The Only Winning Move is Not to DATE

[Anonymous 0]

The War Games computer quote “The Only Winning Move is Not to Play” on the MGTOW greeting screen has many applications to MGTOW lifestyle, the most important being not to “Date”. Dating is the equivalent to always meeting the enemy to negotiate on their turf.

MGTOWs who seduce women can still be MGTOWs, but a true MGTOW doesn’t “Date”.

On TV an overused trope is the “is this a date?” routine. The bro and broad are meeting at a public place and one “slips up” and say something like “this is the weirdest date i’ve ever-” and the other says “is this a DATE?”. Gag is that the freudian slip is that BOTH consider it a date secretly and the “slip” is the relief of sexual tension. Ha ha ha, but this is ain’t so funny as it is tragic…it’s a blue pill gag because it implies the man is under the spell of “falling in love” with her and doesn’t even know it yet, or is too cowardly to admit it and is playing friend and shyly orbiting her. Very weak man-slavish behavior, and women love to fantasize about it because it foreshadows 50 years of obedient servitude of breadwinning and house chores.

Of course this fantasy is about more about resources than sex to her…”falling in love” as a romantic ideal is really the first stage of her breaking the wild mustang…getting him to not spit out the bit and her leading him around the corral.

“Dating” is a big victory for the modern dominant woman in the New Slavery Era (1913 – Present; Income Tax Act + Federal Reserve Act + 17th amendment-Senators by popular vote + 19th amendment-Women’s Suffrage + Welfare = Male Bondage). DON’T PLAY.

Instead, treat a meeting with a woman like any other meeting that an Integrated Man has: a neutral turf exploration of an opportunity to seek a profitable trade…in the case of a meeting with an attractive woman, a trade of sex for her to be allowed to orbit YOU, and beam down to your World of Adventure.

Flip the script on her: in a “date” she tests you, and if you pass by allowing yourself to be tamed, you get to orbit her and wait for permission to land your ship on her lush pussy planet, which you may never get (and if you do, it’s like checking into the Hotel California…your drop ship will be sabotaged)…but flipping the script is turning a “Date” into a “Muster Meeting” with you selling the Adventure…telling a short tale or two of a harrowing but funny journey of many in your Adventure Life, offering her a chance to amuse herself in your world, a World of Adventure that you and others will enjoy whether she joins or not. Then you question her Adventure worthiness:

It is important that you ignore her obvious physical assets (except to establish for a few seconds very early her sexiness and your attraction to it)…but then quickly start qualifying her personality… interrogate her personal journeys…her navigations through treacherous waters and her emotional reactions to surprises along the way…you are qualifying her as a potential shipmate on your explorer crew, testing her courage and cleverness. You imply that you are willing to reject her if she cannot prove her worthiness to not just serve her captain with wine and flesh, but to spin a yarn, read a bill of lading, handle her liquor, and be able to handle a sword if the ship gets boarded.

The Integrated Man has a mission to explore the universe from a home planet called World of Adventure with a capitol city called Lifestyle. In the city of Lifestyle the treasures of many adventures adorn the walls of everyone, male and female, who has participated in the Integrated Man’s quests. The city is also bustling with preparations for several more planned adventures, short and lengthy.

During this Muster Meeting, you are focused on the comedic aspects of your and her adventure lives…not ignoring the dramas and tragedies, but they are just short decision points, course corrections…the core of the Integrated Human is the indomitable will to fight through adversity, honor your fallen allies, yet as you tell the stories or hear stories, laugh at the surprises, esp. the shocking ones, and derisively laugh off the crushed ambitions of the fallen enemies. This mood is critical to maintain. Let no s~~~ test she throws kill the mood. Laugh off any attempt she makes to dent your unshakable and good-humored confidence in your commitment and capability to create Adventure.

Then give her an ultimatum: visit the city of Lifestyle or miss a chance to hear longer versions of the Tales. If she passes muster, she may choose to join the World of Adventure and embark on a voyage and share the bounty in exchange for womanly affections and availability to do occasional man-work. If she is captivated by the visions you spin, she will be seduced into your orbit, the “sale’ of an Adventure will be signed, and physical escalation will be easy.

It’s not a date, it’s just an individual muster meeting for a female crewmate, and you’re offering her the privilege to bunk with the captain rather than the other female tars.

This is how you refuse to play her game, and create your own game. All aboard!

In Fortis, Libertas
Coach Beef

[AwakenedParticipant 35203]

Anonymous wrote:

MGTOWs who seduce women can still be MGTOWs, but a true MGTOW’s doesn’t “Date”.

IMHO, it’s not really a man’s place to judge another man as far as if he’s a “true MGTOW” or not. Otherwise, is each man really choosing to go HIS OWN Way, or merely fulfilling some prescribed “role” like the Matrix has already “trained” him to do in “other” roles (IE: Boyfriend, Husband, Provider) ??

IMHO, My friend, Focus on Living your Own Life, and NOT on what men are “required” to do to be a “true MGTOW”, whatever the f~~~ that’s supposed to be ??

You have some creative writing skills, but you do sound a little PUA-ish, maybe it’s just me. I’m NOT trying to come across Negative, but Honest.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[BoarParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

It’s not a date, it’s just an individual muster meeting for a female crewmate, and you’re offering her the privilege to bunk with the captain rather than the other female tars.

Why bother associating with them in any form?

This advice sounds rather circumspect. Why would a red pill male want a female crewmate?

Awakened wrote:

You have some creative writing skills, but you do sound a little PUA-ish, maybe it’s just me.

I agree.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Many PUA’s make their way to our side. I say welcome them. They understand the game. In every game their is always a loser.

So why play?

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[AwakenedParticipant 35203]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

Many PUA’s make their way to our side. I say welcome them. They understand the game. In every game their is always a loser.

So why play?

“Every gambler knows
That the secret to survivin’
Is knowin’ what to throw away
And knowin’ what to keep
‘Cause every hand’s a winner
And every hand’s a loser……”

–Mr. Kenny Rogers

Kenny Rogers–just because I felt like it !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 0]

RE: Awakened
My intent was not to define what a MGTOW “should” or “shouldn’t” do, but to describe what I think MGTOW’s already, without any guidance, do NOT do, which is “date”, in the pop culture sense. The disparagement is of the cultural definition of dating as a female control tactic, a horse breaking process.
This thread section is “dating” so I assume it is for MGTOWs who still want to bang broads. And unless it’s a rape, a bang needs to be preceded by a seduction. But a MGTOW in my understanding does not play the female seduction game and instead plays his own seduction game.
As far as PUA, I don’t subscribe to 90% of the actions they recommend, because they are also “capture tactics”, morally no better than the female dating traps.
What i’m saying is be a TRUE adventurer, and both men and women will be seduced into joining up for a voyage or two or ten…men for brotherhood and women for pussyhood…no deception needed, no “need” for any one person to join, no extra effort needed to recruit other than what the Integrated Man would do anyway…talk joyfully about his voyages.

[AwakenedParticipant 35203]

Anonymous wrote:

My intent was not to define what a MGTOW “should” or “shouldn’t” do,

Unfortunately, intent doesn’t always come out clearly in the written word. For example you wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

a true MGTOW doesn’t “Date

You sound pretty clear to me.

Anonymous wrote:

This thread section is “dating” so I assume it is for MGTOWs who still want to bang broads.

Maybe, you should assume that maybe some MGTOW Date considering the thread section is “dating”, and leave the details up to each individual.

I REALLY am NOT trying to be a dick. I merely replied to your posting the way that I interpreted it to be. You have explained to me that my reply did not match up with your intention.

I’m cool with this, and the rest of the stuff I wrote up top of this reply was just for fun!!

Welcome Brother !!

All is GOOD !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 0]

RE: Awakened
No offense taken at all brother. I welcome the opportunity to clarify, especially since MGTOW topics are generally hard to make commentary on…the topics are steeped in personal history, usually negative personal history with the illiberal tactics of the cultural Matriarchy and the political Gynocracy.
I’m an old MGTOW even though Ive only joined this forum recently…I have a lot of battle scars, and my commentaries that contain “advice” are undertaken as carefully as I can, since newer MGTOWs are still feeling the pain of both their bad experiences with women and having to tear down their old Blue Pill beliefs and remaking them into Red Pill beliefs…it’s not an easy thing to go through. The intent of this forum is in part to teach and learn from each other, so I’m doing my part.
The “dating” advice I gave, for those MGTOWs who choose to bang broads, was really to redirect natural attraction to women from temptation to play their game to instead attract them to our game, which is the socialization component of as you put it, “Focusing on Your Own Life”. Most MGTOWs have some kind of social life, and to the extent they intend to meet new people, a MGTOW becomes attractive as friend or lover by passionately sharing the adventurous aspects of his self-directed life.
Thanks for the welcome and wise words.

[AwakenedParticipant 35203]

Anonymous wrote:

RE: Awakened
No offense taken at all brother. I welcome the opportunity to clarify, especially since MGTOW topics are generally hard to make commentary on…the topics are steeped in personal history, usually negative personal history with the illiberal tactics of the cultural Matriarchy and the political Gynocracy.
I’m an old MGTOW even though Ive only joined this forum recently…I have a lot of battle scars, and my commentaries that contain “advice” are undertaken as carefully as I can, since newer MGTOWs are still feeling the pain of both their bad experiences with women and having to tear down their old Blue Pill beliefs and remaking them into Red Pill beliefs…it’s not an easy thing to go through. The intent of this forum is in part to teach and learn from each other, so I’m doing my part.
The “dating” advice I gave, for those MGTOWs who choose to bang broads, was really to redirect natural attraction to women from temptation to play their game to instead attract them to our game, which is the socialization component of as you put it, “Focusing on Your Own Life”. Most MGTOWs have some kind of social life, and to the extent they intend to meet new people, a MGTOW becomes attractive as friend or lover by passionately sharing the adventurous aspects of his self-directed life.
Thanks for the welcome and wise words.

Keep Posting , YOU have MUCH to Offer !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 0]

RE: Boar
I would call a female cabin companion a “crewmate” out of courtesy. A woman is generally not an effective sailor on the rough seas, but she has amusement value. As long as she knows who’s captain and doesn’t try to break into the treasure trunks, she can bunk along. Otherwise, she gets left on the next island.
In my personal MGTOW practice, women cannot slow down the voyage. If they do, they’re cast out. The voyages of Adventure Life are the priority, and if she protests, there’s the door, no one’s imprisoning her, and no one’s slowing me down.

[narwhalParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

This thread section is “dating” so I assume it is for MGTOWs who still want to bang broads. And unless it’s a rape, a bang needs to be preceded by a seduction. But a MGTOW in my understanding does not play the female seduction game and instead plays his own seduction game.

I’m going to disagree. There doesn’t need to be any seduction really. All it takes to have sex is two people agreeing to have sex. There doesn’t need to be any form of game playing whatsoever.

Ok. Then do it.

[Anonymous 0]

RE: narwhal
I agree, I guess I’m using the broad definition of “seduction” meaning any time or effort expended to persuade the other that you are willing to go for it with her. You’re right, though, if you enjoy talking about your adventures or listening to hers, then sex need not be a goal of that talking. If during the talking she is clearly turned on and receptive to physical affection then that could be as little as a few seconds of “seduction”.

[OneTrueMisfitSpectator 2690]

The only winning move is to stop giving a s~~~ about women as a whole.

Don't care

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

A true MGTOW doesn’t “Date”.

Haha, not gonna lie, my hackles rose at this one. Sure don’t appreciate being told what I have to do or not do as a MGHOW. But I get what you’re saying. MGTOW don’t “date” in the conventional sense of paying for pussy with expensive gifts which may not even give him access to the divine pussy in the end.

Keep in mind, dating wasn’t always like this. It used to be called “courting,” and it involved the woman’s family essentially trying to convince the MAN that the woman was worth his attention and promising to give him loads of money and gifts AND the freedom to send her back anytime he wasn’t pleased with her if he would marry her. Surprise! Things worked pretty well back then.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Anonymous 0]

Haha, not gonna lie, my hackles rose at this one. Sure don’t appreciate being told what I have to do or not do as a MGTOW

Funny, most of you guys are as anti-authoritarian as I am and read in commands and rules where there isnt any. I have this defensiveness too. I’ll have to be careful to qualify and disclaim my opinions on how MGTOWs generally think, or to conditionionalize my “advice” so it doesnt sound like a f~~~in drill sergeant.

Good point on courting. Marriages were more political alliances back in the day, but only AFTER agriculture was invented, and wealth started to accumulate. Before agriculture, tribal patriarchy governed mating. There’s a lot of speculation on ancient tribal mating practices, and I’m wanting to do research on surviving indigenous tribes to see how marriages and mating works there. My current take is that it’s polygamous by default in favor of high status males.

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