The status for women having kids is diminishing?

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

http://www.returnofkings.com/76537/why-women-stopped-having-children

Interesting article,wondering is their any truth to what its saying?

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[experiencedParticipant]

Truly raising a child is one of the most important jobs in the world.
As Bill Burr says, it is not the toughest job in the world.
A child who is set in front of a screen does not develop as well as one who is interacted with in a loving consistent highly focused rewarding manner.
Having kids vs. raising kids to be winners are two different matters.
The resultant rewarding extended family structure for a woman who busts her ass to be the best possible wife and mom no longer exists for the LAYDEEZ who make shallow choices when faced with deep decisions. Society has empowered them to kick the back of their husbands skull after placing his teeth fully open mouthed against the 90 degree concrete of the curb…. and kick they do.
Men get back up and learn from it, not so with women.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 11]

Yes, I think there is some truth there.

Let me sum it up more succinctly than ROK. Women are selfish c~~~ carousel hoppers. Between the sexual organ destroying STDs and stupidly focusing on trying to out compete men women deny their biological imperative.

I see the results of it. The childless women in their late 40s that I know regret not having children at a very deep level. They had fun on the carousel though.

[Anonymous 42]

experienced wrote:

Having kids vs. raising kids to be winners are two different matters.

Far too many parents are defeated in this endeavor by the publick skool system. It seems gynocracy has ruined it for the family and parenting all together, only home schooled children even stand a chance, and that’s only if friends and media doesn’t influence them to make a wrong turn! Society is mortally wounded by impropriety, it’s like Sodom & Gomorrah, just turn your back on everything and walk away! AND DON’T LOOK BACK!

Anonymous wrote:

The childless women in their late 40s that I know regret not having children at a very deep level.

Most women born during and after the women’s revolution are disturbed deep down inside in both their bellies and brains, they are ruined to the core! So is their modified society!
I want no part of the unnatural torture and endless agony of being part of this molestation, they’re truly DEAD to me, a walking talking breathing corpse!
It’s only natural they feel dead inside, BECAUSE THEY ARE DEAD INSIDE.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

experienced wrote:

Having kids vs. raising kids to be winners are two different matters.

Far too many parents are defeated in this endeavor by the <span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: purple”>publick skool </span>system. It seems gynocracy has ruined it for the family and parenting all together, only <span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: red”>home schooled</span> children even stand a chance, and that’s only if friends and media doesn’t influence them to make a wrong turn! Society is mortally wounded by impropriety, it’s like Sodom & Gomorrah, just turn your back on everything and walk away! AND DON’T LOOK BACK!

ChauvinistPig wrote:

The childless women in their late 40s that I know regret not having children at a very deep level.

Most women born during and after the women’s revolution are disturbed deep down inside in both their bellies and brains, they are ruined to the core! So is their modified society!
I want no part of the unnatural torture and endless agony of being part of this molestation, they’re truly DEAD to me, a walking talking breathing corpse!
It’s only natural they feel dead inside, BECAUSE THEY ARE DEAD INSIDE.

Agree with Tower 100% with this.

[narwhalParticipant]

Although I agree with the mechanics of what is pressuring women to forgo having children, I disagree with the mystical ‘System’ that is driving this change. What is ‘the system’?

I tend to think that the original relatively few women who did not want to fit into the mold that women used to generally fit wanted to make changes. In order to do that, they not only had to convince the voters/politicians/society that they should not be limited to their box, but they had to grow their numbers. It probably wasn’t even a conscious thing per se, but they need more women to join forces with them. They needed men emasculated who would not stand in their way.

Put another way, if you want to break through a bearer, you cannot simply ask nicely and expect the barrier to come down, you have break through it with enormous force.

Of course ever reaction has a reaction. Once you break out of your box, you lose the comfort and stability that came with that box. You’re force to chose between staying in that box (which isn’t all that comfy now that it’s been all broken up) or abandoning the box. Trying to live inside and outside of the box at the same time doesn’t work.

Meanwhile, MGTOW look at the mess created and want nothing to do with it. They take some of the loose cardboard left over from the mess, take it to other room, and go make a cool fort out of cardboard.

Note: I think lost track of what I was trying to say…but I liked where the box analogy was going so I stuck with it.

Ok. Then do it.

[Anonymous 11]

ILiveAgain wrote:

Agree with Tower 100% with this.

As do I.

There’s not a day that goes by where I don’t see some woman throwing a monkey wrench into anything she can just because vagina.

They don’t affect me anymore though. I’ve checked out permanently.

Now, any time a woman f~~~s something up I make money. So please ladies, don’t ever change.

[Anonymous 3]

They made their own decisions, nobody forced them to attack men and be promiscuous sluts. Plenty of women still get married and have kids, my entire social circle and extended family are like that. I’m the only one I know that didn’t get married, and I’m sure it’s the same for most MGTOW especially the older ones.

If there’s a problem with society, it’s that all policy is designed for the benefit of the worst actors of society, which is generally the average Western woman.

If you take the ROK article to its logical conclusions, women are much too stupid to be able to make their own life decisions, and therefore should not be going to college, should not be voting, and should be under the control of first a father and then a husband. But that’s not what ROK is advocating, that’s not what these women are advocating, and frankly it’s not what I’m advocating either.

While that type of system is the best for women and worked for thousands of years, women now have “freedom” and have unwittingly also given us men freedom. I do not care about women in the least and certainly not enough to take that anchor up again willingly.

The men of previous generations were selfless and so they placed women in a protected position and took care of them. Then the generation of Cultural Marxists came about, the men of those generations were too weak and stupid to understand how the system was to women’s benefit, and women were so greedy that they wanted even more, so they both just blew up the entire system.

The women of today and yesterday were perfectly aware of what they were doing but did it anyway, because they enjoyed it, and they never fathomed that men would actually walk away from the table.

But that is where the hope is, with MGTOW, with men refusing to continue to be disposable saps. After tasting freedom why should men run back onto the plantation and shackle themselves? Just because women are asking them to come back? Come on now. They’re holding the stick behind their backs, they didn’t even bother putting it away and certainly didn’t bother coming up with an incentive.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I’d say there is some truth here. Especially the bit about poor communities and all that. Not to mention, in poor communities, having a child is basically a sound financial plan because big daddy government will take care of them.

Not to mention you see this seething hatred among women when a woman decides to be a stay at home mom, like she has somehow betrayed feminism and women. There’s more emphasis on the career driven woman, and to be like that. Also, there’s all this 30 is the new 20, 40 is the new 30 bulls~~~ going on. For f~~~ sake, women think the fun lasts forever, and then they hit the wall, and it’s done. Yep, they are basically children, no foresight or planning. God forbid they have to stop whoring around for five minutes to actually raise a child, but they ask so much more of men, and once he has given her everything she thanks him by divorcing him.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Anonymous wrote:

They made their own decisions, nobody forced them to attack men and be promiscuous sluts. Plenty of women still get married and have kids, my entire social circle and extended family are like that. I’m the only one I know that didn’t get married, and I’m sure it’s the same for most MGTOW especially the older ones.

I see the opposite. I have a decently sized extended family…12 siblings/cousins that are like late 20s to late 30s in age. Of the males, one is married/divorced and has 1 kid. Of the females, 1 is married no kids, and 2 married with kids(one on a second marriage). So 3/12(all women lol) currently married, and literally 1 out of 12 of us pulled off the traditional marriage, no divorce, multiple kids thing in life.

Of the ten or so guys I have kept in touch with from high school that I still hang out with or talk to on occasion, one married around 25 and started popping kids out and is still married, and all the rest of us have no intention of ever marrying.

Of coworkers under 40, probably about half are married…but its a pretty odd sample to look at because its mostly men that are making six figures…so prime targets for women looking for beta bucks. Of those that are not married most of them seem to plan on never marrying, although a few are still blue pillers on the look out. After talking to any of our divorced coworkers and finding out what a raw deal they got it doesn’t take much more to convince you to never marry lol.

Silverstone the Second wrote:

I’d say there is some truth here. Especially the bit about poor communities and all that. Not to mention, in poor communities, having a child is basically a sound financial plan because big daddy government will take care of them.

Not to mention you see this seething hatred among women when a woman decides to be a stay at home mom, like she has somehow betrayed feminism and women. There’s more emphasis on the career driven woman, and to be like that. Also, there’s all this 30 is the new 20, 40 is the new 30 bulls~~~ going on. For f~~~ sake, women think the fun lasts forever, and then they hit the wall, and it’s done. Yep, they are basically children, no foresight or planning. God forbid they have to stop whoring around for five minutes to actually raise a child, but they ask so much more of men, and once he has given her everything she thanks him by divorcing him.

Sad but true. Popping a kid out is like a payday if you are poor anyhow, but for middle class people these days popping a kid out is the most expensive thing you can do…yet nobody can seem to figure out why poor people pop out 5 kids and middle class are only having 1 or 2 if they have any at all.

Plus you throw in the whole divorce factor, and for a guy with a decent job a kid is financial suicide these days. Just for an example, one of my buddies at work pays 1900 dollars a month in child support for 2 kids, and has to provide their health insurance and pay any medical expenses, plus has to pay for food and activities and stuff when he has them. It makes me wonder…what the f~~~ does the mom supply for them? I could raise 2 kids off what he pays in child support no problem…either his kids are spoiled rotten or she has literally no financial responsibility at all for them…its ridiculous.

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