There can never be equality or egalatarianism

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

Because
(1.) the system is not going to change
(2.) because women’s genetically programmed sets of behaviors such as Hypergamy will insure that they game the system
(3.) Because statistically women invariably vote for politicians who will create entitlement programs especially programs that favor and are mostly designed for: women.

In order to have a more stable society with lower crime rates and out of wedlock births. The vote needs to be removed from women, and women need to be prohibited from attending Universities and need to have restrictions placed on their ability to work and own property. And welfare programs need to be eliminated.

In essence women’s rights need to be restricted in order to have a stable society.

When this is done: a woman’s natural hypergamous instincts would ensure that even men who are the working poor would be able to attract women.

But this will never happen.

Laws and societal structures that do not take into account evolutionary psychology inevitably have instabilities: leading to high crime rates.

In the US and in much of the modernized world: the proverbial genie is out of the bottle. And short of and End of the World Event: it’s just never going to reverse course.

What will happen is this:
(a.) there will always be a supply of chads who will bang 80% of all women
(b.) there will always be a pool of White Knights/Manginas who will have swallowed the lie and chase women. These men are the Beta Providers. Without these men: most women would have very little money. These men will get ass raped by the system (typically about twice on average). After the failure of their second marriage these guys wake up and realize that something isn’t quite right. Some of these guys will gravitate towards MGTOW.

The Millenial Men obviously will populate both groups. But a smaller percentage of them will fit into group (a.) and a smaller group will fit into group (b.). (Unlike the Boomer Generation)

The majority of MGTOW will be comprised of Millennial Beta Males. For us Boomers: the internet came too late in our lives to have saved a large portion of us from getting ass raped by the system. For the X’er’s: the first cohort (born between 1965-1975)…they will mostly get ass raped once.

As for interest in MGTOW: I think a lot of it is coming from 40 year old Generation X’ers who got screwed over in Family Court…as well as Millenial Men in their 30’s who were ignored by Cupcake during their 20’s…have seen Cupcake get baby rabies and start to hit the wall…and noticed something very wrong.

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

Why are women so threatened by MGTOW? Because it means NO MEAL TICKET. It means they can’t take the easy way anymore. It means they have to study a real subject in school, and they have to get a well paying job: all of which is difficult and requires: WORK.

As more men wake up….and the supply of men willing to marry dries up…these women if they want kids…will have to support a kid without any help from any man. And kids are expensive. (but honestly…I think the real reason why most women want kids is because it is a guaranteed source of tax free income via child support). Income in which they can spend it anyway they want.

[experiencedParticipant]

There’s hope in the fact that men double down their efforts and get stuff done.
Women on the other hand, are f~~~ing up their studying of men – the easier road for them is delusion and they’re pursuing it quite earnestly.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

If you remove the top 0.1% of men from the calculations, the so-called wage gap disappears and may in fact end up in women’s favour… not they will be happy about it as it will mean that all those career women will have no-one who meets their standards and even if they do find any guys, those guys with not be interested in them.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

Men and women will never be treated as equals, but that’s not altogether a bad thing. In my view they shouldn’t be. Because they’re not equals. Fact. I’m tired of the stupid “Women can do whatever men can do” slogan, which is getting more and more desperate by the day, because it’s not true. There are some things that women can do just as well, but not all. To keep labouring the perception that they’re “equal to men in every way” is a delusional and very dangerous perception. As we’ve already seen several times over, it can lead to all sorts of trouble.

Moreover, equality would only happen if women agreed to act as equals, which they never do. They only like equality when it’s convenient. You need only look at the draft issue for clarification on that point. If women are equal, fine. But in that case, if I’m trapped in a burning building and have passed out from smoke inhalation, I want the female firefighter to carry me to safety. Equal pay? Equal work.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

RealityBites wrote:

In order to have a more stable society with lower crime rates and out of wedlock births. The vote needs to be removed from women,

That’s a flawed reasoning based on a feminist lie.
There never had been a society where 100% men voted and 0% women voted.
In the old society 0% women voted and just only 10-20% men voted.
Men got universal suffrage first in exchange for military service.
Women got universal suffrage shortly after men (in Canada they got it at the very same time of men), usually about 10 years after men, WITHOUT THE NEED OF BEING DRAFTED.

RealityBites wrote:

and women need to be prohibited from attending Universities

Culture is quite inefficient at making women more civilized and responsible.
Lack of culture, on the other hand, would be even worse.

RealityBites wrote:

and need to have restrictions placed on their ability to work and own property. And welfare programs need to be eliminated.

In essence women’s rights need to be restricted in order to have a stable society.

When this is done: a woman’s natural hypergamous instincts would ensure that even men who are the working poor would be able to attract women.

So, do you want to support a woman?
Go for it: there are plenty women who crave for your wallet, even now, without the need of such “reforms”.

Society shouldn’t be engineered in order to make inferior males able to get laid: inferior males reproducing too much cause degeneration.

RealityBites wrote:

What will happen is this:
(a.) there will always be a supply of chads who will bang 80% of all women
(b.) there will always be a pool of White Knights/Manginas who will have swallowed the lie and chase women. These men are the Beta Providers. Without these men: most women would have very little money. These men will get ass raped by the system (typically about twice on average). After the failure of their second marriage these guys wake up and realize that something isn’t quite right. Some of these guys will gravitate towards MGTOW.

Just to add a detail:
Women are now 60% earned degrees and the gap is keeping widening.
With women’s economical empowerment betas will be less and lesser able to get laid using their wallet.
The “reforms” you just asked are meant for giving more chances to those betas: more chances of being providers and getting laid by being providers.
MGTOW is about NOT being providers.

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[Anonymous 0]

That convention in Istanbul sucks.

Chapter 1, Article 3, b.:
“domestic violence” shall mean all acts of physical, sexual, psychological or economic violence that occur within the family or domestic unit or between former or current spouses or partners, whether or not the perpetrator shares or has shared the same residence with the victim;

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