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Enjoy The Decline 3 years, 4 months ago.
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i have read many posts from men who have grown up in a toxic family,
or have had their family turn against them in their hour of need.
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in my case it was really both..
tough to see it when they smile at the holiday table..
but when my divorce began,
they ganged up on me with a list of things they didn’t like about me.
incredible.
no empathy, whatsoever.
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so as mgtower wrote, i began building the wall.
to keep these people out of my life as much as possible.
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when invited to a family function, i’m working and can’t make it..
or i have a meeting with my lawyer,
( to remind them i’m still going through a hell they can’t seem to understand ).
if i do show, i limit the exposure to about an hour, always with an excuse to leave early.
i don’t care much what they think anymore,
but it’s painful to deal with whenever necessary..
not too often anymore , as the wall grows higher..
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What strategies do YOU use to keep the toxic family away ?
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hope my ideas helped..
i’m looking for more strategies from you guys..Nowadays I find call blocking to be a handy item. They were lucky to have you, and now they don’t. I would start taking up new hobbies and making new friends. I know it’s a hard transition to make, but it’s a process. It takes time.
"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."
You have to say what’s on your mind. If they do not like it they have just lost the privilege to be in your life. I had to do this to a lot of friends.
What people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, then it slowly fades, leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. Your parents are gonna do it. Break the cycle. Rise above. Focus on science.
I hear yah Hitman.
I have a pretty good family but still sucked.
I was oldest boy and have 5 brothers. First in family ever to get divorced.
My daughter in laws didn’t want me around because I might poison their family, etc. Plus, they had to explain to their children why so and so was. Put them in a difficult position.
My one brother told me that every time he managed to convince his wife that I was really a decent person I’d do something to f~~~ it up.
Thanks bro.Was lucky to have my father’s private council.
He told me that what they thought about me wasn’t my business. He pushed me to understand to concentrate on me. Everything else is wind.Peace brothers
Hey buddy, my family is sickingly toxic. I even went so far as to move and change my phone number. I informed the family that I do get along with that I do not wish for them to tell them where I am.
Where are you at with your divorce? I’m still in the process of mine but it’s a long story.
Hello
if you like to read about a perfect “toxic family” then read my Red Pill text in my profile.
I had 3 borderline bitches and 2 whole villages of toxic housewives against me…
The only difference between my toxic family and all others were that our “internal showdowns” always went public. In all other toxic families these same conflicts were normally under cover of privacy. “Behind closed doors”
Later in my career I found out that 70-80 percent of families are more or less toxic and that is why it is so hard to find and emotionally healthy woman in every day life.
We boys and men notice and think about the “f~~~ed up things” that happen inside a family. And we can also work on ourselves to unload this learned “bad behavior”.But I now see and read that girls get BPD and NPD from traumatisation in toxic families.
The problem with BPD and NPD is that it can hardly be healed because patients of this type don’t see “that they have a problem”.
Ever wondered why a woman never sees a fault on her side, even if it is obvious?80 percent of families are more or less dysfunctional, releasing 80 percent of flakey chicks into the world. Flakey chicks will again breed flakey chicks.
A vicious cycle.Boys leave these families as battered creatures. Getting battered again by the flakey chick they marry…
Here is one of the best articles I ever read on that subject:
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Here is another thing about toxic families and why they almost always duplicate into the next generation:
I just posted in another forum topic this as an answer to the question if “marriage destroys lust”
After marriage a woman takes the place of your mother, with you becoming her oldest child.
Or why is it that many times the real mother will not let go of her son, trying to “bite away” any women “he brings home”. Why do mothers interfere so badly in the marriages of their sons?
Instead of just saying: Boy have fun… Or, I hope she is good in bed.
No, mothers don’t do that. They rather build up a “pussy connection” with his future wife to keep that son under her control. And the wife is seen as a competion. Mislead, incited, lied to… “Did you know that my son was always….”
Many marriages that I have seen “working out” were actually free from parents-in-law…
I can write a book about that.
Be serious: How can a female respect – and possibly love – her man if his own mother (with first rate credibility!) tells her all day how bad and stupid he is… The wife suddenly sees problems in him that she would not even have noticed without HIS mother telling her.
His mother’s narcisstic goal is: “Get my son back so he takes care of me when I’m old. So I will do everything to make his marriage a nightmare…”
I’ve seen this so many times and it’s one of the number one causes of divorces here in Germany.
Invaribly this field of tension will kill lust and sexual desire.
This will even bring a marriage with a unicorn to a fall.
But again: The source of this problem is the female nature and the compulsion to control.
In family terms:
BPD / NPD transferred to the daughter because she witnesses the complaining and blaming her mother does 24/7 about the “bad man she has”…
And that the man is always wrong and mother is always right…
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
People will use you for whatever you’re good for, then throw you in the garbage as soon as you’re no longer of use to them. Your family is no different. The only 2 family members I’ve been in contact with in the last 5 years have been my mom and my sister. I recently cut off contact with my sister, and my mom is next if she tries to pull any s~~~.
if i do show, i limit the exposure to about an hour, always with an excuse to leave early.
I just fell out of bed laughing about something I should not laugh about. But the phrase “limit the EXPOSURE” says it all.
Families are like poisonous chemcals or nuclear radiation.
The longer the “EXPOSURE” the greater the damage…
And the longer the recovery time…
Visiting relatives can be as “fantastic”, no – depressing as a trip to chernobyl, right?
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
I have nothing to do with any of my family except my grandmother and one 2nd cousin who i barely interact with. My stepfather and mother turned into c~~~s, brainwashed my brother and sister against me, they all disowned me and i was especially treated disgustingly when I was in adolescence.
My mother has been a c~~~ to me all her life, putting me down, running me down, and regrets having me with this loser she was married to for a short while in her early 20s. I’m the by product of her s~~~ mistakes.
And now i hear from my sons mother, my 1st ex, that she wants to ‘re-connect’ with me. Yeh, f~~~ off love. This bitch made her bed now she can lay in it.
All my relatives are the same. Sad losers who i have nothing in common with who all ignored me onm facebook back when i had an account. All a massive f~~~ing waste of time.
I’ve cut out all these losers. They add absolutely nothing to my life and I am so much better off without them.
The thing is that if you were raised in a dysfunctional family, that everything in your family that is dysfunctional, you would probably think it is normal. This would lead you to think that those bad relationships you would have later on in your life is also normal, because you would think that your relationships from your dysfunctional family is normal. This would lead to you to date very toxic women which would lead you to create another dysfunctional family that you would already get use to, because you were already use to the dysfunctional family you were raised up in. I am actually the living product of a dysfunctional family I was raised up, and if I did not get f~~~ed over the way I did many years ago, I would of been married to a very dysfunctional women right now and would do everything possible to be her servant to try to make her happy because I would not know any better.
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