The Red Pill Grief Cycle: Part 2: Cycle Breakdown

[AkhilleusParticipant 2486]

Learned the hard way.

Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging

[HitmanParticipant]

i learned the hard way too ..
great refresher video for me.
sums up my experience quite accurately.
amazing how so many men go through this.
MGTOW helped to save my life.
.
sometimes i want to be the prophet and tell the others,
but they do not accept the truths iv’e learned.
so i watch more and speak less.
.
the new perspective is incredible..
i stay to share with the newer men.
here, i can contribute.
not always profound wisdom,
just my experiences.
.
thanks for the share brother!

[AkhilleusParticipant 2486]

Sometimes wisdom can be found in simple stories what you might think is silly or non material others might find very helpful. Also tfm made a good point mgtow gives support to men that wouldn’t have any.

Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging

[Anonymous 42]

What do you call it when the red pill ran it’s course and you’re flushing it’s brown stinky remains down the toilet? That’s where I am…

[HitmanParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

What do you call it when the red pill ran it’s course and you’re flushing it’s brown stinky remains down the toilet? That’s where I am…

i call that time to s~~~ on the gynocentric marxist/feminist system that oppresses men.
living free of the c~~~f~~~ery that is the system.
…ah, but what the hell do i know???
hahaha!!!
MGTOWER for president !
you got my vote brother !
you are the wordsmith.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Thanks to all the bros here I need not learn the hard way.

Thank you!

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

Thank God I didn’t have to find out the hard way, but chatting with my blue pill friends it seems they will have to. I’ll be there to guide them but until then I’ll let them keep digging their own grave. I tried to tell them get out of that hole (both the ones they’re digging and the ones they’re chasing) and hand me the shovel but they chose not to listen. When they’re sitting in jail from a false rape accusation or suffering from whatever hell the broad they’re with or chasing decides to put them through for her amusement then I’ll go see them and simply say “Ready to listen to me now?”.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[experiencedParticipant]

If left brain is logic and right impulse, the impulse has saved me several times over the past years.
Right brain: “DON’T!” … then a quick turn down, ignoring, walk by, p~~~ off fact, distancing…..
Then “the D” says, “noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo”What have you done?!

Some time later, the left side of the brain is thankful. It knows it won’t be destroyed, broken in, shackled, etc.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Once you “heel” then I found you become quiet kind to all.
But at the same time… you are a no bulls~~~ guy.

On the way out of hell there is a happiness of factual reality.
So that way you know the score. Kind of like knowing a snow storm is coming and your snowblower is ready. (And you have no plans to plow out the feminist c~~~ who was slaving men via their wives. had to add that in there if you follow my posts.)

I’m currently in monk mode.
A peaceful happy time… of health purity… no herpes here.
No women needed, desired, wanted or even much valued.
Half a century of them in my face.. enough.
2016, the year of Unc~~~ing.. Hitlery too. She is now gone.
I focus my time on music now. THAT was perfect.
The coolness of a new guitar cord. Just bought a scales book.
So now I go Nazis on that book to master things. Again at the guitar store playing a $3k guitar and hooked up to an amp.. WOW… F~~~ing magic..

That’s the thing.. you will always red pill rage unless
you have other things to focus on. You cannot stay in
red pill rage hell. So, I share here what’s working for me..
Focus, self actualization, no f~~~s given.

Acceptance also is key. Women and mangina are c~~~s.
S~~~ just IS and things just ARE.

The video talks of the post father years…often in the college years. A great time to focus on new s~~~..
A pal rebuilds cars. Another gardens.
Another got me into music. The kid is off to college..getting a new car for greater independence and I get my life back.
Fatherhood.. was a f~~~ing blur. Went FAST.

Also, you own space…
Ah…Friday night in the code bunker.. going to hit up my guitar, pour a drink and enjoy the night after a little mgtow.
Just poured a nice ginger brandy from India. A bottle my mentor gave me… BTW.. all his guys at his companies are now practicing a form of stealth and ghosting… he relabelled it …focus on the work at hand… sort of line. Conditions the mangina to shut down the feminist. Men LOVE quiet…women…it is their hell.

The anonymity…is key to mgtow growth I think.
You will need to do many mind experiments as Stardusk speaks of in his videos. Mgtow road.. like riding bikes with bros… no hoes on the back…the bitch fell off. We all meet at the next wattering hole (post) down the road (next screen.).

Yes, to brotherhood. We share, learn, laugh and so on.
Mgtow.com is quite real to us all. OUR site.
The best compliment we can give to Keymaster and crew.

Everyone seeks “meaning.”
How about f~~~ that and just keep learning and open many doors.
Learning new things.. gardening, cooking, building, music, cars, art, science, gaming and what floats your boat.
Meaning then just happens. At lunch I was working on some guitar music..just plucking but I strung together many things and it was neat.

The pursuit of knowledge and understanding.. great.. your mind expands.. so instead of “meaning” more of a way of being…
So you DO NOT define yourself… but we still use terms to help communicate.

Mgtow road is a one way road…so stop looking back…
The past is your prison.

I often think of mgtow like a man in a space ship.. alone in space in a starship. There alone in your thoughts, it can be hell or a heaven. For men who open their minds…you will grow into something into wonderful.

I find the Mgtow 007 life of Stealth and focus is quite interesting. It’s like I now have knowledge few have.
I do not see this as living a lie.. I see it as a way to life
a life that I want. I value my peace and quiet.

In my 50s…so many are dying off now.
In 5 to 8 years.. all those I know will be gone.
So I need to face that not as a fear…but just value the greater wisdom I learned from these people. Like ships that met at sea and you were invited aboard to the captains table…there information is grown and you are so much more richer for it.

FATHER TIME…OUR BRO…
AS TIME PASSES… MEN BECOME MORE THEN WHAT THEY ARE.
THE WEEKS FLY BY AND YOUR MIND AND LIFE GROW RICH.
WOMEN, FATHER TIME KILLS OFF THEIR BEAUTY AND THEY ARE LOST.
TIME IS A GIFT TO MEN AND THE HORROR OF WOMEN.
TIME PASSES AND THE YEARS FLY BY AND I ENJOY THE PASSING OF TIME…LIKE TURNING THE PAGES OF MY BOOKS OF LIFE, YET NOT FULLY WRITTEN YET.

There is so much GOOD stuff in this post, especially for Men that were Awakened During Marriage and are fathers pushing or surpassing the half century mark.

For me, it’s a READ, and a RE-READ, RE-READ !!!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[MancloudParticipant 61]

I have a serious question concerning this “Red Pill Grief Cycle”: The thing is, in my case, I don’t feel like I’ve ever gone through these stages since I’ve found out about MGTOW. When I think about these steps, it takes me back to when I was still in middle school. I was severely bullied during one of my year of middle school by the entire class from start to finish, and when I look at this “Grief Cycle”, it corresponds perfectly to what I went through emotionally during that time.
At first I wasn’t realizing that I was getting shunned, desperately trying to fit in with the other pupils but getting rejected one attempt after the other.
Then I got mad after a few weeks and began reacting aggressively which only worsened the situation, what was only harmless bullying transformed into real physical and psychological abuse. Getting beaten up by a group of 5-6 boys from my class while a few girls were watching and laughing became common for me. Stealing my lunch from me and throwing it away, spreading false rumors about me… All of this became my everyday school life.
Then I “accepted” my situation and became depressed, my grades dropped significantly, I started developing a phobia for school, literally about to puke just from the thought of going to this sh*thole.
After that, I tried to find some people to hang out with that were younger, they never really accepted me but tolerated my presence which helped me through this year of hell.
Now that I look back at this year, I can’t help but smile and be grateful that this happened to me. It helped me realize that human beings are cruel creatures and the red pill was way too big for me to swallow at that time (I was 7 I think).

Then fast forward to the present: The MGTOW rhetoric didn’t even shock me to be honest, the red pill was quite easy to swallow this time and there was no sign of the first 3 steps of the Red Pill Cycle Grief.
What I’m getting at is: Am I still in the denial phase because I haven’t gone through the red pill rage, even tho my views on women are pretty much aligned with the MGTOW rhetoric? Or did that year of middle school acted as my Red Pill Cycle Grief even tho women weren’t the only leading role during that time?

[AkhilleusParticipant 2486]

Mancloud wrote:

I have a serious question concerning this “Red Pill Grief Cycle”: The thing is, in my case, I don’t feel like I’ve ever gone through these stages since I’ve found out about MGTOW. When I think about these steps, it takes me back to when I was still in middle school. I was severely bullied during one of my year of middle school by the entire class from start to finish, and when I look at this “Grief Cycle”, it corresponds perfectly to what I went through emotionally during that time.
At first I wasn’t realizing that I was getting shunned, desperately trying to fit in with the other pupils but getting rejected one attempt after the other.
Then I got mad after a few weeks and began reacting aggressively which only worsened the situation, what was only harmless bullying transformed into real physical and psychological abuse. Getting beaten up by a group of 5-6 boys from my class while a few girls were watching and laughing became common for me. Stealing my lunch from me and throwing it away, spreading false rumors about me… All of this became my everyday school life.
Then I “accepted” my situation and became depressed, my grades dropped significantly, I started developing a phobia for school, literally about to puke just from the thought of going to this sh*thole.
After that, I tried to find some people to hang out with that were younger, they never really accepted me but tolerated my presence which helped me through this year of hell.
Now that I look back at this year, I can’t help but smile and be grateful that this happened to me. It helped me realize that human beings are cruel creatures and the red pill was way too big for me to swallow at that time (I was 7 I think).

Then fast forward to the present: The MGTOW rhetoric didn’t even shock me to be honest, the red pill was quite easy to swallow this time and there was no sign of the first 3 steps of the Red Pill Cycle Grief.
What I’m getting at is: Am I still in the denial phase because I haven’t gone through the red pill rage, even tho my views on women are pretty much aligned with the MGTOW rhetoric? Or did that year of middle school acted as my Red Pill Cycle Grief even tho women weren’t the only leading role during that time?

Ever man is different I know sandman skipped the rage part then came back to it after, I feel ever bro goes thru it differently, I was bullied in middle school the fat kid and I was fed the mangina blue pill from mom saying oh don’t fight tell the teacher etc. Which made things worst my dad was trying to red pill me told me fight even of you lose fight…. I red pilled.. snapped fought back and the bullies left me alone but went thru a very angry phase I turned into a bully for awhile cause I told myself nobody would make me feel marginalized again. Eventually it passes I still get red pill ragey sometimes but I workout alot focus that into positive things. Everyone is different some people skip steps some people never self actualize till way later. It’s therapy just to talk about and to know others are going thru the same.

Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging

[MancloudParticipant 61]

Ok, thanks for the answer!

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