to have reproduce or not

[BobbyParticipant 140]

I am not currently living with my girlfriend and, obviously, my life is much more peaceful.

My girlfriend moved to a foreign country to work. She earns a decent enough salary there. I travel out there to live with her some of the time. The cost of travelling there and back, along with increased living expenses out there, are too large for my current levels of wealth. Before I met her I could save money every month. I have a decent level of savings, but living out there with her really strips my current bank accounts to hardly anything.

Anyway she pointed out that our families own a few homes and if we have children, they would inherit them. Well at the worst, the child would inherit one and half properties. At the best maybe three, depending on how thrifty and sharing other childless couples in our family are.

I never even thought of having children before. I somehow suspect having children will be a _very_ bad idea.

When I grew up I lived in a populated major city. I went to a government funded school. By the time I was a teenager I realized most of the teachers were rubbish and that the school’s academic examinations results were well below average. So I purchased the examination board syllabuses and various textbooks myself. I studied the books myself. I guess this was just the way I was. I never did this to prove anything. My school entered me for a place at the top university in the country. Despite this the teachers were inept and went out of their way to stop me getting in! The university I applied to publically stated they want more students from poor schools, but in reality this meant nothing for me. They even set me examination papers my school didn’t teach and were different to my examination board syllabuses. I really think that the academics at this university have no clue what it is like to go to a bad school.

Well in the end I got a place at the top university in the country and attended it for many years. I got in not because I worked hard or was clever, but in reality I got in *by accident* and through the cracks in the system.

Throughout my life I have found that having connections or money makes everything easier. The system is rigged at every level.

I have a decent enough life at the moment and technology today is wonderful. But the system is rigged. Companies don’t care about their employees. The price of housing goes up and up. Taxes go up and up. Our country has potentially huge taxes that are not even proportional to income. The newspapers complain about these taxes every few years and the politicans promise to fix the system, but in the end the fixes are slow and only good for a handful of years. If the taxes weren’t so high and variable, then I might even think about having children and using my savings for that. But no, my savings have to be kept to pay off the government and their taxes that do not depend on income.

Why should I have children, if everything is easier if you are rich and I am not rich?

Today if I have children, there will be no free university as in my day. The healthcare system is going to the dogs.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6406]

Personally, I never wanted children .. but that’s just me .. I can’t imagine two people on this planet with my traits and genetic make-up.

In my life I have known of several couples who, when married and following a more traditional route stated that they weren’t having kids. But .. not long after in each case .. all that changed

.. the woman gets what is universally known as “Baby Rabies” at some point and the guy is put through a living hell if he doesn’t go along with the program.
I do believe “all” women get this affliction.

.. baby rabies is just another reason .. among the hundreds or even thousands .. why my own personal existence is so much better avoiding the awalt altogether. I don’t want to re-live life all over again through any offspring. It’s just too complicated to imagine .. the legalities, the obstacles and the unexpected hurdles.

For those who want kids .. I wish them every good support and a happy existence. Everyone is different. I just don’t want my traits or genetics passed to another .. and can’t take on that responsibility without great duress and personal anxiety. I was meant to live alone. I see no real defense against Baby Rabies in an arsenal, it will happen .. and therefore will never personally put myself in that situation. The only conceivable defense is the offense of .. total lifelong awalt avoidance. All .. relationship avoidance. Life is good ….

have great day

[SolidParticipant 7520]

– Dont have children
– Dump the bitch
– Get a vasectomy
– Read this forum

Do those tasks and find you freedom.

hmskl’d wrote:

the woman gets what is universally known as “Baby Rabies” at some point and the guy is put through a living hell if he doesn’t go along with the program.

I remember when I was young and I start noticing/asking about how did my older friends at work become fathers, ALL OF THEM, no exception, “was an accident, she was on the pill”…

I’ve met very few guys who planned being fathers, for the vast majority it “happened”… We all know, AWALT, they try to lock their man, since most of them were unmarried when that happened.

[Anonymous 1]

I agree the system is rigged. Real Wages have failed to keep up with inflation rates. We are making far less now than our peers of the 1970’s.

We have more electronics and entertainment giving us the illusion of an improved standard of living. In reality, we have far less cash to spend. We have less wealth and more debt.

In my youth I had always figured I would meet a woman and have a big traditional family. When I say traditional I mean like borderline Amish. Big family, big farm. Wife and Children all working together in harmony. Lol.

Feminism killed that dream. I learned very quick that my American Dream is dead and rotten. This is not the same country that my Grandfathers fought for in WWII.

MGTOW is the only way.

[Anonymous 43]

For the love of God, NO!

the regrets will crush you.

[MonkParticipant 16979]

Bobby wrote:

[quote]The cost of travelling there and back, along with increased living expenses out there, are too large for my current levels of wealth. Before I met her I could save money every month. I have a decent level of savings, but living out there with her really strips my current bank accounts to hardly anything.

And you are saying that your life is ‘peaceful’? Effectively working for nothing doesn’t strike me as a good strategy for the future, either.

Anyway she pointed out that our families own a few homes and if we have children, they would inherit them. Well at the worst, the child would inherit one and half properties. At the best maybe three, depending on how thrifty and sharing other childless couples in our family are.

So she has already assessed your and her families assets and how it will all end up with you and her (meaning her, when she divorce rapes you).

She is a Grade A predator. You’ve had your warning. Dump her. Fast.

[Anonymous 43]

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22508]

hmskl’d wrote:

Personally, I never wanted children .. but that’s just me .. I can’t imagine two people on this planet with my traits and genetic make-up.

In my life I have known of several couples who, when married and following a more traditional route stated that they weren’t having kids. But .. not long after in each case .. all that changed

.. the woman gets what is universally known as “Baby Rabies” at some point and the guy is put through a living hell if he doesn’t go along with the program.
I do believe “all” women get this affliction.

.. baby rabies is just another reason .. among the hundreds or even thousands .. why my own personal existence is so much better avoiding the awalt altogether. I don’t want to re-live life all over again through any offspring. It’s just too complicated to imagine .. the legalities, the obstacles and the unexpected hurdles.

For those who want kids .. I wish them every good support and a happy existence. Everyone is different. I just don’t want my traits or genetics passed to another .. and can’t take on that responsibility without great duress and personal anxiety. I was meant to live alone. I see no real defense against Baby Rabies in an arsenal, it will happen .. and therefore will never personally put myself in that situation. The only conceivable defense is the offense of .. total lifelong awalt avoidance. All .. relationship avoidance. Life is good ….

have great day

There can be an alternative. Pets. But the woman has to have an accepting mindset.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[experiencedParticipant]

Dump her now.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

You should not walk away and let her hanging, YOU SHOULD RUN.

Run till you find signs in russian.

Inheritance? That is the most stupid reason to bring a child to a life of slavery.

For the love of matrix, read his intro, read, read and run.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[BobbyParticipant 140]

For the love of matrix, read his intro, read, read and run.

Can you be more specific with the location of this introduction?

[Anonymous 43]

Briffaults law. The decision to reproduce has already been made. You haven’t had the “accident” yet.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Bobby wrote:

For the love of matrix, read his intro, read, read and run.

Can you be more specific with the location of this introduction?

Must be in his profile, also I think DDJ did a video on his history.

Or as the guy directly.

Read any intro of any idiot in here, becouse we where all (most of us) idiots who got used, abused and thrown out like garbage… or sended to jail like matrix.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[AttonParticipant]

Anyway she pointed out that our families own a few homes and if we have children, they would inherit them

Likely to stop using birth control, baby trap in the making.

If the taxes weren’t so high and variable, then I might even think about having children and using my savings for that.

If this is your primary concern in-regards to having children. They you are very poorly educated on the issues of family law and you should do a whole lot more reading.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[KevinStylesParticipant 2580]

I’m firmly on teh side of not reproducing. If you think women hit your wallet hard, it’s nothing compared to a kid. Then you have to deal with all the school public school bulls~~~, sacrifice all your free time to them, deal with trying to keep them on the straight and narrow. When they become teens they become raging assholes. For me personally there is zero plus side to having and raising a kid, and perhaps the biggest negative is you need a woman to do it and you will need to have a 20+ year relationship of some kind with that woman and if you’re not together she’s just going to manipulate and turn your kid against you. Ya, nothing ‘good’ here, pass on it just like getting involved with a woman.

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