The Neoreactionaries are false prophets.

[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

Hi everyone. Today I want to talk about r/darkenlightenment. It is the official subreddit of the neoreactionary movement, which is a segment of the larger alt-right.

Today, I am going to talk about why they are another false prophet. They are bad for MGTOW. What do they believe? I am going to go through the principles in their sidebar and review each one.

“Secular progressivism is the memetic descendent of Puritan Calvinism. Blasphemy, inquisition, indoctrination, and brainwashing still occur from the perspective of the progressive religion. Therefore, progressive culture is referred to as ‘the Cathedral’. The Cathedral consists of influential people in politics, journalism, academia and education acting in an uncoordinated manner to advance progressive principles in society; often deceptively. We do not imply conspiracies.”

This is a bit of a stretch but it kinda makes sense.

“Hierarchies are a natural consequence of innate differences and are necessary for societies to function. Stratified outcomes alone are not enough to prove discrimination or a failure of ‘social justice’. There is no ‘social justice,’ only traditional justice.”

This is pretty damn vague. What sort of hierarchies are you referring to? Not all hierarchies are products of innate differences. Some people are just born with a silver spoon up their ass.

“The only morality is civilization. Any belief or ideology that works against civilization is evil no matter how well-intentioned.”

Bulls~~~. If civilization is so great then why did it create birth control? Why did it create abortions? I’m not saying that civilization is inherently feminist. I’m saying that feminism would be impossible without it.

“Traditional values are not accidental. They are non-ideological social adaptations that provide good solutions to complex social problems. Cultures separated by vast amounts of time and geography independently converged on similar values. Values converged because cultures that implemented these values had a competitive advantage over their neighbors and became civilizations. Cultures that did not implement them failed and are forgotten.”

The implication behind this section is clear. The author is saying that the West is becoming feminized and this will lead to the conquest of the West by the Middle East. In reality, the West is still going strong despite its feminization. This should worry us because it implies that Islam will never dominate the world … but feminism will. Never forget that. Muslims are not capapble of conquering the world but feminist are. That’s what we should worry about.

“Modern conservatives are last century’s progressives. Many ideas held by ‘conservatives’ today were progressive (sometimes radically so) in the past.”

This part is fully true.

“Neoreactionaries acknowledge the legitimate flaws inherent to Democracies and are ‘predisposed, in any case, to perceive the politically awakened masses as a howling irrational mob, it conceives the dynamics of democratization as fundamentally degenerative: systematically consolidating and exacerbating private vices, resentments, and deficiencies until they reach the level of collective criminality and comprehensive social corruption.'”

This section is a rather blatant call for authoritarianism. Do I even need to say why that’s bad? I hope not!

“A system of No Voice-Free Exit in large hyper-federalist states or small independent city states is the optimal political arrangement. Singapore is an imprecise example with little political voice, but massive economic freedom and high levels of prosperity. City-states would be in constant competition for minds and business and risk losing economically valuable citizens and businesses if poorly run since they can easily relocate. This creates an incentive to remain economically and socially free.”

Do you honestly think that these undemocratic city-states would just let people come and go as they please? That’s not how undemocratic leaders think.

“Neoreactionaries accept human biological diversity. Individual humans and human groups differ in ability, psychological disposition, intelligence, and other traits for genetic reasons. Genetics can explain 50% or more of the differences in lifetime outcomes within and between human groups. Other factors are minor by comparison.”

Human groups? What are you referring to? Are white people a group? What are white people? Are Russians white? Are Jews white? Are Armenians white? The term “human groups” so vague that it’s worthless. What are you building to? Quit throwing pretentious language at me and get to the point.

“Recognition of HBD necessitates the rejection of the core progressive dogma of egalitarianism. Race and gender are not social constructs and everyone personally experiences that not all men or women are created equal. It is easier to believe in Leprechauns than to believe in egalitarianism.”

If race isn’t a social construct then why is it so hard to define? The different human races come from different parts of the world with different resources. Meanwhile, men and women come from the same parts of the world. You can radically change a man’s behavior by giving him estrogen injections, but melanin injections won’t have any effect on his behavior. Race doesn’t matter. Sex does. That isn’t hypocrisy. It’s science.

The sidebar of r/darkenlightenent is full of cowardly, loaded language. Fortunately, I can see right through it. The neoreactionaries want to create all-white city states. In other words, neoreactionary bulls~~~ is just a pretentious version of National-Anarchism.

The neoreactionaries are trying to convince me that other races are trying to replace civilization with savagery. They fail to explain why that is a bad thing. “Savagery” makes female empowerment impossible.

The neoreactionaries don’t seem to realize that their massive walls of text will not protect civilization when it is taken by women or collapses.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Uintatherium wrote:

“Recognition of HBD necessitates the rejection of the core progressive dogma of egalitarianism. Race and gender are not social constructs and everyone personally experiences that not all men or women are created equal. It is easier to believe in Leprechauns than to believe in egalitarianism.”

If race isn’t a social construct then why is it so hard to define? The different human races come from different parts of the world with different resources. Meanwhile, men and women come from the same parts of the world. You can radically change a man’s behavior by giving him estrogen injections, but melanin injections won’t have any effect on his behavior. Race doesn’t matter. Sex does. That isn’t hypocrisy. It’s science.

The sidebar of r/darkenlightenent is full of cowardly, loaded language. Fortunately, I can see right through it. The neoreactionaries want to create all-white city states. In other words, neoreactionary bulls~~~ is just a pretentious version of National-Anarchism.

While I agree with you partly, until you stated that race is a social construct, it makes me see you in the same light as the reactionaries.

Why blacks are always better in sports? Why we see more black representing sports in a countries that the majorities are white?

Why we see Asian people dominated in games like badminton and table tennis, and Western people dominated in games like tennis?

Different race have different bone structure, body mass, muscle density so Asians who are lighter is better in games like badminton while Heavier build Western are better in games like rugby.

on average, the brains of African-Americans are 5% smaller than the brains of Whites and 6% smaller than East Asians, according to studies of brain weight at autopsy, endocranial volume of empty skulls, head size measurements by the U.S. military and NASA, and two dozen MRI volumetric studies.

That is a genetic trait because even malnourished Asians from poor countries have a larger brain on average than well fed blacks from western countries.

Because unlike sports, you hardly see brain studies in the media, here are the source.

Beals, K. L., Smith, C. L., & Dodd, S. M. (1984). Brain size, cranial morphology, climate, and time machines. Current Anthropology 25, 301–330.

Ho, K. C., Roessmann, U., Straumfjord, J. V., & Monroe, G. (1980). Analysis of brain weight: I and II. Archives of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine 104, 635–645.
Johnson F. W. & Jensen (1994). Race and sex differences in head size and IQ. Intelligence 18: 309–33

Rushton JP. (1997). Cranial size and IQ in Asian Americans from birth to age seven. Intelligence 25: 7–20.

Rushton JP (1991). Mongoloid-Caucasoid differences in brain size from military samples [and NASA]. Intelligence 15: 351–9.

Sure there are Asians that are better then Western in sport and there are Blacks that are smarter then Asians in mathematics, on the average certain race is batter in some things and bad in other things.

And yes, race in not define by biology alone, there are cultural difference that make one race behave differently from another, so there is a social element. Race is define by their biology and social element both.

To say race is just a social construct outright and race does not matter is wrong.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[RoyDalParticipant]

To say race is just a social construct outright and race does not matter is wrong.

I agree.

Furthermore, even behavior is less of a social construct than most people realize. The studies done on identical twins separated at birth have proven that.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[TuneoutParticipant]

Uintatherium wrote:

“Neoreactionaries acknowledge the legitimate flaws inherent to Democracies and are ‘predisposed, in any case, to perceive the politically awakened masses as a howling irrational mob, it conceives the dynamics of democratization as fundamentally degenerative: systematically consolidating and exacerbating private vices, resentments, and deficiencies until they reach the level of collective criminality and comprehensive social corruption.’”

While I do agree that democracy while flawed is a better choice than authoritarianism,most voters are ignorant fools.Even Churchill said the best case against democracy is talking to your average voter for five minutes.

Uintatherium wrote:

Race and gender are not social constructs a

Surprising coming from a right wing group because it plays into the LGBTQ thinking.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Uintatherium wrote:

Hi everyone. Today I want to talk about r/darkenlightenment. It is the official subreddit

Stopped reading at reddit.

[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

Okay, different races have different bone structure and body mass.
Does any of this justify the creation of a separate white nation-state? I don’t think so.

We might as well deport everyone with a certain body mass or bone density.

The differences between the races are too small to justify enforced legal separatism. Nothing can possibly justify neoreactionary authoritarianism.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[Anonymous 3]

Stopped at ““Secular progressivism is the memetic descendent of Puritan Calvinism”.

Um, nope. Maybe they should have read some Calvinists. It’s the Roman church they’re thinking of. Nice try, though.

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