The things money can't buy…

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

So I find myself in Bahrain again. The place is practically Vegas of the Middle-East, sans gambling. Drinking girls and all types of f~~~ery can be found and had for the right price.
Now, here’s a paradox I didn’t see coming. Now, by all means I don’t mean to blow my own whistle, but I’m far from unattractive. I am quite sure the women here have some interest in me, and yet, they are so accustomed to being working girls that even if they wanted to sleep with you, well, they would still want you to pay for it. This to me is ironic in a sense, as they seem to literally want to have their cake and eat it too.

The thing of that gets me is some of these women will quite literally approach you and ask you to “take them out”. This happens completely unprovoked, out of context and setting. It’s as if they are actually attracted to you, but so mind-f~~~ed that they simply think they can get your attention (and money) whilst making no effort at all. It is as though they have forgotten how to be seductive.

But of all the things I can’t make sense of, what gets me the most is the idea that even if these women are attracted to me, the minute I have pay to play, the experience looses it’s luster. It becomes a meaningless and rather dull experience that seems rather unfulfilling. Anyone have any insight or input on this?

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Binary Logic wrote:

The thing of that gets me is some of these women will quite literally approach you and ask you to “take them out”.

: “Take me out to dinner.”
: NO.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Binary Logic wrote:

Now, here’s a paradox I didn’t see coming. Now, by all means I don’t mean to blow my own whistle, but I’m far from unattractive. I am quite sure the women here have some interest in me, and yet, they are so accustomed to being working girls that even if they wanted to sleep with you, well, they would still want you to pay for it.

A women’s list of priorities in choosing MEN:

1. RESOURCES

2. Perceived man’s societal power/class/stature/fame etc.

3. Attractiveness

Women may “play” with reversing 1 & 2, but #3 is just an added bonus for many, not necessary but nice to have.

Most Men’s priorities in choosing a Women:

1. Attractiveness

2. Perceived women’s societal class/stature etc.

3. resources

Most men require 1, and 2 is important, but 3 is a complete bonus and not usually expected

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

Well put Awakened. I see staying away for too long has cost me some of the most basic lessons here. I appreciate the reminder.

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

A second life, going back into a relations~~~ and time.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Binary Logic wrote:

The thing of that gets me is some of these women will quite literally approach you and ask you to “take them out”.

Ah yes “taking her out”. I would just respond “I don’t TAKE women out. I go out, and if you are lucky, I may ask you to join me. Not the other way around. I don’t TAKE women out”. Play obtuse and stupid if you want. Make as if the concept of “taking women out” is silly and stupid to you.

Oh yes. I’ve been there:

“Will you buy me a drink?”

“Are you saying you can’t afford to buy YOURSELF one?”

That’s how you have to handle it – and the internalized attitude required.
And be direct about it!

Dating equals porking. Sometimes women attempt to DISTRACT US to make us think we should “take her out” to a new restaurant, or see the latest movie, or spend $300 on concert tickets.

NO.

Dating. Equals. Porking. That is the only reason to associate with her. When I go out, I don’t need her permission for any of it, and my good time will never hinge on her “yes” or “no”. She can join me. Or not. That’s her only option and she will be corrected.

When she’s horny, approaching or coming on to you, you don’t take her to a restaurant. You take her to BED. Say this directly to her face.

Never “take women out”.
She is a GUEST in your universe.
Establish that in attitude and actuality.

Binary Logic wrote:

If they wanted to sleep with you, well, they would still want you to pay for it

No different than the west. They want to be treated like prostitutes. Even in times when I’ve gotten tail “for free”, she was “having sex on credit” and hinged some other unrelated price or condition on it.

• Expecting another date or meal
• Another phone call
• A gift / proposal / commitment
• More attention
• “Poof! That means we’re in a relationship now”.
• To fuel her need for continued drama or something to gossip to her friends about.
• Validation
• The desire to be continually pursued

Some other unrelated price or condition.

A straight sex-for-sex exchange was never enough. No matter how much of a good time and fun/orgasm she had, if I didn’t do that imaginary thing (i.e pay up) it was equated to “treating her badly”. There was always some kind of unrelated price or condition attached to it.

Even a girl who once showed up at my door for some nookie – and brought me something to eat – eventually became a girlfriend many years later. One day she told me that in the beginning she actually told her girlfriends “one day, this is going to “PAY OFF”.

Yes, really.

Even at the start, when she used me as her “booty call”, she was having sex on credit and expected it to eventually “pay off”. When the reality hit me, I started planning my exit.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

THAT is the insight I was looking for. Thanks for the wise words KM! It is truly appreciated!

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Binary Logic wrote:

Thanks

It occurred to me on a 2ND date once, when I had just mentioned I was going to New York on a short trip. She says “Oh I LOVE New York! Will you take me to New York?”

Took a minute but the words jumped out:
Will you…. “TAKE ME”.

No I don’t take sand to the beach. But I thought “WTF??? Who asks someone that? Where does that question even come from? Why would she even phrase it that way instead of asking if she can come WITH me?”

Big difference between “taking” and “coming with” – or joining. It lingered for a long time and it confused me why women kept phrasing it that way. Like we should “take them” out, like I am entertaining her and that’s the entire point of it all.

The concept of “taking them out” bothered me ever since.

I’m going without her anyway!

Take a woman (I barely knew) to New York was like taking sand to the beach! Or taking coffee to Starbucks! New York already has women there if that was the point – 4 million of them! Surely she wasn’t implying that she would be preferred company to ALL the other 4 million.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Something c~~~s dont seem to care about, which means everything to those, “serious relationship,” Loyalty.

C~~~s seem to think, loyalty is for suckers.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

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