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    Anonymous
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    “Just before President Obama left office, his administration finalized new regulations banning Social Security recipients from buying a gun if they have trouble managing their finances.

    About 10 percent of all people 65 and older risked being classified as “financially incompetent” – about 4.2 million in all.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/22/second-amendment-rights-more-than-4-million-americans-are-at-risk-thanks-to-republicans-in-congress.html

    Who thinks this crap up!? How this stuff gets added to bills and passed is disturbing. This is digging way too deep into peoples personal business.

    There are millions upon millions of illegal aliens to be rounded up. Thousands of fugitives. Terrorists. But no, things like this are important instead. They are coming after the guns freaking fast gentlemen.

    #766894
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    Zerenity
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    The orignal 10 cant be messed with (IMHO)

    Any attempt to needs to be stopped with all due force.

    God grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change: Courage to change the things I can: And Wisdom to know the difference. -Reinhold Niebuhr 1951

    #766895
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    Anonymous
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    Why can’t the crazy gunmen assassinate the real assholes?

    #766896
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    Anonymous
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    Financially incompetent is only one form of being incompetent. There are countless others. Mark my words, they’ll pull the same thing with them too in time.

    #766909
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    Blade
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    I was fortunate to have held paper work in my hands for a short period years before the gun laws were put in place . The few that seen it laughed .

    Like the 50/50 in the armed forces put in place here . Yet they laugh and i have not come across one woman that knows about it . Bring it up they laugh .

    Never beleave the possible can be impossible . Both on negative and positive .

    Always keep an open mind .

    Communities and people are been divided for a reason . Like we say men of swedan or europe should fight for there countries and ” communities ” . Feminists divide and elites the puppet masters .

    COMMUNITY IS STRENGTH . Feed it and make it about the people so they still get individuality in the message portrayed . Radio .

    Although you are one the many will follow .

    Many people in my country cheer for gun laws and say the states should do the same . I say go live in areas effected with the states illegals or stay in areas near the mexican border . F~~~ go to swedastan . Media bulls~~~ brain washing .

    Be prepared to hide your guns before things unfold in front of your eyes on the beleaf that will never happen , always be prepared . Look into other simple things you can use or turn into weapons . Outside the box .

    Good luck states

    WHEN THERE IS A TERROR ATTACK AND PEOPLE AND KIDS ARE KILLED GOVERMENT AND MSM SAY WE MUST MOVE ON AFTER HUNDREDS KILLED AND F~~~ED . MOVE ON sound familiar .

    YET A SHOOTING HAPPENS IN AMERICA AND THE WORLD MSM AND GOVERMENTS MILK IT FOR EVERYTHING IT IS WORTH . I SEE IT AS USING THOSE VICTIMS .

    THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

    #766917
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    Anonymous
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    You damn straight they are using them Blade. Anything to help accomplish the agenda. No rules. No morality. No holds barred. Very good points you made brother.

    #766919
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    Hmskl'd
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    There will be no noticeable changes to gun laws .. at least around here. I am referring to the real world surrounding me .. not the world of news stories and all of that social media.

    I live out here in the the rural countryside of hunting, sportsmen, excellent gun safety courses, target shooting, skeet, trap, crossbow, compound bow, black powder season, .. the list could go on for paragraphs .. and then some. My first gun safety course was years ago .. and we spent time as part of our training at the area National Guard Armory where we practiced safety techniques under close supervision.

    We have very little, if any, crime where I live. I don’t lock my doors .. as far as I know, neither do most of my neighbors. I don’t recall any gun crime, burglary or event worth mentioning .. at least in recent memory.

    It is the world of every neighbor, every farm and basically everyone I can recall .. knowing and legally owning firearms. They own them, their parents owned them and their distant relatives did as well.

    Today I heard a sound of target practice. It sounded like skeet shooting. A couple of days ago I heard the same from the Sportmen’s Club shooting range several miles away. Those sounded like hunting rifles. On very quiet evenings .. I can sometimes hear black powder target shooting from miles away. This is very common. This is the real world .. a very rural world.

    As far as I can report, we have essentially no gun problems or issues here. Good people, good neighbors, skilled hunters and sportsmen .. we all know guns, we respect them and we have no problem issues with them. None, zero, zilch .. to report .. and I’ve lived here for over thirty years. Things are peaceful. Things are very good. I certainly wouldn’t want it any other way.

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    K
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    #766990
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    Blade
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    Build community in stealth . Dont be apart of the creation guide it and bump it

    THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

    #767175
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    Beer
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    So they can tell a financially challenged senior how to spend their money, but they can’t tell a financially challenged woman to keep her legs closed and stop popping out kids she can’t afford?

    #767397
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    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    I wish there was some agreement on what a “Well regulated militia” is. But I don’t even see that. I see the second amendment read as only: “The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    To which, you have lawmakers proposing that homeless people be armed with shotguns to protect themselves:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/16/arm-homeless-with-shotguns-to-reduce-crime-us-senate-hopeful-says.html

    And now, I am thinking of the movie: “Hobo with a Shotgun”:

    What does all this discussion have to do with the second amendment?

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #767402
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    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    Build community in stealth . Dont be apart of the creation guide it and bump it

    “The right of the people to be Ninjas, shall not be infringed.”

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #767403
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    Anonymous
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    They will work on the fringe at all times until one day we wake up and the circle is complete, no guns.

    #767405
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    Beer
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    I wish there was some agreement on what a “Well regulated militia” is.

    I think it was pretty clear cut what a milita was when this document was written, and what the intent of the founding fathers was.

    Its just modern day liberals want to redefine militia as national guard to fit their agenda and pretend like in the 1700s the militia wasn’t pretty much anyone able to hold a gun, and that they recognized at that point in history the enemy the militia may be fighting may in fact be an oppressive government, you know, considering we just got done winning our independence from Britian and all.

    #768242
    IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)
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    I wish there was some agreement on what a “Well regulated militia” is.

    I think it was pretty clear cut what a milita was when this document was written, and what the intent of the founding fathers was.

    Its just modern day liberals want to redefine militia as national guard to fit their agenda and pretend like in the 1700s the militia wasn’t pretty much anyone able to hold a gun, and that they recognized at that point in history the enemy the militia may be fighting may in fact be an oppressive government, you know, considering we just got done winning our independence from Britian and all.

    I am likely mostly agreement with you here. I believe the Founding Fathers wanted to have citizens sufficiently armed, that they could rise up against the government, if the government became repressive, and needed to be overturned. It seems that anything BUT that is part of the debate, right down to arguing about weapons for hunting, or personally warding off a criminal. What do any of these have to do with protecting against all enemies foreign and domestic? The argument for self-defense needs to come out of of the militia argument, and that one also has a right to self-defense. All this appears to be lost to me. The National Guard argument is closer to this, but it still isn’t sufficient.

    As it is now, considering America became a superpower, to which the Founding Fathers likely weren’t looking for (just mind one’s own business, and let Europe burn), really has ended up undermining this view. The U.S military’s budget is so large, and weapons research a good chunk of it, that normal weapons available to citizens aren’t even sufficient. The military is research mind control and ability to disarm situations where it doesn’t cause any other damage. They are such they can target threats and make it look like it is anything.

    Things are such now, if you begin to discuss the intent of the founding fathers, people think you want to overthrow the government, and any publicity will end up labeling where you live as a “compound”. Yes, I hold a basic rule that you know you are in trouble if where you live gets called a “compound” by the news media.

    My wish is that, I wish the blasted conversation regarding what the Second Amendment was about, centered on what the Founding Fathers meant, and why it matters. As it is now, the NRA and their political opponents are totally not making this possible.

    I take that “Well regulated militias” would help to prevent unbalanced individuals from being a threat with weapons. We don’t have this now. I would hold, maybe if the NRA got the Second Amendment right fully, they could be one of the well regulated militias and citizens who wanted weapons would have to be members, and go through sufficient training on properly using them, and the NRA could also make sure that unbalanced individuals were dealt with. The NRA wouldn’t be the only such organization. Others could also. Private citizens could take care of things properly.

    Anyhow, that is a take I have on this. I believe I am closer to the Founding Father’s intentions than what I am seeing here. I would also say that well regulated militias could also end up having other weapons beyond just personal fire arms for self-defense and hunting. They need to be well regulated.

    By the way, I take “Well regulated” to mean “functioning competently and reliably for the intention they were designed”, not “buried in a bunch of government rules to make sure they are of minimal effect”.

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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