Based on what I know about the economy and so on, to be able to really go anywhere big in life, you aren’t going to get it by following the crowd and being normal.  You have to be exceptional, and either sell what you have of value, or be in an area of natural demand and be above and beyond.  This exceptional state of being requires  dedication, and not doing what other people do.  It requires sacrifice, and not following everyone else.  One has to go their own way to get there.  It means putting up with more pain, rejection, and changing of a personal life.  Go with the crowd, think you do college and get a corporate job and you are set?  Think you get the wife and do the family?  Well, you are at increased risk of not making it.

There was a time, I would say I guest post-World War II, where you could off and be middle class, and the economy took care of yourself.  You could be a bread winner, have the dependent wife at home, and raise kids, and do the non-MGTOW thing.  Oh, you would see James Bond and aspire to have that.  You would watch sports and do the dream.  You would complain about the so-so state of things.  Of course, in this, that was if you were White and had college.

Well, what happened with the 1960s and onward is that people began to get away from this one income family and the wife entered the workforce and worked.  You see wages for the middle class flatlined in the 1970s.  You can’t do the one income any longer, and raise a family, and not max out your credit cards.  It just can’t happen.  With the wife working, you end up with what seems to be more “equal” relationships.  To some degree it can be seen as that, but what it means is people with their own money, feeling somewhat more free and feeling that what they have is theirs.  And you raise the kids with daycare and so on.  And that is IF the family stays together.  The wife can leave, and someone is getting alimony. These old rules of the traditional marriage doesn’t really work, unless one wants to become less of a person, and supposedly live on this “love” you are to get.  Kids are supposed to be all that.

Well, now we are with the Internet.  If you are top at what you do, commit to your craft, even if it means forgoing social norms, and be a success.  You can do it alone, just be exceptional at it.  And that requires one to go their own way.  Globalization also had an impact to scale things to.

I am sure I had more, but I think I touched on the main points. Feel free to comment below.

As far as marriage goes though…unless you are marrying someone that makes like 200k+ a year and wants you to be a stay at home dad after you knock her up…F~~~ NO…do not ever get married, the potential to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars in a divorce is not worth the meager tax benefits you might get for it.

It raises some interesting statistics, also a few fembots on the panel as usual.

Solid Snake, remind me again why someone has issue with a guy going MGTOW, based on what is in the video?

Its not so much of an issue presented in there but it talks about families, single parents, statistics with $$$ figures, its just an interesting perspective comparing USA of 2015 USA to 1950s USA with some man hating in there from one of the panel members.

Interesting observation is that the most damaging situation to children is an unhappy marriage situation with conflict, according to them its hands down the worst situation for their upbringing than kids from single parents or divorced parents.

One of the figures in there is it costs $225,000 to raise a child, $225,000 buys you a house in a regional area or a f~~~ing nice car.

Economic advantages indeed, thats the bare minimum saving, what happens if you had the child, then had the divorce and had to pay child support/”alimony”, lose 50% of your s~~~ at a minimum or it turns nasty and you end up spending some time in jail through no fault of your own.

I’m not from the USA but I’m from your 51st state (Australia) lol.

The UK national average salary is currently £27,200 a year, about 21,600 after income tax and national insurance are deducted.

Assume that our victim is paid that salary over the course of his life and that all else remains even for convenience and that he was dumb enough to get married at 21.

Between “what’s mine is mine and what’s his is ours” while married, and child support and alimony in the event of a divorce and this guy could potentially end up paying out half his lifetime earnings or £432,000 by the time he retires at 60, worse still, had he been able to save/invest that money at a conservative trend of 5% a year it would have compounded to £1.3 million in the same time and pay him an income in retirement of over £65,000 a year.