Tradcons (and PUA) are at war against singles.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I figured I would bring forth something I discussed in another post I did, and make it a topic here.

A reason why I am doing this post, is to bring forth another front that MGTOW will get attacked at, that may get ignored when dealing with gynocentrism and militant feminists.  The gynocentrism and militant feminism end up making the frame that women are THE problem, as if there is only one problem MGTOW face.

Consider the aspect of a MGTOW not getting married, and not going down that route, with some not even dating women.  Repeatedly in the media, tradcons bring this up and attack it.  They use shaming and whatever they can get their hands on.  Being single is a threat to their values, in a similar way that MGTOW undermine the PUA.

So, I would want to discuss this also.  Feel free to comment on this.  It isn’t just yourself as a man that is under attack, but the fact you are single that makes you under attack.  Society is not for you if you are single.  If you aren’t increasing the population size by getting women pregnant, and then “manning up” to raise offspring, you are seen by tradcons as undermining the social structure, and increasing the welfare state.

Note I stopped it at singles, and didn’t go “single men”, because the focus of the tradcon attack I am looking at is the state of singleness itself.  From a MGTOW perspective it is “single men”, but the tradcon have ALL singleness on their radar, even single women.

Please feel free to comment below.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 1]

Well, I think that is to be expected. When Roosh made the Neo-Masculinity thing, this, I believe, was his intent, to try pulling back men to the “traditional” role of supporting “good” women. Even the anti-feminism movement is not immune from this. Mgtow is about to be stigmatized badly.

But then, there is the beauty of Mgtow. How can you differentiate a Mgtow, from a guy that is simply single because he was not “selected” by women? Unless the guy comes out ad say he is a mgtow, you can’t! What are they going to do, force us to date? Demand to see our bank accounts to see if we are worthy? Force us to wear a arm band with the mgtow symbol? As someone else mentioned here on the site: attacking mgtow is like attacking fog. We all subscribe to the same core ideals (not you protector, provider or sperm bank), but in the end of the day, each one of us do our own thing. Some of us date, some of us don’t. Some of us only relate to women for sex (with hook ups or hookers), some of us go full celibate. Some of us watch porn, some of us don’t do even that! And that is not even taking consideration physical traits (skin color, body type) or mental traits (hobbies, interests). How are they going to put all these different people under 1 box!  Sooo, I say, let them come. They can waste all their breath, because in the end of the day, that’s all they have. Beside, we have sites like this to vent out. We share our stories and we learn from each other. Tradcons can close their eyes if they want to, but they can’t force us to do the same.

That’s my take, anyway.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

How can you differentiate a Mgtow, from a guy that is simply single because he was not “selected” by women?

Good point. All we have to do is say, “I met Miss Right, but she ran off with a biker and got arrested in a small town in Texas. The wedding is off!”

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[experiencedParticipant]

 

After washing and leaving the public restroom, the loud toilets still echo in the ears. They can echo all they want to.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

BadKan, thanks for the post.  One of the reasons why I try to balk at “Ideological pure” MGTOW, and that pushed, and saying “this man or that man isn’t MGTOW” is that it gives a target that can be attacked, and gets in the way of a man trying to do what works for him best.  I prefer the connections between MGTOW be more stealth in nature, so they can’t get attacked.  There is the trick of trying to help men out though, while being like this.

I also did post this to bring to mind again, that more than one thing gets attacked when you go MGTOW.  If you go non-conformist, the lack of status symbols will be under attack also.  You will have supposed male friends you have get on your case also.  The more you don’t conform, the more groups will shun you first, and then when the problem becomes large enough to them, they actively go after the group they see isn’t involved enough.

I did like your comment about, “How can they tell?” in regards to knowing whether or not the man walked away or the system rejected the men.  I say the best way to counterpoint that is to advance and be a success, without following their rules.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[RoyDalParticipant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

One of the reasons why I try to balk at “Ideological pure” MGTOW, and that pushed, and saying “this man or that man isn’t MGTOW” is that it gives a target that can be attacked, and gets in the way of a man trying to do what works for him best.

Yes, yes, yes. His greatest good is found going his way. My greatest good is going my way. Going His Own Way means exactly that to me.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 11]

Some people live to tell others how to live their lives. MGTOW is in direct opposition to that so they are not going to like us. I don’t care about them. MGTOWs know of the dangers lurking out there, and choose exactly how and if they partake of them.

I’ve found that people don’t really f~~~ with me for being single anymore. I’ve worn them down finally.

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

Anonymous wrote:

Some people live to tell others how to live their lives. MGTOW is in direct opposition to that so they are not going to like us. I don’t care about them. MGTOWs know of the dangers lurking out there, and choose exactly how and if they partake of them. I’ve found that people don’t really f~~~ with me for being single anymore. I’ve worn them down finally.

 

This, it takes a few years though, but when the hassle is finally over, you get a few years peace of mind.

[Anonymous 3]

If shaming still worked there would be no MGTOW. They’ve been shaming the entire time. If they didn’t have shaming, feminism probably would have collapsed in on itself back in the 1970s. It’s somewhat sad that it took something like 4 decades for men to start ignoring the shaming and going their own way, but that card isn’t going to work anymore.

The next step is probably a bachelor tax, but it’s kind of already in there and I don’t think that will work either. Unless they just give up all pretenses and just start enslaving single men and forcing them to work more, I don’t see it happening. Nowadays single women under 35 vastly outearn their male counterparts, so any tax would just hit them harder.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6413]

made decision over twenty years ago i won’t pass my genes and traits to anyone ..if they can’t accept that it’s their problem, not mine 🙂

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

So, on Father’s Day, I decided to do a video on the war society has on the state on singleness, and this being a major attack against MGTOW.  It is connected with this thread:

 

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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