The Matrix of Tribal Identity

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

TFL did this video, and I am not sure if it was posted (I did search), but I thought it was worth viewing:

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Fantastic vid from TFL. Thanks for the share.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

good video

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I do see MGTOW thought leading in this direction, because once you realize one system society tells you to be part of doesn’t work, then you begin to question everything.  There is charges thrown at MGTOW they are losers when it comes to women.  A reply I have is, does it matter whether a man can succeed at a game or not, if you rig the system so that it works against him?  Whether he plays well or not, doesn’t matter, if the game sucks.  And I am seeing a ton of things that don’t work.  This video puts into a broader perspective.

I am now thinking about the Matrix concept and seeing it as collective understanding of an artificial reality used to overcome nature.  Without having a matrix of thought, a person can go insane.  It is very possible we are witnessing a lot of mental health issues, because the matrix of perception we had in the past, we can’t get to work now, so you find you don’t fit it, and it doesn’t work, and you are done.  I see MGTOW as a starting point to regain sanity against all that.  Now, I just need to manifest a better reality for myself.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Related to this, is what I saw was laid out in the book, State of Fear:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Fear

In it, one of the characters talks about how society is held together by a common fear.  I believe after the Cold War ended, society lost nuclear war with Russians as something to hold society together and have some commonality.  I believe the right jumped all over terrorist, and the left got into global warming/climate change.  I think also, you are now seeing the zombie apocalypse and fear of a technological disaster (and loss of individual identity) as also being here, as there is grips on the next evil to jump on and be scared of.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[QcummerParticipant 652]

so…there’s leaders, and there’s followers??

I’d rather be a dick than a swallower.

“New Slaves” by Kanye West

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Qcummer wrote:

so…there’s leaders, and there’s followers?? I’d rather be a dick than a swallower. “New Slaves” by Kanye West

This song?

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[RoyDalParticipant]

TFL nails it, as usual.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[QcummerParticipant 652]

yes. He also plainly states, “I know that pussy ain’t free”…wise man he is.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

RoyDal wrote:

TFL nails it, as usual.

And that is near the place where I first made contact with MGTOW.  It is the initial reality of being a single male, to seeing these frames of mind, completely undermining me, and my attempt to fit in not working for me.  I think it will be interesting to see how many men who got into MGTOW over problems with women, go further and see the issue being much deeper in nature.  Seeing screwage in one place has to lead to observation to other areas.

I am now thinking about what causes this Matrix and how to deal with it.  I think a fear of death of the species likely drives it.

Well, I do I hope I found the right forum on here for these.  If I find other good ones, I will post them here.

 

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[uncle_malkyParticipant 8]

I think it could be very beneficial to have a small tribe, in which all members are conscious of their tribalism. A groups of guys who live near each other organize themselves to help each other out (as we do already to some extent online.) Rules and boundaries could be discussed and decided upon so that nobody feels unfairly exploited and everyone could benefit. Though I know many MGTOW are fiercely individualistic and of the Libertarian persuasion, i just posit this as a positive way to channel our natural tribal tendancies.

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