Home › Forums › Political Corner › The US Government passes the CLOUD Act
This topic contains 15 replies, has 10 voices, and was last updated by
Y_ 1 year, 10 months ago.
- AuthorPosts
The US Government passes the CLOUD Act [1]
Carey Wedler, AntiMedia
26th March 2018While the nation remained fixated on gun control and Facebook’s violative practices last week, the U.S. government quietly codified the CLOUD Act, its own intrusive policies on citizens’ data.

While the massive, $1.2 trillion omnibus spending bill passed Friday received widespread media attention, the CLOUD Act — which lawmakers snuck into the end of the 2,300-page bill — was hardly addressed.
The Clarifying Lawful Overseas Use of Data Act (CLOUD) “updates the rules for criminal investigators who want to see emails, documents and other communications stored on the internet,” CNET reported.
“Now law enforcement won’t be blocked from accessing someone’s Outlook account, for example, just because Microsoft happens to store the user’s email on servers in Ireland.”
The CLOUD Act will also allow the U.S. to enter into agreements that allow the transfer of private data from domestic servers to investigators in other countries on a case-by-case basis, further globalizing the ever-encroaching surveillance state.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation, which has strongly opposed the legislation, listed several consequences of the bill, which it called “far-reaching” and “privacy-upending”
-Enable foreign police to collect and wiretap people’s communications from U.S. companies, without obtaining a U.S. warrant.
-Allow foreign nations to demand personal data stored in the United States, without prior review by a judge.
-Allow the U.S. president to enter “executive agreements” that empower police in foreign nations that have weaker privacy laws than the United States to seize data in the United States while ignoring U.S. privacy laws.
-Allow foreign police to collect someone’s data without notifying them about it.-Empower U.S. police to grab any data, regardless if it’s a U.S. person’s or not, no matter where it is stored.
The bill is an update to the current MLAT (Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty), the current framework for sharing internet user data between countries, which both legislators and tech companies have criticized as inefficient.
Some tech companies, like Microsoft, have endorsed the new CLOUD policy. Brad Smith, the company’s president and chief legal officer, called it “a strong statute and a good compromise,” that “gives tech companies like Microsoft the ability to stand up for the privacy rights of our customers around the world.”
They echoed the sentiment of lawmakers like Orrin Hatch (R-UT). In February, he said of the bill:
“The CLOUD Act bridges the divide that sometimes exists between law enforcement and the tech sector by giving law enforcement the tools it needs to access data throughout the world while at the same time creating a commonsense framework to encourage international cooperation to resolve conflicts of law
But one of the biggest complaints from privacy advocates, however, it that the new legislation places too much unmitigated power in the hands of governments with abysmal human rights records while also giving too much discretion to the U.S. government’s executive branch.
Noting that the executive branch will decide which countries are human rights compliant and that those countries will then be able to engage in data collection and wiretaps without any further restrictions or oversight, the ACLU warned
“Flip through Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch’s recent annual reports, and you can find a dizzying array of countries that have ratified major human rights treaties and reflect those obligations in their domestic laws but, in fact, have arrested, tortured and killed people in retaliation for their activism or due to their identity.
The organization pointed out that no human rights organizations have endorsed the CLOUD Act, adding that “in the case of countries certified by the executive branch, the CLOUD Act would not require the U.S. government to scrutinize data requests by the foreign governments — indeed, the bill would not even require notifying the U.S. government or a user regarding a request.”
Further, the ACLU says, if a foreign government’s human rights record deteriorates, there is no mechanism to revoke its access to data.
Considering the U.S.’ existing record on supporting regimes that severely restrict basic rights like freedom of expression, the expanded access the CLOUD Act provides is undoubtedly worrisome.
Also predictable is the government’s stale justification for expanding its power. As the CLOUD Act claims, it is purportedly to “protect public safety and combat serious crime, including terrorism” — even if it further empowers governments that support and commit said terrorism.
In an age where the government already engages in mass surveillance and is eager to disable the people’s efforts to protect their privacy through encryption technology, it is unsurprising, albeit dangerous, that Congress continues to encroach on what little is left of safeguards against unwarranted intrusions.
[Regardless of the pompous bleating of the ACLU and similar on ‘foreign governments with questionable records’, the fact remains this is just one more way of data collection by the CIA/NSA/(insert your favourite acronym here) on anyone and everyone without need for due process. – Y]
Citation
[1] http://theantimedia.com/us-government-privacy-cloud-act/What could possibly go wrong. /sigh/
Signing that Bill cost President Trump a lot of support.
Another law by government in attempt to legitimatize what government is already doing. If something was done about this, it will be through courts or ballot box, which those whom are doing the snooping have been shown to ignore.
But such laws do not stop foreign nations from gaining such information, even the information of those within government.

Anonymous14Also predictable is the government’s stale justification for expanding its power. As the CLOUD Act claims, it is purportedly to “protect public safety and combat serious crime, including terrorism” — even if it further empowers governments that support and commit said terrorism.
If that were the case the U.S. Government from top to bottom needs to be prosecuted for aiding and abetting terrorism, supporting ISIS in Syria is just one example, there are many more.
I think there are two points here: (Briefly)
1. The notion this sacrifice of privacy is intended to combat terrorism is absolute nonsense. As THX pointed out the US under Bush II and Obama authored, armed and protected ISIS.
2. Why would the US government not care if foreign nations gain information on US citizens that that the US could not gain without a warrant? For precisely that reason—they can gain information back from the same foreign governments without a warrant. So it is a convenient means to bybass constitutional protections.

Anonymous141. The notion this sacrifice of privacy is intended to combat terrorism is absolute nonsense. As THX pointed out the US under Bush II and Obama authored, armed and protected ISIS.
Trump has not deviated one bit from this linear agenda that has been in place since 2001. More troops to Afghanistan, and “Get ISIS and get out” In Syria seems to be a lie as well. His entire campaign rhetoric has done a 180 in practice once in office, just like Obama. The Russians took care of ISIS in Syria as we were apparently unable to get that job done, and yet we are still there. Nothing has changed anywhere.
Insert next lame excuse here-
Well you are preaching to the choir; I never supported the invasion or occupation of Afghanistan. As I see it the only reason we are there is to insure the continued massive production of illegal drugs to finance “black” projects within our government by keeping the money off the books. And have a military “base” of operations to project power in the direction of the new silk road the Chinese are working on.

Anonymous42The framework for skynet is upon us!

I can’t see the problem, fbi can read my mail anytime.
I hope they check my internet history
Muahahaha
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

Anonymous14Well you are preaching to the choir; I never supported the invasion or occupation of Afghanistan. As I see it the only reason we are there is to insure the continued massive production of illegal drugs to finance “black” projects within our government by keeping the money off the books. And have a military “base” of operations to project power in the direction of the new silk road the Chinese are working on.
Agreed, that is part of why we are there, however I notice you make no mention of Syria where we have been supporting ISIS and fueling a civil war resulting in the deaths of over 400k people and rising.
I stopped using other people’s ‘cloud’ servers and am hosing my own in my residence with many layers of security so there’s no one for them to subpoena for my content except ME. They can’t be sneaky about it and tell microsoft or google or whoever to hand over my data without my consent because they don’t have it to give. Been doing this since the whole Snowden thing blew up. It’s really easy to do this kind of stuff today even non-nerds can figure it out.
Does this act had anything to do with the case US vs Microsoft? Argued in US supreme court on Feb 27, 2018
Does this act had anything to do with the case US vs Microsoft? Argued in US supreme court on Feb 27, 2018
I believe this new law will enforce Microsoft or any other provider to disclose information without subpoenas or due process – regardless what prior laws are in place.
Part of the argument in the audio I think had to to do with defining conventional terms on privacy and what was applicable to MS. This new law will overcome those restrictions / definitions.
I just found it weird that Microsoft was arguing against it and now they bend over. Besides I don’t think a final decision had been made yet, so this is an example of Congress bypassing the court?
I just found it weird that Microsoft was arguing against it and now they bend over. Besides I don’t think a final decision had been made yet, so this is an example of Congress bypassing the court?
Apologies – I am not well acquainted with the case or US jurisprudence and I cannot answer you – perhaps someone else here can.
I do believe though the laws coming out will effectively put paid to any such challenges by providers.
It is well known that MS collaborates with NSA and other deep state elements on harvesting data and is only paying lip-service to legal obligations now that the matter is out in the open.
- AuthorPosts
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

921526
921524
919244
916783
915526
915524
915354
915129
914037
909862
908811
908810
908500
908465
908464
908300
907963
907895
907477
902002
901301
901106
901105
901104
901024
901017
900393
900392
900391
900390
899038
898980
896844
896798
896797
895983
895850
895848
893740
893036
891671
891670
891336
891017
890865
889894
889741
889058
888157
887960
887768
886321
886306
885519
884948
883951
881340
881339
880491
878671
878351
877678
