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[GoodWomenAreUnicornsParticipant 9]

When a person equates being “nice” with being “strong”.

Analyzing 30 thousand irrelevant factors in a single decision becomes more efficient or even humane, than accepting mere reality saving the majority the pain and humility.

<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>It’s an old topic, I know. Let’s save a person or two closer to you from something awful that hurts many more in the process. </span>

As long as you’re protected from the fallout.

Ugh.

 

[constraints_theoryParticipant 43]

the cold calculus of war letting a city fall with a million people so that you can save a city with two million people.

in the end what ever decision you make regardless of how you came to your choice. you made it because it was the right choice at the time. of course you can argue what right or wrong is but im not going to start a philosophy discussion here lol.

two ways to look at it: either with rational and logical thought or with an emotionally driven rationale

either way i feel you cant avoid fallout there will always be a consequence for you decision just do whatever it is that must be done and be swift in executing it and then meet the next situation the same way.

 

I've killed worse than you on my way to real problems.

[GoodWomenAreUnicornsParticipant 9]

constraints_theory wrote:

two ways to look at it: either with rational and logical thought or with an emotionally driven rationale

That would be, my friend, why women should not rule. A women’s “hard decision” is quite different than a man’s.

Neither gender wants mass suffering. However real men somehow always can see past the immediate fallout, because he understands he can.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

I smell collectivist baloney about the “needs of the many” outweighing the “needs of the few”.

If one diverts a nuclear missile from a city of 2M to one of 1M, one murdered those of the latter city. If one fails to divert, the one who launched it is the murderer, not one’s self.

[GoodWomenAreUnicornsParticipant 9]

Cipher Highwind wrote:

If one diverts a nuclear missile from a city of 2M to one of 1M, one murdered those of the latter city. If one fails to divert, the one who launched it is the murderer, not one’s self.

Dude you’re always subject to the guilt and regret afterwards, and at that point it’s not even a question of origin. Just having the ability to make the decision of who deserves it more.

Ouch. Well, I’d have to defer to a male at the divergent switch. Personal preference i guess

[constraints_theoryParticipant 43]

so highwind if i understood your post (correct me if i am wrong) what you suggested is to essentially do nothing? so you will not have the blood of innocence lost on yourself? im not sure if thats what you meant but how it came off as to me.

deconstructing what you said a missile launched by one person on to city A will be seen as a murderer however. the judgement of one person to divert said missile to city B instead of having it hit City A would be the murderer instead of the one who launched it.

that is indeed an interesting thought…

i suppose i look at the numbers and it becomes a math problem trying to find the optimal solution instead of who is the actual blame… however neither scenario is good either city A or City B will be knocked off. i suppose it really comes down to who is more wrong the one who launched the missile or the individual that was forced to decide on if they should divert it or not. in either case i could see how it could be the “most” right decision at the time but a decision that was made with either rational logical thought or an emotionally driven rationale

 

I've killed worse than you on my way to real problems.

[GoodWomenAreUnicornsParticipant 9]

Well this has went beyond the original subject. Let me apologize that I’ve started a debate not relative to actual intent.

I was reflecting a common predicament where a man is at odds with feminist (e.g. emotional) rationale in effort to appease in the stead of reason, and stave off the negativity in favor of comfort.

It’s pretty sad and in history it has allowed  for countless atrocities.

For example: have you not heard that all of the world’s greatest structures and creations were not the pure ambition of a man, but to satiate or appease a woman?

That “behind every good man is a good woman”

Hence my user name.

This isn’t a question of whether to save a group, but how current gender roles would justify some behavior.

[constraints_theoryParticipant 43]

oh i wasnt trying to start a debate at all lol i was trying to understand what cipher was saying and perhaps went a little overboard.

but i kinda had a idea of what you were getting at and one cliche that we have all heard before all is fair in love and war.

you know there is a justification that can be found for everything under the sun and to  be conflicted with having to make a decision that can have significant impact to yourself or others around you is like being in the hot seat it makes some people very uncomfortable which makes some people to be eager to be followers and allowing others to think and decide for them instead of for themselves because its just easier. blind leading the blind, in the land of the blind the man with one eyes rules. haha i mean i think alot of these ideas simply come from people not really questioning and just blindly going with it because its “trendy” instead of being a trailblazer in questioning  everything. which i believe is the reason why for example feminist and feminist supporters and white knights and manginas and the such just go along with it because as i said “its trendy” and easier to just follow since most people around them are. they are drones! plugged into the overlord computing pi all damn day. because to them thats the “most right” decision to act in accordance to what they tell them to do and say.

like i said in my original post its not so much about the decision you make because in the end you will have to choose one its more about deciding which decision is “most right” at the specific moment when you made it and how you decide which is the most right though using either rational logical thought or an emotionally driven rational…

however just because it was the “most right” at the time doesnt make it the correct one… i mean there is no way of determining the correct decision so of course there will be others that will adamantly disagree with your decision… i mean geez we cant have four people in a room and not have sixteen different opinions thats why there are wars! lol because everybody believes they are doing right because they have justified it in their own mind somehow that this is the “most right” decision to make.

in the end does it really matter? your survival is in living, deciding and thinking for yourself not in understanding how gender roles can justify someones behavior, or how decisions are decided upon because its just a cycle that just continues.

my opinions of course 🙂

I've killed worse than you on my way to real problems.

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