Tom leykis about Chester suicide

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Who cares? Said Tom

Why do we care if someone suicide? We don’t know him, he don’t know us?
Why should I care?

AND HE IS F~~~ING RIGTH, CHESTER DIDNT GIVE A F~~~ ABOU ME.

He is dead… good for him, he is free at last, moving on.

Thank you tommmmm, do I sound cold?

That’s because I am, welcome to real world.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Carnage wrote:

Why should I care?

Because it’s humane. The topic of suicide inspires thought.

I only know that ONE song “hands up hands up… what you gonna do now? Back up back up….” and that’s all I know. I always thought it was irritating too. I didn’t even know his name until today.

Do I care that he committee suicide. Not really.
Do I care that he committee suicide. A little.

Suicide is a tough thing to contemplate. We all tend to think famous / rich / rockstars don’t have problems and we would want to be more like that. But they have big problems, obviously.

Carnage wrote:

Who cares? Said Tom

I think what Tom is alluding to is how people PRETEND to care – after he’s gone. They start gushing over them all over social media…. but they never wrote him a fan letter to tell him personally when he was alive. The outpouring is late.

The time to “care” was when he was alive.
If more people truly “cared” when it mattered most . . . he may not have done it.

RIP Chester.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 25]

yeah that’s a good point KM and thanks for clearing that up.

no one seems to care when a man is stopped from seeing his children, or being divorced raped or falsely accused and prosecuted etc.

it seems that the response from these people is more about trying to make themselves look like ‘nice caring people’, so they are more bothered about themselves than him

if they were trying to tackle the underlying issues and do something about the causes of high male suicide, I think they’d be more believable

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

it seems that the response from these people is more about trying to make themselves look like ‘nice caring people’, so they are more bothered about themselves than him

Right. That’s why I hate funerals. They go to BE SEEN by others. And they say s~~~ about you they never said to your face when you were alive. It’s quite infuriating. Especially in a suicide — when being seen “caring” would have meant more to him when he was alive.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Well no one gives a s~~~ about me, and I’m ok with that, I don’t care about anyone in exchange.

That’s really liberating.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[GregB0Participant]

KM and Mach,

Agreed. Society is hypocritical when it comes to our personal “15 minutes” of fame, we do not take the time to reach out when we can and when we should. We instead save our resources (time, opportunity and access) for when we are most visible to society.

The thought of peac~~~ tail feathers just came to mind, go figure.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Carnage wrote:

Well no one gives a s~~~ about me, and I’m ok with that, I don’t care about anyone in exchange.

I understand that attitude a bit. More of a “Han Solo” attitude, than a “Luke Skywalker”. But you know, Han did still did care a little bit – in the end.

So he was . . . . misunderstood.
But aren’t we all?

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[X11Spectator 4520]

Most people are so empty and devoid of passion these days that they trick themselves that they are feeling something. These public deaths give them licence to pretend they have feelings.

Don’t tell anyone….its all pretend, everything. Our blood has been replaced by a synthetic version.

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

I really don’t know too much about this singer but then I saw his bio 6 kids and 2 wives. Divorced from the first one. Then I was like ah ok now it makes sense.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

kbbroiler wrote:

I really don’t know too much about this singer but then I saw his bio 6 kids and 2 wives. Divorced from the first one. Then I was like ah ok now it makes sense.

🤔 Plus, drugs, alcohol and rape in childhood.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Cú ChulainnParticipant 3910]

To me its just compassion for another brother, feeling he can’t cope and has no way out. Unlike women, who attention seek, and pretend to kill themselves, most men take themselves off quietly and complete the task. He didn’t do it for Facebook eulogies, he did it because, for whatever reason(s), life was more painful than death for him.

Why should I care? I didn’t know him, but I’ve listened to him for nearly 20 years, and his voice and songs meant something to me, he entertained me. Linkin Park were a soundtrack to my life, among others. Also, he had a tough life before fame, and he was likable in documentaries and interviews, grounded. On stage he was one of a kind.

I came close to where he went too, I drank before the attempt, that’s what saved me, I was too drunk to do the job properly. I gave it a damn good go though, and only my parents and doctor know about it, and now the anonymous here on the MGTOW forum. Maybe I drank the bottles so I couldn’t do it properly, I don’t know, like subconsciously I didn’t want to go. But at that time life was so bad I didn’t want to go on living. It has changed me, no question, and I think about death and the absurdity of life quite a lot because of it.

Death has no fear for me now. I’m over feeling suicidal, but if I dropped dead tomorrow, I wouldn’t care, if I took a long illness and died I wouldn’t care. Life isn’t precious, it just is. It goes on with our without you. If I had succeeded to kill myself, I would have only passed my pain onto my aging parents, thats what brought me back, and my therapist explained that to me. Therapy and drugs got me through it. I no longer need therapy, but the course of drugs I have to keep on for a long time yet; the pain doesn’t go away, you just learn to cope with it.

But now male suicide is a topic that I take very seriously, and when a guy like Chester completes it, it brings back my experiences, and it’s ANOTHER MAN, rich or poor, who’s suffered and died.

Suicide is the number one killer of young men in the UK, I’m sure its a similar situation in the US. Its a huge societal problem, but f~~~ it, its only men, who gives a f~~~ right?
If it was women dying at the same rate by suicide there would be campaigns, government task forces set up etc. Celebrities talking to camera with their best sad faces on.But its only men, who are disposable to start with. Who cares when someone like Chester Bennington dies?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Cú Chulainn wrote:

I’ve listened to him for nearly 20 years, and his voice and songs meant something to me, he entertained me. Linkin Park were a soundtrack to my lufe, aming ithers. Also, he had a tough life before fame, and he was likable in documentaries and interviews, grounded. On stage he was one of a kind.

Really. I’m now almost embarrassed to say I knew so little about him. To me, Linkin Park was “noise”, but then again I couldn’t abide Marylin Manson…. until I heard him speak once. That’s what I meant by “misunderstood”.

Appreciated your post.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8288]

I called a suicide hotline about 10 times when I was in my 20s. I felt like I couldn’t function properly in this world for many years. When I advanced to my 30s, those feelings faded away. For me, TIME & EXPERIENCE helped me adjust to the stress of daily life.

Sometimes I look back on those years and I think to myself, “Well, at least your parents paid for college.” In other words, the problems I had then would be much easier for me to deal with now.

I don’t know who Chester was, but I do feel sympathy for any fellow human being who is silently suffering from depression and suicidal thoughts. Maybe people wouldn’t kill themselves if they could discover a solution to a problem or a way to get rid of the feeling of hopelessness.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Hey we don’t work in this society at all.

That why we are here.

MGTOW is starting to sound like the f~~~ it all ultimate misfit.

Like the offspring guys said: “s~~~ is f~~~ed up”

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Jim01Participant 6678]

Cú Chulainn wrote:

To me its just compassion for another brother, feeling he can’t cope and has no way out. Unlike women, who attention seek, and pretend to kill themselves, most men take themselves off quietly and complete the task. He didn’t do it for Facebook eulogies, he did it because, for whatever reason(s), life was more painful than death for him.

Why should I care? I didn’t know him, but I’ve listened to him for nearly 20 years, and his voice and songs meant something to me, he entertained me. Linkin Park were a soundtrack to my life, among others. Also, he had a tough life before fame, and he was likable in documentaries and interviews, grounded. On stage he was one of a kind.

I came close to where he went too, I drank before the attempt, that’s what saved me, I was too drunk to do the job properly. I gave it a damn good go though, and only my parents and doctor know about it, and now the anonymous here on the MGTOW forum. Maybe I drank the bottles so I couldn’t do it properly, I don’t know, like subconsciously I didn’t want to go. But at that time life was so bad I didn’t want to go on living. It has changed me, no question, and I think about death and the absurdity of life quite a lot because of it.

Death has no fear for me now. I’m over feeling suicidal, but if I dropped dead tomorrow, I wouldn’t care, if I took a long illness and died I wouldn’t care. Life isn’t precious, it just is. It goes on with our without you. If I had succeeded to kill myself, I would have only passed my pain onto my aging parents, thats what brought me back, and my therapist explained that to me. Therapy and drugs got me through it. I no longer need therapy, but the course of drugs I have to keep on for a long time yet; the pain doesn’t go away, you just learn to cope with it.

But now male suicide is a topic that I take very seriously, and when a guy like Chester completes it, it brings back my experiences, and it’s ANOTHER MAN, rich or poor, who’s suffered and died.

Suicide is the number one killer of young men in the UK, I’m sure its a similar situation in the US. Its a huge societal problem, but f~~~ it, its only men, who gives a f~~~ right?
If it was women dying at the same rate by suicide there would be campaigns, government task forces set up etc. Celebrities talking to camera with their best sad faces on.But its only men, who are disposable to start with. Who cares when someone like Chester Bennington dies?

glad you pointed that out. The amount of women who “cry for help” is f~~~ing pathetic

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/15/british-backpacker-accidentallykilled-row-boyfriend/

this dumb bitch “accidently” hanged herself when she was going to do a non-committal suicide to get back at her boyfriend, but f~~~ed it up and actually killed herself. How sick in the head do you have to be to do that?

The more you look into their actions, the more you realise they aren’t the “fairer sex” at all but narcissistic f~~~ers. They manage to trivialise even something as big as suicide by “pretending” to do it

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

I have to take a humane approach to this for multiple reasons.

1. Male suicide is a big problem, stats show women attempt suicide as much or more than men, HOWEVER … men actually kill themselves when they attempt it, usually when a man tries to take his life it’s not for drama or attention, it’s because the emotional pain is too deep, and they know society doesn’t give a s~~~ about mens mental health.

2. I didn’t know chester, but the music on the first album was helpful in giving me something to relate to, and ultimately helped me get through tough times.

I don’t pretend to care about people i never met, but i think we need to take a look at mens mental health issues, it’s sad that the only time society takes a mans mental health serious is when a male celebrity kills himself, or one of them goes postal, and how convenient, then society can continue to say that “white males” and “socially awkward lone wolf males” are to blame.

[~BSParticipant 3266]

I did like the music they made in the early 2000s not so much now. Still I can’t say that I’m personally affected by his death other than missing out on new music.

Death of famous people just highlights problems and issues that face “normal” people daily. So we should care in the sense that society is messed up enough that people are considering (and successfully) offing themselves because they feel that’s a better option than living. We notice it more when famous people do it than when Joe from nowheresville does it.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[Anonymous 12]

Cú Chulainn wrote:

Why should I care? I didn’t know him, but I’ve listened to him for nearly 20 years, and his voice and songs meant something to me, he entertained me. Linkin Park were a soundtrack to my life, among others. Also, he had a tough life before fame, and he was likable in documentaries and interviews, grounded. On stage he was one of a kind.

Indeed.
I am grateful for their work, and purchased some of what they produced.
Therefor, without making a big fuss, i acknowledge his and his Teammates’ actions.
They greased the gears that led me to become the guy i am today.

In a sense, talking about hios death is a form of acknowledgement.
Acknowledging the ones that were part of your life in some way is important.
Do not forget where you come from – even if it is “just” a cultural element.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Keymaster wrote:

Cu Chulainn wrote:

I’ve listened to him for nearly 20 years, and his voice and songs meant something to me, he entertained me. Linkin Park were a soundtrack to my lufe, aming ithers. Also, he had a tough life before fame, and he was likable in documentaries and interviews, grounded. On stage he was one of a kind.

Really. I’m now almost embarrassed to say I knew so little about him. To me, Linkin Park was “noise”, but then again I couldn’t abide Marylin Manson…. until I heard him speak once. That’s what I meant by “misunderstood”.

Appreciated your post.

Manson is a really smart guy and I’ve been a fan of the music since I was 14 or so. Yeah, typical age for someone to become a fan of “the antichrist”, hehe.

I’ve never really listened to Linkin Park and I simply shrugged when I read that he killed himself, as he had zero impact on my life.

Now, I would feel like crap if one of the guys of Iron Maiden would do such a thing to themselves, or crash with their big ass plane or something, because they’re my life-long favorite band and they’re all very likable, especially Steve Harris.

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[X11Spectator 4520]

Manson”s music is pretty conventional. He has to work hard to be controversial and gain media attentiin but its all just cheesy performance art.

The guy just seems like a f~~gy dork.

He can speak coherently tho.

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