The Oppression of Freedom in America?

[Anonymous 0]

This is something that has been really irking me for a very long time and I wish to write about it and hear the thoughts of the other members here. I have been irked by this issue long before becoming MGTOW. I understand in going MGTOW I am not supposed to care about the whole and focus on me alone. But I feel this issue affects me and many others alike in the USA seeking freedom and self sovereignty. I am hoping some members who have a higher education and understanding of social dynamics and outcomes better than my own will help me here.

I do indeed realize this is all out of my control and that I must live with the cards as dealt so to speak.

Perhaps the unoppressed freedom I write of is as an abstract concept as the will of said social/political movements. It is of course all man made therefore not true law. Perhaps in my own belief that Americans can grow together into acceptance without trampling on others freedom is far too starry eyed and not realistic. Perhaps it is not to be and the divides amongst the humans in this melding pot of cultures religions and nations of people is a rotting experiment gone wrong long ago. Perhaps some groups can never coexist, as sad is it may be.
But here it is:

This is about the issue of having the freedom for an individual to decide for themselves what they will of things. I venture to state this is an issue every American citizen faces regardless of their opinions and beliefs. Freedom is gone oppression is here, and the young generation I find myself part of is heading, in my eyes for, worse blindly following cultural norms burning all who oppose, all while spitting in the very face of freedom this country was founded upon. I am ashamed by the actions of my generation, as it spirals into an anti-freedom fascist league of oppression.

I find the inability to have a dissenting view from main culture and social movements without repercussion and oppression sickening. Is that not how America as a country started? From the very foundation those seeking religious freedom from the oppression of the crown. Do all American citizens not have the right to choose for their own selves? Just because a movement is strong or socially crusaded down the masses throats does not make it necessarily right, or at least the forced acceptance of said movement right. My issue is not the groups or movements but the way acceptance is implemented. It could just as easily come from another faction than it is now, I would call it the shoe being on the other foot, and it was just so in the past of this country in my eyes. But does that justify what is happening to freedom now? I think not. It is political and ideological warfare stretching through hundreds of years.

I find the acceptance movements in America to be quite hypocritical of basic American freedoms. As an American citizen I am supposed to have the right to my beliefs and opinions contrary to current cultural beliefs if I so choose. However if ones current opinion does not align with cultural acceptance what ever issue it may be, the freedoms of that individual are trampled and they are oppressed by the government and groups seeking to force acceptance. Being that the individuals dissenting side is known. Or unknown for that fact being forced to accept what they do not hold to their own. While they are demonized for being different than those with the momentum through media propaganda and brainwashing in the schools by the system.

The oppression can work through the civil rights laws that have been used perversely to trample those with contrary beliefs through legal litigations that truly are illegal by constitutional standards by my interpretations. Or they are carried out by employers pressured by oppressive acceptance movements to terminate said individuals who are known to have differing opinions. I am not saying dissenting views are right either but those that hold them should have the right to with out oppression. How this has yet to lead to a federal case of basic American rights is beyond me. These employers happily oblige in fear of a bad image in modern culture. In other words American constitutional rights take a back seat to the jackbooted dollar and fascist doctrines of forced political and social acceptance.

Isn’t forcing one group to accept another the exact opposite way to bring them together? Isn’t a forced outcome the exact opposite goal of freedom in the first place? Do I or you as American citizens no longer have the right to choose what beliefs and standards to up hold in our own lives without fear of oppression through job loss or legal litigations regardless of what is considered social right or wrong?

Just because a society considers certain beliefs right or wrong does not in reality make them so. Is not the essence of freedom to make those determinations for ourselves? I think it is.

I only hope that as a country the people of vast cultural differences grow together ending such persecutions and making dissenting views of each other obsolete. I only worry that my young generation is all too caught up in forcing this to happen faster than the natural melding of people can occur will, and lead to the extinction of America and freedom that Americans once held so dear.

I advocate freedom for an individual to choose for themselves and beliefs given that ability and course of action that suits them best. I believe all would one day come together as common people who have devolved social differences based on what ever they may have held different in the past if they are allowed to grow together not be forced upon each other.

People must grow together, not be forced together by institutions, governments, laws and social movements. All of which force people together before they grow together causing hate and divide further. Only by growing together naturally can people accept each other individually and as a whole possibly regardless of past and current differences that may remain.

The best course of action in my opinion at this time is to ghost from society until freedom can, if it will reign again. The freedom to choose for ones own self is the freedom I speak without fear of job loss imprisonment or fines. And of course I understand just because I or anyone has beliefs does not mean I or they have to express beliefs as opinion. But the right to one still should exist without fear of reprimand for what it may be.

I am sick of the dystopian fight to the death society/culture this has seemingly become in the last 20 or so years, whether one is a chef, soldier, or garbage man it’s a fight to the death with everyone. Isn’t this country better than that? Or has is only been gilded for so long and now I am seeing it for the gauntlet it is? Freedom is dying with thunderous applause from the masses especially from my generation, hence my own name SoylentGeneration (besides my love of the movie Soylent Green). The institution has thrown all of it’s citizens into The Running Man while profiteering upon the civil unrest and strife of the commoner.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

Anonymous wrote:

The institution has thrown all of it’s citizens into The Running Man while profiteering upon the civil unrest and strife of the commoner.

Sir, move out of the large city you are in. The large city culture is effecting your mind.

The situation is not that bad.

Move to the rural and small town areas and you will find a much freer culture.

When is comes to the U.S. There are two U.S. nations. The large cities of the U.S. and everywhere else in the U.S.

The rural and small towns are the ones that produce the food, fuel, etc, that keeps the nation going.

The large cities produce that progressive anti-white, anti-male, anti-freedom bigotry, while living off of the work of the rural and small towns in the U.S.

Well, the rural areas and small towns of the U.S. were the ones that elected Donald Trump as President. And for the first time in a very long time, the large cities see them out of power at almost every level. From State to Federal. And those of the large cities are having a collective mental breakdown.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Please note: If one deducts NY city and LA County from the vote totals Trump wins by over 2 million votes nationwide.

[Anonymous 0]

Faust For Science wrote:

Sir, move out of the large city you are in. The large city culture is effecting your mind.

The situation is not that bad.

Move to the rural and small town areas and you will find a much freer culture.

When is comes to the U.S. There are two U.S. nations. The large cities of the U.S. and everywhere else in the U.S.

The rural and small towns are the ones that produce the food, fuel, etc, that keeps the nation going.

The large cities produce that progressive anti-white, anti-male, anti-freedom bigotry, while living off of the work of the rural and small towns in the U.S.

Well, the rural areas and small towns of the U.S. were the ones that elected Donald Trump as President. And for the first time in a very long time, the large cities see them out of power at almost every level. From State to Federal. And those of the large cities are having a collective mental breakdown.

I have moved out of the city I was living in this year, Still work in the city for two of the three jobs I hold including the full time job. Most of my family and friends are still in the local city so I am around it quite a lot still. Perhaps that’s why the city culture is affecting my thinking so much. I have developed those thoughts long before I moved away from the city, but have concern it will follow, perhaps I am not far enough and might even be sweating the small stuff. I am human after all so I make mistakes and errors. That and out here I keep to myself and really do not interact with many locals so I am not familiar with culture out here.

PistolPete wrote:

Please note: If one deducts NY city and LA County from the vote totals Trump wins by over 2 million votes nationwide.

That’s quite a huge difference once those two entitlement zones are excluded from the equation.

You live in YOUR time in history.
You could be standing knee deep in ice cold mud in ww1 in a trench with a guy with a whistle and a hand gun pointed at your head if you do not charge from the trench to get mowed down by a german machine gun.

You live in the best times in human history…anti biotics the web.
Easy credit.

You just need to focus on YOU.

Unplug from TV.

Faust for sci, nails it.

If you do not have education…a farm life is a good thing for you.

I think we are a society of generalist thinkers and not enough thought is at the desk level, your life and what YOU need to do.

After xmas.. I clean out my basement area to fire up my winter grow beds to grow spices…

In the spring…cold frames…what this will give me is organic greens for life.

Focus on YOU.

Let the world battle… take a nice walk, get a dog, learn how to garden, cook. Each Sunday I put Sunday Night Chef Mgtow posts.
YOU will save and have greater health.

Your health is #1.

Next up.. I’m researching growing my own fish in a bucket or tank…
The fukashima is f~~~ed the oceans.

The bankers have the binary parties always fighting.

Let them fight…then get some real estate and rent to the idiots
who are too busy watching TV.

For me… mgtow.. after 50 years, half a f~~~ing century..it’s
ALL ABOUT ME!!!!

I did my time being a blue pill mangina…the last half of my life is about Me and MY happiness.

Let them call me selfish. Who cares.

But why do I help feed my homeless bros?
So when you focus on YOU… you filter out all the liberal pricks and you start living YOUR life again.

UNPLUG BROTHER.

HAPPINESS FOLLOWS.

Man, Stealthy that hits me good, been doing much research on the Great War myself and that’s quite an excellent point. Had a garden this year and made it bigger for next. That is excellent, and I will have to research that. Been wanting to try a different job field for a while as well. Best try some local farms if they still hire farm hands. I need to unplug more it seems from what everyone is telling me here. I am not as unplugged as I thought.

Thanks guys.

[Better without YOUParticipant 234]

I searched “Why do people think I owe them something on the internet?”

A lot of searches came up for “toxic people”

One poster said “Welcome reciprocal altruism. It’s a really important social behavior that helps reinforce group cohesion….
If you do something for someone and they don’t reciprocate, you can assume that you can’t rely on them.”

The above statements gives people a tool, or device to manipulate situations, and other shady s~~~. A lot of people play dirty because they think they are entitled to something.

Made me feel anxious because I f~~~ing hate social engineers.

Then this quote made me feel better

“A king after offering a great sum of money to a zen master expecting the words of ” thanks” was disappointed to see that it was not forthcoming. So he asked the zen master: ” Don’t you think you have to thank me ?”
Zen master replied : ” Why should I thank you ? Actually you have to thank me for accepting it.”

Most people look for handouts and claim false hardships for who the f~~~ knows why. I guess to unload their baggage onto people I have no clue.

[Anonymous 0]

Having your s~~~ covered helps you be at peace.

9 page resume, 3 degrees, a few pallets of beprepared.com. good for 30 years. Safe if cash and silver. Guns and ammo, gardens, rents.

Take things one at a time and get your s~~~ in order.

Assume the world will go mad and plan accordingly.

Then pour a drink.

Tv…like being at a Soviet concentration camp being programmed.

Do not underestimate the power of my mgtow6. It works.

Unc~~~ing is just icing on the mgtow cake.

Best thing I ever did. Those women had evil plans for me.

Trump is aligning with the Jewish bankers my Jewish pals tell me. He will get massive reconstruction loans.

China is f~~~ed.

A global chess game.

Raising a glass to YOU and all my bros here.

And cheers to you as well good sir! Hopefully this glass will slow down all the thinking for a bit. It is raining crazy here, and I am just glad to be warm and dry.

Better without YOU wrote:

I searched “Why do people think I owe them something on the internet?”

A lot of searches came up for “toxic people”

One poster said “Welcome reciprocal altruism. It’s a really important social behavior that helps reinforce group cohesion….
If you do something for someone and they don’t reciprocate, you can assume that you can’t rely on them.”

The above statements gives people a tool, or device to manipulate situations, and other shady s~~~. A lot of people play dirty because they think they are entitled to something.

Made me feel anxious because I f~~~ing hate social engineers.

Then this quote made me feel better

“A king after offering a great sum of money to a zen master expecting the words of ” thanks” was disappointed to see that it was not forthcoming. So he asked the zen master: ” Don’t you think you have to thank me ?”
Zen master replied : ” Why should I thank you ? Actually you have to thank me for accepting it.”

Most people look for handouts and claim false hardships for who the f~~~ knows why. I guess to unload their baggage onto people I have no clue.

Ugh social engineers, now I have a term to put to those lot. Love the quote, Where/what is that from?

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