The IQ Of The Little Head vs. The Big Head

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Two points of contention.

The set up. Turd Flinging Monkey pointed out that any study that shows that women’s demonstrated IQ is higher than men’s always includes 12 to 13 year old women. It is a biological fact that women go through puberty at an earlier age. As a result they experience an earlier brain development than men. When in reality, studies that exclude this population demonstrate that it is men that have an overall higher IQ. When men and women are 17 years old, studies show that men have caught up, and have started to surpass women. What a lot of people don’t know is that brain development continues in to the early to mid-twenties. So you can say in so far as IQ testing, more smarticles go to the men during this time.

First. An argument that I have listened to and participated in over and over again is that women mature faster, and as a result are more prepared for adult life than men. In my generation, a boy’s development was centered on learning to compete and work for a living. Thus preparing us for a life of vaginal and corporate bondage. A woman’s development was centered not only having a job, but children. As boys, we were programmed to be men that took care of a wife and children. As girls, they were programmed to be a woman that takes care children while the husband provides for her and children. If we were to use the benchmark of selflessness, who is more mature?

Second. The little head thinking for the big head. This is the phrase used when men are discussing a man getting his girlfriend knocked up. In the manosphere, we acknowledge that women are the gatekeepers to the pussy, and they know when the pussy is fertile. As a result, pregnancy is premeditated act, with victimhood as the defense. So in reality we see that a woman exercising her one immutable social worth (baby rabies) at the expense of someone else. Her little head thinking for the big head. Or in her case, the taco doing the thinking for the burrito. Now I know that since women get pregnant on purpose, this doesn’t apply. However, it makes for great shaming language during those times you can’t resist shutting some yammering woman up.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

First. An argument that I have listened to and participated in over and over again is that women mature faster, and as a result are more prepared for adult life than men.

People mature physically, intellectually, and emotionally (psychologically). Females mature physically earlier. However, as you correctly point out, intellectually they do not mature better than males. It is in the emotional and psychological area that females do not appear to mature like men. Over and over in the posts their childish, immature, and infantile behavior is shown at ALL ages.

I have posted the criteria for psychological maturity below previously on other messages, but here it is again. Ellis, Fromm, Dreikurs, etc. were prominent persons in the area of psychotherapy. Males compete and learn through feedback in sports and male interactions appear to behave more in concert with these criteria. Women are in competition with one another not as often as in teams and from the accounts in these postings and my own observations for over 73 years, females do not mature as early as males.

Dr. Albert Ellis had a Ph.D degree in psychotherapy and wrote many books on Rational Emotive Therapy.

On the basis of twenty years of clinical experience, and in basic agreement with most of my professional colleagues (such as Brasten, 1961; Dreikurs, 1955; Fromm, 1955; Goldstein 1954; Maslow, 1954, Rogers, 1957; and Thorne, 1961), I would say that the psychotherapist tries to help his patients to be minimally anxious and hostile; and to this end, he tries to help them to acquire the following kind of personality traits:

Self-interest. The emotionally healthy individual should primarily be true to himself and not masochistically sacrifice himself for others. His kindness and consideration for others should be derived from the idea that he himself wants to enjoy freedom form unnecessary pain and restriction, and that he is only likely to do so by helping create a world in which the rights of others, as well as his own, are not needlessly curtailed.
Self-direction. He should assume responsibility for his own life, be able independently to work out his own problems, and while at times wanting or preferring the cooperation and help of others, not need their support for his effectiveness and well-being.
Tolerance. He should fully give other human beings the right to be wrong; and while disliking or abhorring some of their behavior, still not blame them, as persons, for performing this dislikeable behavior. He should accept the fact that all humans are remarkably fallible, never unrealistically expect them to be perfect, and refrain from despising or punishing them when they make inevitable mistakes and errors.
Acceptance of uncertainty. The emotionally mature individual should completely accept the fact that we live in a world of probability and chance, where there are not, nor probably ever will be, any absolute certainties, and should realize that it is not at all horrible, indeed—such a probabilistic, uncertain world.
Flexibility. He should remain intellectually flexible, be open to change at all times, and unbigotedly view the infinitely varied people, ideas, and things in the world around him.
Scientific thinking. He should be objective, rational and scientific; and be able to apply the laws of logic and of scientific method not only to external people and events, but to himself and his interpersonal relationships.
Commitment. He should be vitally absorbed in something outside of himself, whether it be people, things, or ideas; and should preferably have at least one major creative interest, as well as some outstanding human involvement, which is highly important to him, and around which he structures a good part of his life.
Risk-taking. The emotionally sound person should be able to take risks, to ask himself what he really would like to do in life, and then to try to do this, even though he has to risk defeat or failure. He should be adventurous (though not necessarily foolhardy); be willing to try almost anything once, just to see how he likes it; and look forward to some breaks in his usual life routines.
Self-acceptance. He should normally be glad to be alive, and to like himself just because he is alive, because he exists, and because he (as a living being) invariably has some power to enjoy himself, to create happiness and joy. He should not equate his worth or value to himself on his extrinsic achievements, or on what others think of him, but on his personal existence; on his ability to think, feel, and act, and thereby to make some kind of an interesting, absorbed life for himself.

In courtship and mate selection, women are given the power of selection and rejection. They appear to resort to mostly to choosing men who most give them romantic feelings. Feelings are not reasons. This way of choosing by romantic feelings is a characteristic of immaturity.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Badger wrote:

Dr. Albert Ellis had a Ph.D

Thank you for this information. I can’t get enough of peer reviewed, sourced information.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

In other words, a psychologically and emotionally mature adult cooperates with other adults and does not use immature and childish behaviors to try to control, dominate, rule, or exploit another person or persons for their sole benefit.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

In his book, Emotional Intelligence, Daniel Goleman (author, psychologist, and science journalist) gave these criteria for emotional maturity.

1.Know what they want and have the capacity to make it happen
2.They have high self-control and think before they act
3.They are self-reliant and have the ability to take responsibility for their actions
4.They have patience and are willing to delay gratification or wait for someone else to do something
5.They have the ability to sustain intimate relationships and establish positive connections with others
6.They are personally generous and have the desire to give and be there for others
7.They have personal integrity as well as law and order integrity
8.They have a sense of balance and equanimity in dealing with stress
9.They have strong personal boundaries and are not boundary invaders – they know where they end and other people begin
10.They can, and do persevere
11.They are decisive and can make decisions – they are not wishy-washy
12.They have humility and the ability to admit when they wrong
13.They are self-reflective and examine their life and make changes where needed – they own up to their mistakes but don’t brood about them
14.They are both self-aware and aware of others
15.They are generally optimistic and positive about life
16.They are not whiners or blamers

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