The Fall Of Section 8

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  • #484248
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    Anonymous
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    Real interesting to see that US Census Report in 2020. What will the divorce numbers look like. Have they gone up? What’s the percentage of single parents homes, and racial ethnicity percentage?

    That will truly tell us where this country is headed. Is marriage on its last leg, and about to be outdated? If guys no longer fall for marriage, how will the women get their welfare? Could personal responsibility be in the coming future? These are all the questions I have.

    Hell i’m about to have a Master’s degree. With a career, a home, and handling my own affairs, like so many of the guys here, we’re basically putting targets on ourselves by succeeding and minding our own business. The women don’t want us for us, they want us for what we have.

    #484251
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    Sidecar
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    Anything debt or liability can be canceled by government with sovereign authority.

    Nope. Not debt. Greece learned that lesson the hard way. The government can welch on its debts, refusing to pay them, but that government will never be trusted by any lender ever again, thereby depowering it. And if the government tries to repay its debts through inflating its currency to nothingness, it will have effectively robbed its citizens of their savings and equity leaving it facing revolution, dissolution, and insolvency.

    No government in debt is truly sovereign.

    #484256
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    Swimcat
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    Feminism is bringing down western civilization and everyone with it, once they start dying because of famine, harsh environment and deceases, there will be no chad to rescue them….Life always has to weed out the bottom feeders when there are too many of them.

    This became evident after hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. The rest of the Gulf Coast residents left and survived the hurricane. But those receiving welfare New Orleans decided to stay.

    After the hurricane there was flooding and no services. There were documented cases of those on welfare going to high ground such as bridges and their sitting their, waiting for someone to help them to the point of dying, with these people not trying to save themselves.

    These people are so pathetic they do not know how to live beyond sucking at the government tit.

    Katrina proved two things.
    1. How many people in the U.S.are absolutley dependent on the government for their very survival.
    2. Who would live and who would die in the event of a long term disaster, or long term breakdown of the government.

    #484257
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    Anonymous
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    And also, America owns the bulk of our debt. With China and Europe owning the rest of it. This is what happens when we have wars we cannot afford and government policies that bankrupt us. At some point, we have to have a serious conversation about Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and the other entitlement programs. At the rate its going now, millennials will not have any social security to look forward to.

    Entitlements were always meant to be a hand-up, not a handout. But what happens when you have people go generations, after generations using food stamps and welfare and unemployment? You get an entitlement bubble that becomes to big to control. The founders wanted everybody to pull their own weight and be smart enough to handle their own affairs. But Americans are not smart enough to do that. Entitlements are too engrained in our society to ever be done away with. Hell, Obamacare was gonna be another entitlement!!!

    Now there are people who genuinely need to help. And I understand that, things get tough sometimes, and you need help to get you through until your able to get back on your feet. This is understandable.

    What I’m talking about, are the people who look forward to get government assistance. The guys who don’t want to work, so they get on unemployment. The women who don’t wanna do anything in life but be taken care of, so they pop out a kid every few years. Knowing that the more kids they have, the more assistance they will receive. This is the kind of thinking that can regress a population, look at the black community for evidence of that.

    #484265
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    Anonymous
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    Feminism is bringing down western civilization and everyone with it, once they start dying because of famine, harsh environment and deceases, there will be no chad to rescue them….Life always has to weed out the bottom feeders when there are too many of them.

    This became evident after hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. The rest of the Gulf Coast residents left and survived the hurricane. But those receiving welfare New Orleans decided to stay.

    After the hurricane there was flooding and no services. There were documented cases of those on welfare going to high ground such as bridges and their sitting their, waiting for someone to help them to the point of dying, with these people not trying to save themselves.

    These people are so pathetic they do not know how to live beyond sucking at the government tit.

    Katrina proved two things.
    1. How many people in the U.S.are absolutley dependent on the government for their very survival.
    2. Who would live and who would die in the event of a long term disaster

    You ever watched The Purge??

    It didn’t bring up the reasoning for the Purge in the first movie, but in the second movie, they discussed why the Purge had been put in place by the government. The Purge was created so the government could kill everybody that received government assistance.Think about all the money we would save as a country, by NOT paying entitlements. Hell last year, we paid $85 Billion dollars to house, and feed illegal immigrants. And people are bitching about a wall!!

    It is shocking how many people are absolutely dependent on the government for their very survival. And that comes from decades of bad decisions, and the generations after them making the same bad choices. If your born poor, that’s not your fault. But if you die poor, that is YOUR fault. I dont know about you guys, but when I work for something, no matter how big or small it is, I appreciate it more when i know the hard work that was put in to get it.

    These guys nowadays don’t believe in hard work, that’s why they always jump at the liberals when they offer to give out free stuff. Free health care, free college, free food, free housing, and meanwhile, the national debt triples. I just don’t understand these people. But i do pay attention to them, don’t be mad at them. Find a way to monetize their stupidity. Make money off of them and laugh.

    #484342
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    Joetech
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    Cataphract, yeah. Section 8 is public housing for welfare mommies with kids from umpteen different fathers. In my day, we called it “the projects”.

    "Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

    #484350
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    Faust For Science
    Faust For Science
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    22521

    Greece learned that lesson the hard way. The government can welch on its debts, refusing to pay them, but that government will never be trusted by any lender ever again,

    Greece is a poor example for several reasons. It is likely not taught in school, but during the Cold War, Greece was in the middle of a bitter, bloody proxy civil war between the soviets against the UK and US. The side supported by the soviets lost. After that, the UK and US forces clamped down on political views in Greece.

    Greece stopped being a democracy long before the nation joined the E.U.

    Greece also does not have a government. Greece has sycophants loyal to the E.U. globalists. This is proven in the fact the E.U. has been able to replace the Greece government official, in elected positions, with their puppets, without holding elections.

    This whole lender-debt s~~~ is just that. S~~~. Politicians accept bribes to take loans from banks which the politicians turn around give the money from these loans back to banks. The loans never benefit the people. It is a con.

    Nationalism is about a nation being independent. Before the globalist policies start to hit hard after World War II, most nations on Earth grew their own food, made their own products and tools, and were able to function fine with no outside help. If these nations did not function fine, their populations would revolt and replace the government.

    Usually, when debt is canceled by a government, a new currency is issue by that government to replace the old currency, with only citizens of that country about to have their old currency with the new currency. This gets rid of the inflation by cutting out the foreigners holing most of the inflated currency which is made worthless.

    Katrina proved two things.
    1. How many people in the U.S.are absolutley dependent on the government for their very survival.
    2. Who would live and who would die in the event of a long term disaster, or long term breakdown of the government.

    The aftermath of hurricane Katrina was a real eye opener.

    #484351
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    Medicare, Social Security, and the other entitlement programs

    Those two right there ^^^^also need cuts but the problem for some reason is they cant be touch! Try pitching a bill with a penny less and people go crazy. At some point the government has to leave the people to be accountable for their own lives. Venom I know you’re good at this political stuff so please explain to me how the hell can they pull cuts from these two entitlements? Curious minds want to know.

    Never lose sight of what brought you here.

    #484362
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    Anonymous
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    Medicare, Social Security, and the other entitlement programs

    Those two right there ^^^^also need cuts but the problem for some reason is they cant be touch! Try pitching a bill with a penny less and people go crazy. At some point the government has to leave the people to be accountable for their own lives. Venom I know you’re good at this political stuff so please explain to me how the hell can they pull cuts from these two entitlements? Curious minds want to know.

    Man the policy would be easy. You could raise the age of social security eligibility. You could make it more difficult to receive government assistance. You could drug test welfare recipients. You could make welfare recipients have to mandatory community service for a set amount of hours per week. (People won’t want to do work for free, when they can get a job and get paid for those hours.) People are living longer nowadays but baby boomers are getting up there in age, and their healthcare costs are going to be the bulk of the money spent.

    Policy isn’t a problem, the problem is, NO POLITICIAN WOULD TOUCH THIS WITH A TEN FOOT POLE!!!

    You even mention entitlement reform, and you may not get re-elected. You may have some congressmen who want to get reform done, but they have to work with other Congressmen who are from states where entitlements are the bread & butter of their constituents. Those congressmen are not going to go home and tell their people that he plans to vote to reform entitlements, which may result in some of them losing their benefits. He would be voted out on the first train smoking.

    So to answer your question, lots of things can be done to fix it. But it would come at a very big cost politically, that nobody on Capitol Hill can afford to make. Not even the President has enough political capitol to justify touching entitlements. Did you notice that all throughout the election, neither Hillary nor Trump or anybody else, spoke one word about entitlement reform? It’s a losing battle.

    Plus if one party decided to go full speed ahead with entitlement reform. There’s always a chance that the voters revolt and vote that party out of office. Then the opposite party would be in power, and they will bring up NEW entitlements to appease the p~~~ed off voters.

    #484383
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    Sidecar
    sidecar
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    Greece stopped being a democracy long before the nation joined the E.U.

    Irrelevant. Democracy and sovereignty are two different things.

    This is proven in the fact the E.U. has been able to replace the Greece government official, in elected positions, with their puppets, without holding elections.

    Because Greece is in debt to them.

    Like I said: No government in debt is truly sovereign.

    Usually, when debt is canceled by a government, a new currency is issue by that government to replace the old currency, with only citizens of that country about to have their old currency with the new currency.

    Which never actually works.

    #484392

    Medicare, Social Security, and the other entitlement programs

    Those two right there ^^^^also need cuts but the problem for some reason is they cant be touch! Try pitching a bill with a penny less and people go crazy. At some point the government has to leave the people to be accountable for their own lives. Venom I know you’re good at this political stuff so please explain to me how the hell can they pull cuts from these two entitlements? Curious minds want to know.

    Man the policy would be easy. You could raise the age of social security eligibility. You could make it more difficult to receive government assistance. You could drug test welfare recipients. You could make welfare recipients have to mandatory community service for a set amount of hours per week. (People won’t want to do work for free, when they can get a job and get paid for those hours.) People are living longer nowadays but baby boomers are getting up there in age, and their healthcare costs are going to be the bulk of the money spent.

    Policy isn’t a problem, the problem is, NO POLITICIAN WOULD TOUCH THIS WITH A TEN FOOT POLE!!!

    You even mention entitlement reform, and you may not get re-elected. You may have some congressmen who want to get reform done, but they have to work with other Congressmen who are from states where entitlements are the bread & butter of their constituents. Those congressmen are not going to go home and tell their people that he plans to vote to reform entitlements, which may result in some of them losing their benefits. He would be voted out on the first train smoking.

    So to answer your question, lots of things can be done to fix it. But it would come at a very big cost politically, that nobody on Capitol Hill can afford to make. Not even the President has enough political capitol to justify touching entitlements. Did you notice that all throughout the election, neither Hillary nor Trump or anybody else, spoke one word about entitlement reform? It’s a losing battle.

    Plus if one party decided to go full speed ahead with entitlement reform. There’s always a chance that the voters revolt and vote that party out of office. Then the opposite party would be in power, and they will bring up NEW entitlements to appease the p~~~ed off voters.

    So it’s a dog chasing it’s tail politics? Those two programs are crippling the budget and if some how some way they can at least carve into them progress can be made. At some point this system has to be repelled because its unsustainable. When you say “voters” are you meaning men and women or women wont agree to reform? I think you can pitch to men that they will be on the hook for their own retirements and refund them what they have already put in the system to invest, but women on the other hand…I dont know. I saw a pie chart of the federal budget and the lion share goes to these entitlements so if no politician wants to touch them how can the system ever be changed?

    Never lose sight of what brought you here.

    #484421
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    Zuberi Tau
    Zuberi Tau
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    Good video as usual. Are they giving any particular reason why they keep censoring your videos on YouTube? Your videos are the only ones that I have seen this done to. Seems very strange to me and a bit overly selective for reasons that I cannot fathom.

    It’s not just my videos, they do the same s~~~ to other black youtubers.
    TJ Sotomayor had his channeled flagged down three times for speaking the truth as to whose responsible for most of the mayhem that goes on in the black community.

    #484473
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    Sidecar
    sidecar
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    It’s not just my videos, they do the same s~~~ to other black youtubers.

    It’s not just on youtube. You can expect them to backstab any black man anywhere who doesn’t fall for their crab bucket bulls~~~.

    #484693
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    Faust For Science
    Faust For Science
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    22521

    Irrelevant. Democracy and sovereignty are two different things.

    You are not listening.

    Greece is a nation without a government and whom is controlled by foreign powers. If the Greek people rose up and installed a new government they can use sovereignty to abolish all debts and nationalize all foreign held property in Greece.

    This has happened before in a number of nations going back hundreds of years.

    While the E.U. may invade with troops over the matter, the Greek people have the right to protect the sovereignty of their nation and themselves.

    #484708
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Real interesting to see that US Census Report in 2020.

    Will be real interesting to see Trump re-elected too, by the very people who “protest” today.

    Could personal responsibility be in the coming future?

    They have to wake up first. This was a wake up call.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #484714
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    Shadow1275
    Shadow1275
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    Real interesting to see that US Census Report in 2020. What will the divorce numbers look like. Have they gone up? What’s the percentage of single parents homes, and racial ethnicity percentage?

    That will truly tell us where this country is headed. Is marriage on its last leg, and about to be outdated? If guys no longer fall for marriage, how will the women get their welfare? Could personal responsibility be in the coming future? These are all the questions I have.

    Hell i’m about to have a Master’s degree. With a career, a home, and handling my own affairs, like so many of the guys here, we’re basically putting targets on ourselves by succeeding and minding our own business. The women don’t want us for us, they want us for what we have.

    Personal Responsibility that’s rich.

    And also impossible for Women, who have relied on Men for Millennia and therefore have no concept of responsibility.

    Debt is a great example of this. Before women had the right to vote America was a mainly debt free society where everything was bought and paid for.

    Now you have to take out loans and credit cards on everything.

    What will happen is simple. It’s serial escalation. Women guilt men into letting them vote, Blue pill simps and kind men give them the right to vote. Women pull the divorce equality strings, Men institute no fault divorce. Women complain that Men are simply abandoning them after their marriage cools down (Bc marriage becomes a s~~~ deal), Men institute welfare and alimony payments. Women complain that men are no longer marrying them and just “Co-habiting” for sex (Bc Marriage is essentially putting your head on a guillotine stand and handing her the ropes), Men institute Yes means Yes and Rape Culture laws.

    Women complain that men aren’t men bc they aren’t spending their time and resources on Women at all and going MGTOW bc the guillotine has expanded to include even walking by a Women and consent can be changed to rape months after the fact?

    Women vote in politicians who promise to institute a Bachelor tax, bring in more immigrants to prop up welfare programs for Women, or simply vote to take half a man’s paycheck and put it into a Women’s “Security” Fund.

    Funny thing about programs like Social Security and Welfare, they really screw over the Future generations who eventually can’t afford to support older generations. Unfortunate too, is when they fail the Geezers are the first to die.

    In a pure Democracy, the Tyranny of the Majority simply erodes everything. We were a MASCULINE REPUBLIC for a REASON. NOT A DEMOCRATIC GYNOCRACY.

    He who is Brave is Free - Seneca

    #484862
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    Samsquanch
    Samsquanch
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    Good video as usual. Are they giving any particular reason why they keep censoring your videos on YouTube? Your videos are the only ones that I have seen this done to. Seems very strange to me and a bit overly selective for reasons that I cannot fathom.

    It’s not just my videos, they do the same s~~~ to other black youtubers.
    TJ Sotomayor had his channeled flagged down three times for speaking the truth as to whose responsible for most of the mayhem that goes on in the black community.

    They also just suspended Kid Organic, who posted the related video of the woman showing the letter about her getting booted from Sec. 8.

    #484893
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    Sidecar
    sidecar
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    35837

    If the Greek people rose up and installed a new government they can use sovereignty to abolish all debts and nationalize all foreign held property in Greece.

    No. They can’t. They really can’t.

    They tried exactly that two years ago voting for Tsipras and Syriza. It didn’t work.

    This has happened before in a number of nations going back hundreds of years.

    Right before those countries collapse.

    the Greek people have the right to protect the sovereignty of their nation and themselves.

    The Greek people have a responsibility to pay off their debts first. Until they do that, they have no sovereignty and no rights. They sold that when they took their creditors’ money. Did you think that was free money that comes without a price?

    This is why nations should never, ever run a deficit or go into debt. The moment they do that they stop being true nations and become mere debtors.

    #484901
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    Sidecar
    sidecar
    Participant
    35837

    I heard from an old friend this morning that my mother is suddenly desperately trying to find me. Just as section 8 is being trimmed.

    Coincidence? I doubt it.

    #484913
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    I heard from an old friend this morning that my mother is suddenly desperately trying to find me. Just as section 8 is being trimmed.

    Coincidence? I doubt it.

    wow.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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