The spectrum of the red pill…

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I’ve got a kitchen remodel project around my place I’m undertaking. I had a contractor come recently to give me a quote figuring if his quote was within a couple grand of material cost I’d just pay him. I could probably do all the work he’s going to be doing in a day so I’m sure it would have been a couple hours tops for a pro…but I was really just looking to avoid the hassle of ordering stuff through multiple vendors and turning my place into a storage warehouse for a month until I get all the s~~~ in I need to actually do the job and minimize time I have to go without a serviceable kitchen. The contractor would have just bought it all in one shot and had it all done at once…so I was cool paying a bit for that perk, but long story short the price was insane, so off to the local big box hardware store I go.

I walked in with all my s~~~ drawn out pretty detailed with measurements and had a good idea of exactly what I needed, it was mainly just a matter of working with a salesperson to pick out some styling options, get it all punched in the computer, getting some paperwork done, and getting the orders sent out. I have a mind set with spending money that if you are buying something you will use daily for years, don’t cheap it out, coupled with knowing that total cost was going to be way below the initial contractor quote I had…I really wasn’t interested in shaving off a couple hundred bucks here and there, I was more interested in just getting what I wanted.

The salesperson happened to be a woman probably early 50s, who at one point asked about some small styling option and she could tell it was something I had put no thought into. She just laughed and jokingly said “I can tell you aren’t married, am I right?” Obviously if I was every stupid little choice would have been a giant deal. When it came to the counter top, I just walked to the one I wanted, pointed, and said “I want that one.” Her response, “You have expensive tastes.” Like I said…I’m going to use it daily for years to come and knew I wanted a stone counter top with a nice under mount sink…for the square footage I needed I wasn’t going to save much by going with some stone that costed a couple bucks a square foot less, and I just want to get what I want so I didn’t want to cheap out and get some stock press board pieces to shave a bit off, but I think at that point she also realized money wasn’t any sort of issue for me.

So back to the desk we go, and at this point a younger coworker of hers is sitting at the desk right behind her, she introduced me to the girl, who made a little small talk, and then was obviously listening to the conversation afterwards as I was finishing up with the original lady. Before I stood up again, the older woman had asked my age, where I worked, what I did, and if I had any kids…it was like a complete interview while the younger girl was listening in lol. Aware of what was going on, I was just like f~~~ it…red pill bomb time when she got to the kids question. I just said “Nope, and I don’t plan on having any. I know too many guys that got raked over the coals in divorces and have to pay stupid amounts of money to the ex for kids they get to see every other weekend, and I work with a few that got their child support based on high overtime years that end up pretty much in poverty if they don’t want to work 60 hour weeks indefinitely to keep making the same money.”

The younger girl didn’t make another comment to me or even look in my direction again after that lol. The older one strangely enough agreed with me and said smart move. She started saying how she had been divorced and didn’t get child support, but got along well with her ex and anytime she needed a reasonable amount of money for something kid related he didn’t mind supplying. Maybe she was actually reasonable during their divorce, maybe she was full of s~~~, or maybe the ex was a dumb ass that gave her more than she thought she’d have gotten if she pushed for it in court, I don’t really know, nor did I care. Then she followed with something that surprised me, she said “You have to be careful these days…lots of women just get nasty if you end up getting divorced, don’t care what lawyers cost or whats fair, they just want to get as much as they can. Well…lot’s of women are just nasty in general.” I think that was the most red pill thing I’ve ever had a woman say to me other than conversations I’ve had with my grandmother, who probably thinks less of my generation of women than a lot of guys on here do lol…I was kind of shocked to hear it, especially after I had totally pegged her as “hive mind” during the “interview” while the younger girl was obviously listening in.

I walked out of there mostly just thinking f~~~ yeah…total cost about half of the contractors quote, I just saved myself a ton of money and this projects going to look sweet when I’m done. When I got home an old dude neighbor of mine I’m pretty friendly with was outside, so we were shooting the s~~~ for a bit, and he was telling me how he just found a new home for a chair he wanted to get rid of to a new guy who had just moved into the building. So a few minutes later the new guy comes over to get it, and we’re shooting the s~~~ with him, and its kind of a bulky chair so I offer to help the guy carry it over to his place. Come to find out the guy just got wrecked in divorce and has a young daughter he gets two afternoons a week from the time he gets out of work and picks her up from daycare until 7:30. F~~~ed for the next 16 years at a minimum. Pretty much why I told that woman about an hour earlier why I didn’t want kids…yeah…this guy was yet another living example of it.

I realized today, my interactions with people pretty much demonstrated the whole spectrum of the red pill. There was the older post wall woman who could not deny the wisdom of the red pill, the younger attractive woman who had not yet hit the wall who was obviously very put off by red pill wisdom, my neighbor who sounded pretty miserable with his new role in life post divorce because he refused the red pill before he f~~~ed his life up, and me, the happy guy with an awesome life because he embraced the red pill.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Customers approached me all of the time about “why a man like me is not married” and that “I would make a nice man for their daughter”…

I dropped so many red pills that – years later – no one in my surrounding villages bothered me about it anymore.

I even used my real picture when I first signed up here.

I am pretty sure that if someone from “here” (where I live) would be reading my posts, they would constantly say “This reminds me of…” Thinking about me.

I was the most open mouthed red pill non-loser male all over. And I never made a secret out of my inner mindset on gold diggers and female “advantage takers”…

I now do ghosting only around new acquaintances…

… Until they step on my toes. Then they get red pill syrup down their throats.

Beer wrote:

the younger attractive woman who had not yet hit the wall who was obviously very put off by red pill wisdom,

Well, there you go. They switch from “super pleasant” man catch mode to “super indifferent” in seconds.

No real love in their hearts.

If you would really cause any woman “sleepless nights” then she would try to convince you of the opposite.

I lived though that so many times that I even have sadistic fun while confronting them with their own s~~~ty female nature.
Like saying: “See, your failed attempt to grab my wallet or your remote dislike of my house ended that “friendship” in seconds”

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[Anonymous 1]

Great story Beer. Good luck with the kitchen.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Yep. I’m a nasty woman! They are loud and proud, if you listen.

Peace brothers

[MonkParticipant 17056]

Beer wrote:

Obviously if I was every stupid little choice would have been a giant deal.

When I fitted my kitched out, the salesperson I dealt with was male. When he started running through the different options, I said ‘Listen, there’s no woman here. I just want a no-bulls~~~ functional kitchen’.

He burst out laughing.

… she said “You have to be careful these days … lots of women just get nasty if you end up getting divorced, don’t care what lawyers cost or whats fair, they just want to get as much as they can.

(Thinks: This guy is loaded but he’s switched on. Chameleon mode ON).
“I’m not like all those other women”.

[Daryll55Participant 2958]

Beer wrote:

I’ve got a kitchen remodel project around my place I’m undertaking. I had a contractor come recently to give me a quote figuring if his quote was within a couple grand of material cost I’d just pay him. I could probably do all the work he’s going to be doing in a day so I’m sure it would have been a couple hours tops for a pro…but I was really just looking to avoid the hassle of ordering stuff through multiple vendors and turning my place into a storage warehouse for a month until I get all the s~~~ in I need to actually do the job and minimize time I have to go without a serviceable kitchen. The contractor would have just bought it all in one shot and had it all done at once…so I was cool paying a bit for that perk, but long story short the price was insane, so off to the local big box hardware store I go.

I walked in with all my s~~~ drawn out pretty detailed with measurements and had a good idea of exactly what I needed, it was mainly just a matter of working with a salesperson to pick out some styling options, get it all punched in the computer, getting some paperwork done, and getting the orders sent out. I have a mind set with spending money that if you are buying something you will use daily for years, don’t cheap it out, coupled with knowing that total cost was going to be way below the initial contractor quote I had…I really wasn’t interested in shaving off a couple hundred bucks here and there, I was more interested in just getting what I wanted.

The salesperson happened to be a woman probably early 50s, who at one point asked about some small styling option and she could tell it was something I had put no thought into. She just laughed and jokingly said “I can tell you aren’t married, am I right?” Obviously if I was every stupid little choice would have been a giant deal. When it came to the counter top, I just walked to the one I wanted, pointed, and said “I want that one.” Her response, “You have expensive tastes.” Like I said…I’m going to use it daily for years to come and knew I wanted a stone counter top with a nice under mount sink…for the square footage I needed I wasn’t going to save much by going with some stone that costed a couple bucks a square foot less, and I just want to get what I want so I didn’t want to cheap out and get some stock press board pieces to shave a bit off, but I think at that point she also realized money wasn’t any sort of issue for me.

So back to the desk we go, and at this point a younger coworker of hers is sitting at the desk right behind her, she introduced me to the girl, who made a little small talk, and then was obviously listening to the conversation afterwards as I was finishing up with the original lady. Before I stood up again, the older woman had asked my age, where I worked, what I did, and if I had any kids…it was like a complete interview while the younger girl was listening in lol. Aware of what was going on, I was just like f~~~ it…red pill bomb time when she got to the kids question. I just said “Nope, and I don’t plan on having any. I know too many guys that got raked over the coals in divorces and have to pay stupid amounts of money to the ex for kids they get to see every other weekend, and I work with a few that got their child support based on high overtime years that end up pretty much in poverty if they don’t want to work 60 hour weeks indefinitely to keep making the same money.”

The younger girl didn’t make another comment to me or even look in my direction again after that lol. The older one strangely enough agreed with me and said smart move. She started saying how she had been divorced and didn’t get child support, but got along well with her ex and anytime she needed a reasonable amount of money for something kid related he didn’t mind supplying. Maybe she was actually reasonable during their divorce, maybe she was full of s~~~, or maybe the ex was a dumb ass that gave her more than she thought she’d have gotten if she pushed for it in court, I don’t really know, nor did I care. Then she followed with something that surprised me, she said “You have to be careful these days…lots of women just get nasty if you end up getting divorced, don’t care what lawyers cost or whats fair, they just want to get as much as they can. Well…lot’s of women are just nasty in general.” I think that was the most red pill thing I’ve ever had a woman say to me other than conversations I’ve had with my grandmother, who probably thinks less of my generation of women than a lot of guys on here do lol…I was kind of shocked to hear it, especially after I had totally pegged her as “hive mind” during the “interview” while the younger girl was obviously listening in.

I walked out of there mostly just thinking f~~~ yeah…total cost about half of the contractors quote, I just saved myself a ton of money and this projects going to look sweet when I’m done. When I got home an old dude neighbor of mine I’m pretty friendly with was outside, so we were shooting the s~~~ for a bit, and he was telling me how he just found a new home for a chair he wanted to get rid of to a new guy who had just moved into the building. So a few minutes later the new guy comes over to get it, and we’re shooting the s~~~ with him, and its kind of a bulky chair so I offer to help the guy carry it over to his place. Come to find out the guy just got wrecked in divorce and has a young daughter he gets two afternoons a week from the time he gets out of work and picks her up from daycare until 7:30. F~~~ed for the next 16 years at a minimum. Pretty much why I told that woman about an hour earlier why I didn’t want kids…yeah…this guy was yet another living example of it.

I realized today, my interactions with people pretty much demonstrated the whole spectrum of the red pill. There was the older post wall woman who could not deny the wisdom of the red pill, the younger attractive woman who had not yet hit the wall who was obviously very put off by red pill wisdom, my neighbor who sounded pretty miserable with his new role in life post divorce because he refused the red pill before he f~~~ed his life up, and me, the happy guy with an awesome life because he embraced the red pill.

RE:
Your Quote in bold,…. Hypergamy by proxy. Women do this ALL THE TIME. I have had it done to me quite a few times. Good catch of what was going on BTW !!

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[GregB0Participant]

Beer wrote:

I realized today, my interactions with people pretty much demonstrated the whole spectrum of the red pill. There was the older post wall woman who could not deny the wisdom of the red pill, the younger attractive woman who had not yet hit the wall who was obviously very put off by red pill wisdom, my neighbor who sounded pretty miserable with his new role in life post divorce because he refused the red pill before he f~~~ed his life up, and me, the happy guy with an awesome life because he embraced the red pill.

Fantastic post and a great example of how to deal with inquisitive sales staff who cannot stick to business only.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[NoMoreParticipant 1233]

Excellent post Beer!

A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

[SolidParticipant 7520]

Excellent post brother !!

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Monk wrote:

When I fitted my kitched out, the salesperson I dealt with was male. When he started running through the different options, I said ‘Listen, there’s no woman here. I just want a no-bulls~~~ functional kitchen’.

He burst out laughing.

Yeah lol. When I drew my stuff out I had taken measurements of each piece and filler I had in there now, and total wall to wall measurements…mainly just a double check for myself, if both sets of measurements left me with the same total I was good. Apparently it was supposed to be a big deal to adjust another piece so I could add a few inches to the sink base, and adjust a couple other pieces because there wasn’t a piece for piece match available for one piece I had so I need to make up a few inches elsewhere. In my mind it was just like…will all the cabinets open? Does it fit with no gaps that can’t be hidden by the blind corner? If yes…its fine. I guess it was supposed to be a big decision or something though.

Monk wrote:

(Thinks: This guy is loaded but he’s switched on. Chameleon mode ON).
“I’m not like all those other women”.

Yeah lol. I’ve rarely heard a divorce story from a guy that didn’t leave me thinking “Man that guy got f~~~ed up the ass.” I’ve never heard a woman say “I gave it to him hard in divorce,” they always talk like he got off easy. Somewhere…things don’t line up.

For all I know she didn’t push hard for child support during the divorce because the kid was already 17…but she walked away with a paid off house and half the guys pension + retirement savings while the guy walked away starting from scratch with his retirement trashed.

Daryll55 wrote:

Your Quote in bold,…. Hypergamy by proxy. Women do this ALL THE TIME. I have had it done to me quite a few times. Good catch of what was going on BTW !!

Yeah…something tells me the scenario would have been a bit different if I was in there concerned about sticking to a super tight budget and asking about financing options compared to just being like here’s what I want, I’m not worried about pinching pennies on something I’m going to look at and use every day for as long as I’m living here, and I’m paying in cash.

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