This has been fun to watch

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/zinke-says-environmental-terrorist-groups-enabled-wildfires-n901481

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke says ‘environmental terrorist groups’ enabled wildfires
Environmental groups pushed back on the interior secretary’s claim that they are to blame.

———If you are kept from proper management of the forest and undergrowth, then not allowed to clear cut to stop the fire from spreading, you ARE responsible for the fire.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

I’m a wildland firefighter, working for the US Forest Service for the last 9 years.

I can confirm that the lack of logging and debris removal are HUGE factors in the growth of wildfire we are seeing today.

There have always been wildfires… it’s a natural part of the ecosystem of the western US. Anyone who says otherwise is talking out his ass. Even Lewis and Clark wrote about the wildfires they witnessed in the mountains of western Montana when they passed through, 200 years ago. Wildfire has always been a necessary fact of life in the semi-arid parts of the west, and it should not be messed with. Global warming has nothing to do with it.

Bad forest management policies (including overzealous suppression of all wildfires many decades ago) as well as environmentalist blocking of good management policies has created the mess we are in, with wildfires being way more destructive than they have ever been before.

Don’t expect things to change soon. It took many decades for the pendulum to swing this far. It will take decades to swing back to a neutral state. In the meantime, look forward to devastating wildfires for another twenty or more years. Sorry.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3763]

Silver Fox wrote:

I’m a wildland firefighter, working for the US Forest Service for the last 9 years.

Hats off to you, brother.

And yes, wildfires, floods and tornadoes all existed before humans and will exist way after us. People think that the piece of land they own is suddenly the center of the universe. Nope.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Silver Fox wrote:

I’m a wildland firefighter, working for the US Forest Service for the last 9 years.

REALLY.

( Fascinating. What an honor. )

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Quit your job, let everything burn to the groud, lets drink a beer while we watch hell get lose.

Beautifull sight.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Blood AxeParticipant 1179]

Some pines depend on forest fires.

Back off Barbie!

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

Carnage wrote:

Quit your job, let everything burn to the groud,

Most of us in firefighting have no delusions about “saving the forest”… We know that we are just a tiny influence trying to cope with a huge force of nature. The reality is that wildland firefighters can only really “control” a wildfire in the mildest, bottom 10% of its potential power. Once the fires really get going into the huge storms, there is nothing we can do.

I’m in this job because I’m pretty good at it and because it’s a way to make money. Saving somebody’s home (occasionally) and helping preserve some areas of healthy forest (yes, healthy forests do exist here and there) are a couple side benefits. But yes… many unhealthy forests simply need to burn and start over.

There are definitely times I question why I’m still in this… Usually on the most grueling days. It’s hard to keep up morale when you’ve been working 14 straight days in a row, 16 hours or more each day, hiking all over the mountainside and carrying 50-70lbs of gear… with no showers and sleeping on the ground at night.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

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