they did not show the actual Zapruder footage here. The reconstruction team had a fan blowing at 25mph, yet I see no blood/brain spray going towards the back of the reconstruction car as in the Zapruder film. It all goes forward despite the modest wind speed provided by the fan.

If you noticed, before the fatal shot was fired President Kennedy was lurched over and Jackie looks to be comforting him as though something happened. Something did happen, he had been shot in the throat at that point (by a low velocity round imo) The doctors in Dallas confirm this fwiw.

I do think there was a shooter in the school book depository as per the Mauser being the first rifle found along with the spent cartridges, though this could have been a plant and was immediately hushed in the press. I’m convinced there was a team in the Dal-Tex building and at least one gunman perched there as well as the grassy knoll.

Fwiw, Oswald had two co-workers that witnessed him on the second floor prior to the shooting in the lunchroom. There is also a photo of a man in the doorway of the depository that looks exactly like Oswald, though this has been claimed to have been Billy Lovelady which it was not.

Also, there was no gunpowder residue on Oswald’s face which would have been peppered all over him after three shots for the record. My this rabbit hole goes deep doesn’t it DocDJ?

Edited to add: Please forgive me in taking a long time in my replies. I’ve maxed my allotted internet data for the month and am in “safe mode” now which basically lets me have less than dial-up speed. One more day to go til I’m back to reset and high speed.

[DocParticipant]

Without Hijacking General Kenobi’s thread;
I am genuinely open minded here so ask the question –
If Oswald isn’t the (only) shooter, who else is involved, where were they located, what is their motive? What is your evidence for this?

I have had a long standing interest in this like Gernal Kenobi so keen to know what others think.

Just read your last post General. Interesting stuff you produce there. I have long accepted it’s a rabbit hole but yes you are indicating it’s depth.

So you think it was a 3 man triad of shooters?

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 14]

Judge Shredd I fully agree with and support your post 100%.

[Anonymous 14]

Doc wrote:

Without Hijacking General Kenobi’s thread;
I am genuinely open minded here so ask the question –
If Oswald isn’t the (only) shooter, who else is involved, where were they located, what is their motive? What is your evidence for this?

I have had a long standing interest in this like Gernal Kenobi so keen to know what others think.

Just read your last post General. Interesting stuff you produce there. I have long accepted it’s a rabbit hole but yes you are indicating it’s depth.

So you think it was a 3 man triad of shooters?

Just my conjecture per my studying, not saying this is definitive in any way for the record.

Locations: school book depository. The Dal-Tex building. The grassy knoll.

Motive: There are many. Kennedy pledging not to send combat troops to Vietnam (though we had military advisors already there).
The Bay of Pigs. Oswald was undercover FBI informant and was responsible on a training camp being busted for a Bay of Pigs part two.
Kennedy demanded U.N. inspections to the Dimona nuclear plant in Israel and stated to the Israelis they are NOT to produce nuclear weapons.
Conspirators: Charles Cabell Deputy Director CIA. Resigned after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion. Twas his brainchild and he was p~~~ed Kennedy denied air support.
Jack Cabell Mayor of Dallas….smelling fishy yet? 😛
Evidence: I’m going off memory from what I’ve learned from years of research, though I have provided a few links. My isp speed is seriously limiting me in this area atm if more is required I can get’em if needed, just not for another day. Hope that piques a bit more interest Doc 🙂

Edited to add: Yes, I think it was at least three teams. Think triangulation.

[Anonymous 14]

Took me ten mins to pull this up. There is so much valid info here. Jim Garrison was a professional D.A. and Judge in Louisiana. Please give him the time to listen to his work and message. RIP Judge Garrison, you were a Great Man <3

[Anonymous 14]

Thank you so much for that RedPillBible. You spurred an old memory in my brain which is relevant here…
The driver is on video with his foot on the brakes as the brake lights at rear of limo were clearly lit and activated when the limo entered the “kill zone”. As Judge Garrison said, they were going so slow you could have hit him with a rock.
There were a lot of witnesses to this ^. Speaking of witness, and I can’t recall the statistical percentages, but sooo, sooo many witnesses died in suspicious ways the odds were astronomical.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

The official story about JFK is about as true as the official story about 9/11 and so many other things in this bulls~~~ evil world.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Anonymous 14]

DocDJ, I forgot to add another relevant point. In order to even hit a target with Oswald’s supposed manlicher carcano, they had to add three shims to the scope to even come close to hitting a target. 🙂

[DocParticipant]

You make some valid points General. And I accept them all.
I wouldn’t be in the least bit surprised is there were more shooters and Osawld was set up.
But all I say is I haven’t yet seen any firm evidence.

There is foir things that need weighing up –
1. Evidence that says Oswald acted alone
2 Evidence that says Oswald didn’t act alone.

3. Evidence that says there were more shooters.
4. Evidence that says there were not more shooters.

Numbers 1 and 4 do not have to relate to each other. They need to be taken in isolation. As does 2 and 3.

1 and 2 focus purely on Oswald, the gun, his location, etc.

Then totally unrelated to 1 and 2 is 3 and 4. What exactly points to the likelihood one of them is correct?

So in short out of those 4 which holds the most weight?

If it is possible to independently support point 2 then point 3 would by natural law gain strength.

The same applies for points 1 and 4 But each MUST be looked at in isolation.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 6]

He goes into the JFK theory in this video. As well as others.

[Anonymous 54]

I have been looking at this all my life.
Do not try and make it simple.
It is not.

Its easier to ask. who was not involved.

CIA
Mob.
Federal reserve.

LBJ.

Dont be nieive young idiots.

A Coo.

The end of democracy.

Proof?

Im busy.

Figure it out your damn selves.

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