The Guardian wants to shut down women's prisons.

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Well, here is it. The most retarded thing I read today.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/01/why-we-should-close-womens-prisons-and-treat-their-crimes-more-fairly

[Anonymous 1]

Glad to see the comments, once again in articles like this are shredding it to s~~~. People just ain’t buying this SJW bulls~~~ anymore.

The article is downright f~~~ing dangerous, and the writer should be shot.

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

In the United States women commit only 17% of felonies, while in Australia they commit about 13% of the crimes dealt with in the higher courts.

Women now comprise 8% of prisoners in the United States and Australia

So what he’s arguing is that only 39-53% of convicted female criminals are being given the pussy pass and that that isn’t enough and they all need to be getting it? Where exactly did this guy get his Ph.D?

[Anonymous 1]

BritGHOW wrote:

Where exactly did this guy get his Ph.D?

The school of liberal facism.

one of my favs from the comment section:

“Wow. It’s not often you hear sexism that blatant. And this is the same feminism we should all get behind because it’s good for all of us, right?

In fact, there is already a group who aren’t sent to prison when they commit crimes. They’re called children. They also can’t vote, drive cars, get jobs, own property or enjoy any of the privileges that come with the responsibilities of adulthood. There was a time when the same applied to women, but genuine progressives managed to change it.”

[SmeeParticipant 228]

I thought it was only the retarded UK government that was doing this. They have been trying the same thing using the same spurious and openly sexist arguments since 2011.

Here is a quick read from AVFM, it is accurate:-
UK Governments Sexist Attack on Men

Maybe we need to list all countries where this is happeneiong and since when, just to get an idea of what is really happpening – cos it’s starting to look like a concerted attack

Smee Again

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

The Guardian is worse than the BBC for Feminist propoganda.

It’s a very untimely piece given that other newspapers are running a story about the lesbian couple who murdered their four year old son and then tried to pin the blame on another toddler.

The c~~~s.

[AttonParticipant]

Most women belong in prison.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[EchoesParticipant 92]

At first I thought this article was sarcasm or they only have half of a brain. This is so cringey, I mean even the first line of the article.

Women almost never scare us; commit random acts of serious violence; violate our sexual integrity; or form organised crime networks and yet their prisons numbers are now the highest in recorded history.

Women are terrifying, they manipulate men politically and socially with their sexuality. Even in the thumbnail image above the article is an African-american woman mean mugging the f~~~ out of another woman whos body is physically shifting away from her.

Moreover, when it comes to sexual offences, rounded off to the nearest whole number, women constitute 0% of all offenders – that’s right, zero.

That logic, I can’t even comment on this.

The differences are so stark that not only should women be treated more leniently because they commit less serious crime but they should also be treated more leniently when they commit the same crime as a man.

In other words, not only should women be treated more lenient because women are perceived as less dangerous via sexual dimorphism, they should also be given less of a punishment for the same crime as a man for being a woman.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Smee wrote:

Maybe we need to list all countries where this is happeneiong and since when, just to get an idea of what is really happpening – cos it’s starting to look like a concerted attack

Wait 10 more years, and it will be happening in every country out there.
Why?
Because every country has 50% women that can vote.
They will bend every law out there to meet their downright evil beings.

[narwhalParticipant]

very one of the author’s points are easy to shot down.

First, women are much less likely to reoffend than men. Their recidivism levels are at least 10% lower in both the US and Australia.

So prison seems to be more effective on women then it is on men…so let’s remove the prison sentence? That makes sense how?

Second, when women are imprisoned they suffer more. They have higher rates of mental illness, making it more difficult for them to adapt to and cope with the prison setting. And US studies show that when in prison they are three times more likely to be victims of sexual abuse than male prisoners.

Which is probably a big part of the reason why the recidivism levels are lower. And if they are 3 times more likely to be victims in prison, this means there are some pretty nasty women in prison…and you want them out amongst the rest of us?

Third, society suffers more when we remove a female from it and place her behind a prison wall. More than 50% of incarcerated women are single parents and even in two-parent households, female prisoners typically assume the main child nurturing role. In relation to non-parental dependency, the majority of carers (60%) are females.

F~~~ you. The only reason women play a bigger role in children’s lives is because the law gives HUGE preference to women in parental rights then men. Change that and this issue no longer becomes a problem.

Finally, women are often less culpable when they commit crime. There is a profoundly devastating link between child sexual and violent victimisation and female offending. US studies show that 23% to 37% of female prisoners reported that they had been physically or sexually abused prior to the age of 18. The rate is even higher in Australia. Incarcerating females is often simply a lamentable case of victimising the victimised.

Why is gender an issue here? If a man is less culpable of the crime should he not receive the same treatment you’re suggesting a woman should get? If a woman is fully culpable, should she get the same pass you’re giving women who are less culpable?

Personally, I do think we incarcerate too much. I lean towards legalizing weed and such. However, that’s across the board, not gender related.

I also think if you removed prison for women, then you would see a rise in female crime rates. Not only because they would be less deterred, but because they would be viewed as more valuable in organized crime since they cannot be sent to prison. Why setup a dude to sell your drugs when he can be sent to prison, or worse, turn you in to save his own hide? Use a woman. If she gets caught, she has no incentive to turn you in, and she’s back on the job a couple days later.

Lastly, you have to ask why women commit less crimes then men. Could it be because they don’t need to? They have legal means of stealing money, nor to do they have the social pressure to earn money for a wife and kids.

Ok. Then do it.

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

Interesting, this article throws the equality push out the window. Now I was hoping for a more serious discussion like close all the women’s prisons and make one prison for everyone. Sounds harsh? Don’t be a criminal. Worried about rape? Men in prison worry too.

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

And US studies show that when in prison they are three times more likely to be victims of sexual abuse than male prisoners.

Wait, WHAT? But the writer just said that women constitute 0% of sexual offences!!! I’ve heard of self-contradiction, but this is just insane!!!

It’s profoundly ignorant and shows that the writer is full of s~~~. Furthermore, I don’t give a f~~~ how many nationwide percentages female criminals make up – that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be punished for whatever they’ve done. If we begin a policy of not punishing female criminals, what kind of message do you think that that’s going to send to young girls?! Female children and teenagers everywhere will think, “Holy s~~~, I can commit a crime and not face any jail time because of it!”

And all feminists want is to be treated as equals to men. Yeah, and indeed, RIGHT.

GEE-AWWDD. I should be working on a uni assignment that’s due tomorrow. Instead I became distracted by this. Sometimes I feel like there are so many things that university doesn’t teach me.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

One of the commenters made the point that this writer has a history of trolling, I think that’s what this is. Some superb answers there actually (in the comments, NOT the article!).

[SmeeParticipant 228]

Please be aware that the article is not trolling. Here in the UK, as per the link I placed above the facts are true. The government here has been discussing this since 2011 and the terminology is almost exactly the same as are the conclusions and outcomes.

They have already discussed the proposals and people like Theresa May and the Prison Reform Trust are quite open about their views, see link below:

The Prison Reform Trust, a misandric government body in the UK

Smee Again

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Atton wrote:

Most women belong in prison.

Or in an elementary school as permanent students.

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

narwhal wrote:

Finally, women are often less culpable when they commit crime. There is a profoundly devastating link between child sexual and violent victimisation and female offending. US studies show that 23% to 37% of female prisoners reported that they had been physically or sexually abused prior to the age of 18. The rate is even higher in Australia. Incarcerating females is often simply a lamentable case of victimising the victimised.

Why is gender an issue here? If a man is less culpable of the crime should he not receive the same treatment you’re suggesting a woman should get? If a woman is fully culpable, should she get the same pass you’re giving women who are less culpable?

By the same logic, Male Sexual Offenders who were abused in their childhood ( statistics can be as high as 40% percent according to some studies http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00849717 ) should also be let go of prison.
Ohhhh damn … I forgot it … this article is a blatant double standard …. according to this “PhD” , this logic is only applicable to the “wymynz”. Ohhh yeah, so “wymynz” who abuse their boys and increase the chances of such boy to become a sexual offender should be let off the hook , but not the boy if he ever becomes a sex offender. Wow… It’s quite the rationalism in action , isn’t it ?.

EDIT :
Just for the sake of completeness , read the section “Comparing male and female experiences” Sexual Abuse statistics

and see that … Surprise! Surprise ! male and female sexual offences have very little differences ( there is a slight higher value on female statistics due to female population being slightly higher).

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

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