The American Indian way.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

I am only 1/10th Tsalagi (Cherokee) but as a child, lived in Oklahoma and my dad was an Oakie. One of them talked to my dad and made a good point. He said:

“Look an the indian way of life. The man rode a horse, hunted, fished and got pussy anytime he wanted it, sometimes from more than one wife. He never paid taxes, never had to worry about getting fired or laid off and had no wish to quit what he did because he loved it. His woman did the cooking, took care of the children, tended to the garden and did all the work needed at home while her man went hunting and fishing. She was held at high esteem and honored. She remained faithful because her husband was her only source for meat and many materials badly needed. Then came white man and he thought he could improve on a system like that…”.

My brothers, I think we really f~~~ed up big time. We called them “savages” but read that again.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

Astro wrote:

“Look an the indian way of life. The man rode a horse, hunted, fished and got pussy anytime he wanted it, sometimes from more than one wife. He never paid taxes, never had to worry about getting fired or laid off and had no wish to quit what he did because he loved it.

Let us talk about the indian way of life for men. They are constantly on the move, constantly working, he is responsible for making sure the tribe ate, he is not sure if he was going eat the next day, there was always the chance he would be hunting while the rest of the tribe left and he would return to find his tribe gone, he was the grunt in any defense for the tribe, and if he p~~~ed off the tribal women, or the tribal elders he would either be killed, or exiled from the tribe.

You believe gynocentrism is bad in this society. Gynocentrism is far worse in tribal nomadic groups.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

Faust For Science wrote:

Let us talk about the indian way of life for men. They are constantly on the move, constantly working, he is responsible for making sure the tribe ate, he is not sure if he was going eat the next day, there was always the chance he would be hunting while the rest of the tribe left and he would return to find his tribe gone, he was the grunt in any defense for the tribe, and if he p~~~ed off the tribal women, or the tribal elders he would either be killed, or exiled from the tribe.

Food was abundant, especially when they had buffalo (Bison). Buffalo herds were sometimes large enough to cover four states. It was low in cholesterol and fat and far superior to beef. White man killed them off just for their tounge and left the rest to rot. We killed them off to starve the American Indian as well and it worked. The American Indian used every part of the buffalo for every need they had. We replaced them with beef and have paid the price in our health ever since. No tribe wanted to sneak off and leave a warrior because warriors were needed to fight other tribes. The system worked for more years than we know.
As I said: Women were highly honored but that was a time they deserved honor, certainly more than the feminists of today. They had far more to bring to the table than the worthless women we have now. Today men are still the grunts and if you don’t think so, just look at our military. Are women drafted during war? Women are there but the vast majority are men. I know because I am a veteran.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

Astro wrote:

Food was abundant, especially when they had buffalo (Bison).

Not during winter. And you left out that tribes warred with each other. And many tribes practiced slavery.

In some placed in American, where there indians were not nomadic, they were like the beginnings of the city-states, like during the time of Ancient Greece.

Astro wrote:

They had far more to bring to the table than the worthless women we have now.

Well to be honest, western women have set the bar so low, the bar is beneath the floor.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Speaking about American Indians, one of my favourite American Indian songs is Tatanka.

For those who don’t know, the word “Tatanka” refers to the buffalo. The buffalo, according to the American Indians (Lakota culture), is an “older brother”.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[Anonymous 42]

I’m 1/8th native American, just add alcohol an I explode!

[AstroParticipant 2045]

Faust For Science wrote:

No during winter. And you left out that tribes warred with each other

No I didn’t, I said: “No tribe wanted to sneak off and leave a warrior because warriors were needed to fight other tribes”. During winter, the meat was cured and that is how we discovered jerky and cured ham. I know America was by no means a utopia before white man arrived. Tribes fought each other often but also made alliances, like the Sioux, Apache and others. Meanwhile in the old world, others were fighting continuously as well. That wasn’t my point. I was talking about a system that I think was better than we have now. They had no SJW’s blaming men for their problems. Crime was much lower because the penalties were much harsher. The American Indians were not perfect by any means but who was? They were more at peace with earth than what we have now. They respected mother earth far better than we do and respected what they hunted. We are more “Civilized” but that only means we don’t use spears to kill, we can wipe out entire cities with just one weapon.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Astro wrote:

respected what they hunted.

Exactly. Not being too greedy and not trying to “profit” from it.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

For those who don’t know, the word “Tatanka” refers to the buffalo. The buffalo, according to the American Indians (Lakota culture), is an “older brother”.

Damn that was good and undeniably Lakota Sioux. I was born in Nebraska and have been to Wounded Knee in South Dakota. Fantastic skies at night but a sad history. I am a southerner but know where I came from. Thank you for sharing that.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Astro wrote:

Thank you for sharing that.

You are most welcome brother.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[Anonymous 14]

Hey Sparky, you ever seen the movie Wizards from 1977?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076929/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

I was watching it again last night for about the 10th time, your post made me think about it as it is about Technology vs Nature basically. And how Technology is used by men to dominate and enslave other men and how the only good technology is actually nature. Many advancements in Technology come from war, the flip side is that many medical advancements have also come from war.

I would tend to agree that life without all the man made s~~~ that is used to mostly dominate and profit is indeed much better for everyone and everything, with medical advancement being the exception of course.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Astro wrote:

Damn that was good and undeniably Lakota Sioux

I like this version better. It starts at 32:33

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

I like this version better. It starts at 32:33

WOW! I like the entire thing. It puts my soul at peace and yet it rocks. I could listen to this all day long, especially when I am out observing with my telescopes at night. Thank you for sharing this brother, it brings the small amount of indian blood I have out to dance.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Astro wrote:

telescopes at night

Awesome! Here in Australia, back in 1996, I was lucky enough to see through a giant telescope in a space observatory! I saw Neptune. A big beautiful blue orb.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

Awesome! Here in Australia, back in 1996, I was lucky enough to see through a giant telescope in a space observatory! I saw Neptune. A big beautiful blue orb.

I have logged more than a thousand objects, which still makes me a beginner. If the universe was the size of the earth, I have seen but a small shaving. I started the Knoxville Observers and in the Astronomical League, started the Master Observers (You can find my credit at the bottom of the page) and MONET. It started 6 other observing awards in the Astronomical League that blew my doors off. Like Patrick Stewart said: “The Universe is not just more than we imagine, it is more than we CAN imagine!” It is my religion and it is far larger than all the churches, cathedrals, temples, mosques and synagogues combined will ever dream of being. No one can know God but knowing a sliver of what God created is the best I can do.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Astro wrote:

I started the Knoxville Observers

Saw the website, very cool indeed. You guys are having a lot of fun! Its good to see a fellow MGTOW focus on his passion. In fact at least A LOT of MGTOWs on this site have a passion they are really focusing on. I am not surprised by this fact. There are three other MGTOWs who also pursue what I love, i.e. Electronics Engineering. We are truly lucky and fortunate to have this website and community.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

Saw the website, very cool indeed. You guys are having a lot of fun!

The best is yet to come. On August 21st, we will be viewing a total solar eclipse near Knoxville. I have a telescope with a 6″ mirror and a solar filter to observe with. At totality, I can take the filter off for about three minutes. The Knoxville Observers is now the largest Astronomy club in East Tennessee and meeting near the center of totality: Fort Louden State park. We expect thousands to join us from as far away as Maine. We will be passing out solar glasses. It doesn’t get better than this. Have you ever seen a sky full of stars at 2:30PM? Animals lose their s~~~ and our ancestors thought it was the end of the world. We will see the Corona of our sun, normally invisible.

[HitmanParticipant]

very beautiful music,
thanks.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Astro wrote:

Look an the indian way of life. The man rode a horse, hunted, fished and got pussy anytime he wanted it, sometimes from more than one wife. He never paid taxes, never had to worry about getting fired or laid off and had no wish to quit what he did because he loved it. His woman did the cooking, took care of the children, tended to the garden and did all the work needed at home while her man went hunting and fishing. She was held at high esteem and honored. She remained faithful because her husband was her only source for meat and many materials badly needed.

And then along came a more aggressive race with more advanced technology and wiped them out.

Bonobos are very peaceful, relaxed and socially complex creatures, feeding, grooming and loving each other without boundary or concern whenever they please. But introduce a clan of chimpanzees into their midsts, and the whole lot of them would be wiped out in a fortnight.

Nature doesn’t care how nice you are, only how fit for survival. I’m sorry to say it (as I have several dear friends who are indigenous) but they simply never had a chance. They got here too late, got too comfortable, had too much room and too much to eat and were soft. Even the harder ones… no chance. That’s life.

And believe me, if and when white people are met by some far more aggressive and technologically advanced species in the future, we’re going to be wiped off the face of the earth just the same. No race is inherently better than any other, some are just better equipped for kicking the asses of the others. It’s all a matter of chance.

[Anonymous 14]

Stargazer wrote:

And believe me, if and when white people are met by some far more aggressive and technologically advanced species in the future, we’re going to be wiped off the face of the earth just the same. No race is inherently better than any other, some are just better equipped for kicking the asses of the others. It’s all a matter of chance.

It will likely take that to realize we are all on the same team, Independence movie style as we are all stuck on this rock together… Until then humanity has zero hope of transcending it’s animal nature in regards to being cool to one another, it is actually far more likely to destroy itself before reaching another planet or being contacted by other “intelligent” life forms. We like to think we are smart, but really we are nothing more than monkeys with nuclear weapons pointed at each other because we need to make sure we have more s~~~ than the other monkeys around us so that we can impress the female monkeys so we can get laid.

There is a theory, that the reason why we have not been contacted is because this is the nature of the universe, that is that the strongest survive, and that on other planets this fate of destroying oneself collectively has been played out over and over and over again.

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