The Victim Game

[felixParticipant 406]

I am probably going to step on some toes here, BUT this business of thinking that people using the ‘Victim Strategy’ is a current phenomena requires a total ignorance of human history.  Hitler used it to fire up the Nazis.  Japan used it to justify bombing Pearl Harbor.  We used it to justify nuking them.  Christianity is rife with “We Are The Victims”; remember that they were chased into the desert, the Romans feed them to lions, Jesus was crucified.  Consider all of the things done in name of religion.  When this country issued it’s Declaration of Independence it contained a list of things England was doing unfairly to the colonies.

The idea that minority groups would use this is to be expected.  It is a historically proven strategy to justify one’s actions and/or eliminate guilt.

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[chirParticipant]

The victim game has been around as long as there have been humans.  It took feminists and SJW’s to bring it to the current state of perfect victim-hood.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[felixParticipant 406]

chir wrote:

the current state of perfect victim-hood.

You know chir, I actually understand your point of view.  Thanks for that.

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[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

My niece hit my car with my dad’s car. She and her side of the family are always the victims. When she did it; she said “That the car was parked behind me” it was not; and took no responsibility but was the victim none the less.

I am the black sheep because I do not put up with the geocentric BS; good thing that my dad supports me in his own odd way or I would go ape-s~~~.

[WolfParticipant 890]

You’re right – the “victim game” is nothing new. And the feminists – and everyday women – have it mastered. Being the victim is empowering in an altruistic society. Many may not even realize how empowering it is – seems to come naturally to them without any conscious thought.

[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

That is true.

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

This is a key ingredient in controlling people. To expect intelligent people with either good or bad intentions whether knowingly or unknowing to not use victim mentality is impossible. Its clearly defined in a lot of works including Machiavelli and is Law 27 of the 48 laws of power to name two.

In many ways most MGTOW view ourselves as victims of feminism. Its just one of those things in life that is not pointed out a lot because those who use it intentionally don’t want it to be know.

Is it wrong or right that’s up the individual. I view it as an inevitability that I would like to teach men who don’t know what it is about. So they do not fall victim to victim manipulation. What they do after that is up to them

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[WolfParticipant 890]

Durden wrote:

In many ways most MGTOW view ourselves as victims of feminism. Its just one of those things in life that is not pointed out a lot because those who use it intentionally don’t want it to be know.

I agree. We are victims – or strive not to become victims – of feminism. I’m sure that opinions on this will vary, but ultimately we go our own way due to being treated unfairly (or to avoid being treated unfairly), which is a “victim” in the power dynamic.

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