Thanks for the Advice, and 21 Conv

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Thanks everyone for all the great advice about where to take my career. My wife has moved out, and while it’s a bit tough, I pretty much have no assets (because of her), so I’ll mostly get out of this with really no losses.

Oddly enough, I was just curious, so I went back and looked up to see how the 21 Convention was going, since I hadn’t paid attention to it in several years. I thought maybe it might have gone full MGTOW and I could try to land a gig with that.

It hasn’t.

It turns out, that just a day or two earlier, the guy putting on the convention made this video, whereby he declared himself the President of the Manosphere.

I have to admit, this was the oddest 23 minutes I had watched, and got more, uh… eccentric toward the end.

I had to look into it, and I guess what happened is he and two of his speakers had a falling out over his use of their image in his promotion for the convention, so they pulled out of the convention, and the convention experienced about $40,000 in credit card chargebacks.

Then I could understand why he went off the deep end and made that video. That’s a tough pill to swallow.

Apparently there is this “Red Man Group” which posted this response, kind of explaining what happened, at the eight minute mark.

Rollo explains the situation at 1:21, if anyone is interested.

Odd stuff.

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2096]

The 21 group are a bunch of PUAS who haven’t read the memo. Glad you found some useful advice here. Rollo Tomassi’s book the rational male is worth a read. I recently quite like Coach Greg Adams stuff on youtube. He is somewhat of a pua but open to mgtow ideas. Most of the red man group, I’d avoid. It’s pua not MGTOW and still pedalling their products as lifestyle enhancements, which is still based on hanging supposedly higher quality thots and finding your nawalt. Nothing really beats Stardusk and Blue Monday of the Forever Alone group has some relatively interesting insights about the invisible men women refuse to date.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

I’m really sorry Sandals. Do you smoke Cigars? I got one that I have been keeping in PRIME condition in my Humidor. I see no better person to get it then you my brother. I smoked its sister cigar Hand wrapped by the same artisans when I got out of jail on a sunny day.

Email me at imickey503@ G mail. I will have it out in the post after I get a suitable travel cigar box for you. Its not much. But I hope all will sail smoothly in your future.

Let me know.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Sandals wrote:

o I’ll mostly get out of this with really no losses.

EVERYTHING that YOU BUILD from this point is YOURS!!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

I may start smoking cigars. My gosh imickey, don’t dox yourself!

Although I guess it doesn’t matter. I am pretty sure the See Eye A is running this site now. Who the fvck cares anymore.

Awakened wrote:

EVERYTHING that YOU BUILD from this point is YOURS!

True. Thanks for that. Now I just have to figure out what to build. My problem is I have too many options. That’s not such a bad option to have.

[Branched offParticipant 10929]

Its a new beginning for you Sandals. I think it is good to be still after a big event. Sometimes even good things still shake us up and it is sometimes only a few months later that we realise the impact. The time when a relationship breaks is very wearing and one can be quite worn down and not know it because you are living full of cortisol and adrenaline.

I just got shot of a female baggage that had been encumbering me for a decade at the end of July. Two months later I am still tired and a couple of weeks ago I slipped and cut halfway through a tendon (luckily). I remember from my divorce years ago how I was actually quite vulnerable after the split but also full of a desire to do something. Everyone is different but I would recommend trying to do little and think little (very hard when the mind is racing) until you settle on what you really want.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[GrumpyParticipant]

Congrats on single hood Sandals.
Best wishes going forward.
Stay under the radar because any “display of wealth” is an open call for her and her lawyers to demand a “reassessment” of her potential winnings.
That isn’t a guess nor “bitterness” it is just a proven statistical fact that is reinforced daily by “divorce/family” courts.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Man, I saw that 21 convention guy’s video too, but I came about it in the opposite direction by listening to Rollo address it and then went and found what’s-his-name’s video. Holy sh!t is it awkward. He did himself no favors posting that sh!t. I don’t really care for Richard Cooper and his PUA soap selling BS, but I will fully admit he is well spoken and charismatic. And Rollo certainly doesn’t look or sound like I imagined, but he is charming with good insight.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Sandals wrote:

I may start smoking cigars. My gosh imickey, don’t dox yourself!

Although I guess it doesn’t matter. I am pretty sure the See Eye A is running this site now. Who the fvck cares anymore.

I don’t care either. I was a Very public figure at one time and always was in the Youtube community. My family all uploaded their videos to my channel at one time, and we did a lot of things around PDX. From Car Audio SPL stuff, to helping out Veterans the church, or doing Computer tutorials. etc.

THat’s why it surprises me that anyone think that they can DOX me? Hello! Until google did their clean up, iMickey503 has About 11,500 results. Before then? About 259,000! I was on one time featured in other people content more often then I can point out. Even on Philip Defranco channel when he was just starting out.

Keymaster even asked me if I wanted my channel on here on the MGTOW pages. I said no. I don’t need any promotion. THat’s not why I’m here.

MGTOW to me is about helping other men. If that’s a crime? Call me guilty! Helping others to me is a life well lived. It goes with my Background of being a Swami like my father.

After trying to find my own way, I take GREAT pride in knowing that what I do each day, does make a difference for the future. I want men to shine. And if I had a hand in that? That makes my time on this earth mean something.

And above all? Silence from me is what they all want. They will not be having it. Its what they always wanted from men. TO be silent and not say a word and suffer in loneliness. I’m not having it. 🙂

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

iMickey503 wrote:

I’m really sorry Sandals. Do you smoke Cigars?

Thanks for the offer but I would want to take your prize cigar. I may get to a cigar shop sometime and give it a go.

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