The Scorpion and the Frog

[StealthParticipant 5326]

A scorpion came upon a stream and desired to cross, but could not swim. So she asked a nearby frog if he would be kind enough to carry her across on his back. The frog replied, “I could, but how do I know you won’t sting me?” The scorpion replied, “Because if I do, I will die too.”

Convinced, the frog agreed. In midstream, the scorpion plunged her stinger into the frog. As they sank to their mutual death, the frog asked “Why did you sting me?”

The scorpion replied, “Because it’s my nature.”

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[Branched offParticipant 10920]

Aesop collected a lot of simple wisdom. The frog was a fool to succumb to his generous nature. We all must beware of our own nature as men. We have something in our head that wants to be a white knight and so when they do then use us and mess with our heads, we have only ourselves to blame.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

A scorpion came upon a stream and desired to cross, but could not swim. So she asked a nearby MGTOAD if he would be kind enough to carry her across on his back. The MGTOAD then flung the scorpion into the deepest part of the stream to sink or swim as her own abilities permitted her.

As the scorpion sank to her sole, inevitable death, she asked the MGTOAD, “Why did you fling me?”

The MGTOAD replied, “Because I know your nature.”

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Probably my favorite wise fable.

Essentially pretty similar to the farmer and the snake.

Older cultures understood the folly of excessive compassion. Any philosophy based on mindless compassion is stupid. I’m not responsible for taking care of people who would just as soon destroy me. (e.g. migrants) I’m sure there were cultures in the past like ours and they didn’t last long enough to even register as more than farts in a hurricane.

Altruism only evolved because there was a benefit to the group as a whole. Helping an outside group that doesn’t share or reciprocate your idealism, to the detriment of your own group, will result in your own group becoming extinct and the other group becoming dominant. Its simple biology, simple game theory.

Current Western culture is based on sacrificing your own culture to help others. Western culture is cucked and is now effectively a dead-end, both genetically and ideologically. Progressivism is suicide and self-hatred, couched in fake moralism and fake enlightenment.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22520]

There is a variation to this story, which is the Scorpion and the Turtle. The same story up until the scorpion stings, but in this story the turtle’s shell protects the turtle from the sting. Then, in response to the betrayal, the turtle slowly sinks in the water where the scorpion drowns, while the turtle is fine.

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

I’ve long missed the wisdom of this place.. this thread alone reminds me of what brought me here in the first place. Had I of frequented it recently, I would have been spared the recent grief of experiencing the ‘No good deed’ principle.

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[Branched offParticipant 10920]

Ranger One wrote:

Probably my favorite wise fable.
Essentially pretty similar to the farmer and the snake.
Older cultures understood the folly of excessive compassion. Any philosophy based on mindless compassion is stupid. I’m not responsible for taking care of people who would just as soon destroy me. (e.g. migrants) I’m sure there were cultures in the past like ours and they didn’t last long enough to even register as more than farts in a hurricane.
Altruism only evolved because there was a benefit to the group as a whole. Helping an outside group that doesn’t share or reciprocate your idealism, to the detriment of your own group, will result in your own group becoming extinct and the other group becoming dominant. Its simple biology, simple game theory.
Current Western culture is based on sacrificing your own culture to help others. Western culture is cucked and is now effectively a dead-end, both genetically and ideologically. Progressivism is suicide and self-hatred, couched in fake moralism and fake enlightenment.

Very true. Western culture lost confidence in its own merit after two great wars which tore the heart out of empires while profiting no nation and to compound their bad luck the west then allowed women to vote. The result was this shameful and pathetic cuck culture that apologises for its past greatness.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Branched off wrote:

>Very true. Western culture lost confidence in its own merit after two great wars which tore the heart out of empires while profiting no nation and to compound their bad luck the west then allowed women to vote. The result was this shameful and pathetic cuck culture that apologises for its past greatness.

C.S. Lewis predicted our sort of world back in the 1940’s.

“In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.”
― C.S. Lewis, “The Abolition of Man”

For those that have not read “The Abolition of Man”, Wikipedia summary of part of it :

Lewis criticizes modern attempts to debunk “natural” values, such as those that would deny objective value to the waterfall, on rational grounds. He says that there is a set of objective values that have been shared, with minor differences, by every culture, which he refers to as “the traditional moralities of East and West, the Christian, the Pagan, and the Jew…”. Lewis calls that the Tao, from the Taoist word for the ultimate “way” or “path” of reality and human conduct. (Although Lewis saw natural law as supernatural in origin, as evidenced by his use of it as a proof of theism in Mere Christianity, his argument in the book does not rest on theism.)

Without the Tao, no value judgments can be made at all, and modern attempts to do away with some parts of traditional morality for some “rational” reason always proceed by arbitrarily selecting one part of the Tao and using it as grounds to debunk the others.

The final chapter describes the ultimate consequences of this debunking: a distant future in which the values and morals of the majority are controlled by a small group who rule by a “perfect” understanding of psychology, and who in turn, being able to “see through” any system of morality that might induce them to act in a certain way, are ruled only by their own unreflected whims. In surrendering rational reflection on their own motivations, the controllers will no longer be recognizably human, the controlled will be robot-like, and the Abolition of Man will have been completed.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[narwhalParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

Older cultures understood the folly of excessive compassion.

I don’t think excessive compassion is the right term. In most cases, ‘how much’ isn’t really the problem, it’s that it’s not compassionate in any way. Voting so that you and others can legally steal from fellow citizens is not compassionate. Virtual signalling is not compassionate. Giving someone money so they’ll go away isn’t compassionate. Never letting people face the consequence of their actions is not compassion. Encouraging people to blame society for their own failings is not compassion. Always saying yes is not compassion.

A man who spends all his time coaching boys on young men on how to better themselves, how to take control of their lives and not be a tool for others, how to reason and judge fairly….would be case of excessive compassion, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

BTW, I’m not a fan of the whole “it’s my nature” argument, that people can’t change. It’s usually used as a way of diverting blame, as you can’t be held responsible for your actions. Or perhaps society needs change so that a certain subculture can be more successful without having to change any of it’s characteristics. It’s BS. Humans have desires and habits, but we are ultimately capable of change, behaving properly, and making good decisions.

Ok. Then do it.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

narwhal wrote:

BTW, I’m not a fan of the whole “it’s my nature” argument, that people can’t change.

I have no problems dealing with things that function according to their “nature”.

Yellow jackets are hyper-aggressive and attack sometimes without warning, since that is in their nature. I simply poured a gallon of gasoline into their nest at night and burned them all, because that is MY nature.

Deer like to eat the plants I worked so hard on cultivating, since that is in their nature. I deployed countermeasures that leave them limping if they try too hard to jump the fence or I hit them with rocks, because that is MY nature.

I don’t mind reading about how Count Vlad the Impaler dealt with a Muslim invasion (he impaled 8,000 Turks on metal poles that went through their anuses and came out their mouths) because his nature was to deal successfully with the invader’s nature.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

narwhal wrote:

I don’t think excessive compassion is the right term. In most cases, ‘how much’ isn’t really the problem, it’s that it’s not compassionate in any way. Voting so that you and others can legally steal from fellow citizens is not compassionate. Virtual signalling is not compassionate. Giving someone money so they’ll go away isn’t compassionate. Never letting people face the consequence of their actions is not compassion. Encouraging people to blame society for their own failings is not compassion. Always saying yes is not compassion.

^EXACTLY THIS.

I have only one thing to add: They’re not giving their own money. They’re giving away other people’s money, and that is absolutely not compassion. It’s selfish and reprehensible. Robbing peter to pay Paul doesn’t make someone compassionate. It only makes them a thief. Oh, and it’s more than just not letting people face the consequences of their actions. Consequences can’t just be wished away like that. They force those consequences onto innocent third parties.

Why should we have to pay more taxes just because Cupcake’s plot to trap Chad with a baby didn’t work out as planned and now she’s a single mother on welfare? How is it compassionate to force us to pay for her mistake? More importantly, how does it teach her to not pop out a second, third, or fourth little chadspawn for us to support?

It doesn’t.

Ranger One wrote:

I have no problems dealing with things that function according to their “nature”.

But humanity is defined by transcending nature.

It is in our nature to sit in trees and fling sh​it. It’s not in our nature to walk on the moon. And yet here we are.

P.S. It’s no coincidence that you all already know the sex of the person who made that footprint.

[Branched offParticipant 10920]

I like the posts I have read on this thread. I think that blind compassion is dangerous and often useless too. Giving a crack whore money for her impoverished children is only going to result in her damaging her health with more drugs. It is not a sensible use of compassion. She should receive nothing to at least encourage others to make better choices.

If you remove the need for personal responsibility for you choices from a section of the population then human nature will be all they have left to guide them -their own whims. Look at the decadent aristocracy of the past they spent their lives intoxicated, fighting each other, having sex with everything in sight. Funnily enough the poor in our society today often have the exact same vices. Why -because they are as removed from responsibility as the aristocrats of the past.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

This parable might be my favorite.

Sovereignty above all else.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

sidecar wrote:

But humanity is defined by transcending nature.
It is in our nature to sit in trees and fling sh​it. It’s not in our nature to walk on the moon. And yet here we are.

P.S. It’s no coincidence that you all already know the sex of the person who made that footprint.

The only thing that man has that transcends nature is arrogance.

Footprint on the moon is over 50 years old. We haven’t done much with the moon, since. LOL. Oswald Spengler would have been amused by the pointlessness of it.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

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