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“I do not think you can name many great inventions that have been made by married men.”
― Nikola Tesla“I do not think there is any thrill that can go through the human heart like that felt by the inventor as he sees some creation of the brain unfolding to success . . . Such emotions make a man forget food, sleep, friends, love, everything.”
― Nikola Tesla“Be alone, that is the secret of invention; be alone, that is when ideas are born.”
― Nikola TeslaYour 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.
Awesome quotes. Peace.
“I do not have time for wife – and an airplane”.
– Wilbur Wright.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I admire Tesla and Wright more with these quotes!
Tesla is the man.
Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.
Anonymous0“Be alone, that is the secret of invention; be alone, that is when ideas are born.”
― Nikola TeslaVery truthful. I compose some of my best works alone. The ideas of sound and arrangements. My own world.
Very cool stuff.
One time a journalist asked Albert Einstein what was like to be the smartest men in the world, to wich he answered : “I don’t know, you should go ask Nikola Tesla”.
"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”
Yes, I do know that was a quote attributed to Einstein that never actually happened. But it is neverless a faux story about the level of genius Tesla was.
"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”
The man did what he loved and did so with a sustained commitment. The end product is many of the things we have today. He is smarter than a great many men today, he was so far ahead of others in his day on more than one front. There are far too few Tesla’s in this world we need 100 of them.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
Tesla was a genius intellectually. But in business and in life he was a loser and an idiot. His misunderstanding of human nature got him racked over the coals more times than one can count.
It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything
Tesla was a genius intellectually. But in business and in life he was a loser and an idiot. His misunderstanding of human nature got him racked over the coals more times than one can count.
It was because he was a genius that he had the great privilege of being a “loser and an idiot”, for I can see no higher compliment than the rejection from a corrupt society. What good is it for a man to be accepted
at the loss of his soul or the ability to create and observe an original thought?Tesla was a genius intellectually. But in business and in life he was a loser and an idiot. His misunderstanding of human nature got him racked over the coals more times than one can count.
It was because he was a genius that he had the great privilege of being a “loser and an idiot”, for I can see no higher compliment than the rejection from a corrupt society. What good is it for a man to be accepted
at the loss of his soul or the ability to create and observe an original thought?He didn’t reject society. He was fooled by men such as Thomas Edison and the Alfred S. Brown. But we don’t talk about that sides of things much. If he was more competent with human beings he could have provided even more discovery to humanity. He missed out on many grants and due to poor management lived the end of his life in poverty.
It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything
You say:
But in business and in life he was a loser and an idiot. His misunderstanding of human nature got him racked over the coals more times than one can count.
and this:
If he was more competent with human beings he could have provided even more discovery to humanity. He missed out on many grants and due to poor management lived the end of his life in poverty.
but also this:
It’s only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything
So I am confused as to where you are coming from, as his “genius” not only enabled knowledge and advancements in the physical universe, but also achieved the “freedom through loss” mentality you claim as a truth.
What I never understood about Durden, and I really enjoyed and admired his character in fight club (It is one of the few movies I actually bought for dvd), was whether he really believed what he said or was so envious of everyone who was more successful than him that he had to destroy himself in order to cope with that “burden”.
He was a genius for dying in poverty. He spent everything while he was alive and left nothing for a woman to take.
You say:
But in business and in life he was a loser and an idiot. His misunderstanding of human nature got him racked over the coals more times than one can count.
and this:
If he was more competent with human beings he could have provided even more discovery to humanity. He missed out on many grants and due to poor management lived the end of his life in poverty.
but also this:
It’s only after we’ve lost everything that we’re free to do anything
So I am confused as to where you are coming from, as his “genius” not only enabled knowledge and advancements in the physical universe, but also achieved the “freedom through loss” mentality you claim as a truth.
What I never understood about Durden, and I really enjoyed and admired his character in fight club (It is one of the few movies I actually bought for dvd), was whether he really believed what he said or was so envious of everyone who was more successful than him that he had to destroy himself in order to cope with that “burden”.
Look I’m not saying Telsa was not a genius. He was incredibly intelligent. As Einstein said he was the smartest man alive. However, his not understanding of basic human nature lead to his downfall. Which lead to him not achieving other great goals. He didn’t reject society. He just did not understand it and ignored its true nature. He played a game he did not know the rules of and lost. He never achieved nothingness. Nothingness is the understanding of human nature. There is nothing but human nature. To acheive nothingness is the first step.
Tesla decided to live within society and he did not understand the rules. If you do not understand human nature you cannot hope to mold it to your will. A person can say “I’m better than that.” I hope you are and go off and live in a cabin in the mountains. Until then you are not.
It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything
The point I am trying to make that playing by others rules is a dangerous game. It’s like playing chess without knowing how the pieces move or at very least the basic strategy. IF you think I am trying to sabotage you then you need to rethink things. This is simply a warning to know that just because you play by certain rules does not mean others will. You may very well find encouragement being compared to the most brilliant logical minds of all humanity. But realize he lacked in many departments and was tricked quite easily. Do not follow such an example. Be cautious always to retain truths in your mind
It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything
It was because he was a genius that he had the great privilege of being a “loser and an idiot”, for I can see no higher compliment than the rejection from a corrupt society. What good is it for a man to be accepted at the loss of his soul or the ability to create and observe an original thought?
Sorry, but no. I’m an engineer and it pains me to see the real Tesla lost in the flood of technologically illiterate fanboy gushing that’s grown up around him in the last few decades. Tesla was both more and less than the fanboys make him out to be. Phony quotes, false claims, and even conspiracy theories have all but obscured the real man.
Tesla was a high functioning Asperger’s Syndrome case who slowly descended into a clutch of terminal mental illnesses from his thirties onward. How insane was he? Well, he had a pathological fear of earrings and used to purposely stub his toes 100 times each night to “excite his brain cells” among many other things. Late in life when he was basically a vegan recluse, he spent over $2,000 on materials to build a frame to help an injured pigeon’s wing heal.
Yes, he envisioned and designed much of our basic alternating current technology. However, Tesla never even suspected that something like the mercury arc rectifier was needed for true long distance AC transmission, others had to recognize that need and create the necessary equipment. As for making AC technology an everyday reality, it was Charles Steinmetz’s various theories and work on hysteresis made electric power industry feasible and truly led to our electrified world.
As Durden correctly pointed out, Tesla’s failures to understand people and society meant his brilliance was frittered away and his usable output suffered. For example, he invented radio and, unlike that lucky idiot Marconi, actually understood how it worked. However, Tesla’s nearly complete lack of people and social skills meant his early radio work went undeveloped by him and unnoticed by the world at large. This inability meant he would later waste years tied up in various lawsuits concerning radio alone.
This “social retardation” was also why Tesla was never able to productively collaborate with others for even short periods of time. Edison and Brown didn’t take advantage of him as much as Tesla couldn’t comprehend what working for and with others actually entailed.
Tesla’s Asperger’s meant his work suffered too, especially as he grew older and his other mental issues took the fore. While he could, at least in his early years, ferociously concentrate on a problem, he was also just as likely to fixate on trifles like a true “autist”. Throughout his productive life, he would continually fritter away his time and energy on side projects. Throughout his productive life he was also easily distracted jumping from project to project and idea to idea before even partially investigating them. He repeatedly failed to even cursorily develop his many flashes of brilliance. Again and again, Tesla came *this* close to achieving breakthroughs or developing technologies only to lose interest once the basic patents were drawn up. Radar, particle beams, VTOL aircraft, disc turbines, computing, microwaves, the list of Tesla’s “almosts” is pathetically long and just as sad.
By the time he moved to Wardenclyffe to p~~~ away whatever investments he could scrape up, Tesla’s truly productive years were all but over. He had enough money to do what he pleased when he pleased and no one to hold him to actually finishing any work. The power transmission work at Wardenclyffe proved to be a fruitless fixation that wasted nearly two decades of his life. True to his Asperger’s, Tesla spent all that time there either throwing away his brilliance and energy on trivial side projects or on the dead end of wireless power. A saner man would have realized this, but Tesla wasn’t sane enough to even suspect it.
By the end of WW1, about all Tesla “produced” anymore was great newspaper copy for reporters. He was always good for grandiose press releases hinting at wondrous inventions almost completed or vague descriptions of super-weapons so terrible they would end war. He habitually gave lengthy birthday interviews in that vein, but year after year nothing of note was ever produced.
Tesla was undoubtedly brilliant, but he was also undoubtedly mentally ill. If you want to honor the man – and you should – honor the reality of the man and not some Internet legend.
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Tesla was undoubtedly brilliant, but he was also undoubtedly mentally ill. If you want to honor the man – and you should – honor the reality of the man and not some Internet legend.
You also forgot that he believed he was receiving messages from other worlds through his head. Can you cite what internet legend I am pushing? All I am saying, is:
1)Tesla was a genius that accomplished a lot. (A child knows this)
2)Tesla was rejected by a society who judged the quality of a man by his ability to “have a cup of tea” in a social setting.
3)Tesla followed his own vision, and in that respect, was an MGTOW.
4)A lot of people are envious of his accomplishments and hundreds of patents.I am not arguing that he was not mentally ill, hell I won’t even argue against him lacking “social” skills. But was the society around him sane either?
But regardless of what he lacked, he was a genius never the less. One could see how his “failures” held him back, and this is subject to opinion, but one could also come from the perspective of his “failures” being the very same thing that brought out the best in him.
For if he was able to better apply his energy to the “social world” and receive the funding he “needed”, would he be able to understand/discover/develop many of the technological developments and patents that he had? I doubt it, but these arguments are mere speculation on both sides as they amount to a “what if” mentality.
He was a mental athlete, without argument, and like all great athletes had injuries through overuse and competition. It doesn’t make him any less of a champion “athlete”. And like all champion athletes, they are not valued for their “social” skills, but for their skill and work ethic.
Their are many “negatives” about Tesla, this is obvious and I am well aware of many (not all) of them. But if one looked at the society around him at the time, the types of people he dealt with (such as the Rockefellers) they were just as “anti-social” in a different respect. So who is really innocent, or can pass judgement on anything other than the greatness of many of his achievements or his undoubtable dedication to science?
He was a MGTOW in the respect that he had a vision, society did not share, went for it, and in many respects succeeded. He accomplished a lot more than most.
As Durden correctly pointed out, Tesla’s failures to understand people and society meant his brilliance was frittered away and his usable output suffered. For example, he invented radio and, unlike that lucky idiot Marconi, actually understood how it worked. However, Tesla’s nearly complete lack of people and social skills meant his early radio work went undeveloped by him and unnoticed by the world at large. This inability meant he would later waste years tied up in various lawsuits concerning radio alone.
Your right, obviously 278 patents is not enough. He should have got a law degree on the side and practiced going to tea parties, in between his inventive phases. Then we can criticize him for not inventing more, because he spent his time bowing to the wives of rich men and studying laws that will be changed again in a few years.
In regards to Durden:
Durden is a character who is the embodiment of rejecting social convention, in that regard I have no idea where he is coming from because in many respects Tesla should be his f~~~ing hero. MGTOW reject social convention. Tesla rejected and was rejected by social convention.
One can look at all he accomplishes, and what will society look at? “Oh, he is afraid of earrings and likes to stub his toes. He believes he is getting messages from aliens.” Is he hurting anyone? “No, as a matter of fact he is a great inventor that is changing the way we live”. Then what’s wrong with him? “Oh, he is just different. He is weird.”
This is the crux of anti-tesla arguments.
That is all I am saying.
Oh, I am also not a fan boy. I couldn’t give a s~~~ about tesla. But his accomplishments were “great” and he was an MGTOW. I just think all his “haters” are envious. But that is an opinion and this is the internet, so take it for what it is.
All I am saying, is…
What you’re saying is almost entirely wrong and you completely missed the point of my post.
1)Tesla was a genius that accomplished a lot. (A child knows this)
A child “knows” that because children don’t know s~~~. Tesla had hundreds of patents, make dozens of breakthroughs, and completely failed to follow through on his insights or build anything which lasted. Sure, Tesla laid the groundwork for AC power, but Steinmetz made it work. Sure, Tesla arguably invented radio, but dozens of others developed the technology because Tesla was too f~~~ing distracted building prostheses for pigeons.
2)Tesla was rejected by a society who judged the quality of a man by his ability to “have a cup of tea” in a social setting.
Bulls~~~. Tesla wasn’t “rejected” because he didn’t know which fork to use with oysters. J.P. Morgan and plenty of others bankrolled him to the tune of millions for decades and only turned off the tap when there was no return on their money. Tesla was “rejected” because he never finished anything and not because he didn’t know how to hold a tea cup.
Tesla ricocheted around throwing out ideas brilliant, bad, or indifferent while failing more and more to actually develop or finish anything. He would have been a perfect fit for a research lab like Edison’s, coming up with dozens of ideas and leaving the heavy lifting for others, but he was too f~~~ing autistic know that was his best option and work in such a organization.
3)Tesla followed his own vision, and in that respect, was an MGTOW.
That’s about the only true statement in your post.
4)A lot of people are envious of his accomplishments and hundreds of patents.
Not his peers. They were saddened by Tesla’s wasted promise more than anything else.
I am not arguing that he was not mentally ill, hell I won’t even argue against him lacking “social” skills. But was the society around him sane either?
Jesus H. Titty F~~~ing Christ. It’s Freshman 101 Sociology now? “How do we know who is really sane?” Save the cracker barrel philosophy for the next bull session in your dorm, okay?
But regardless of what he lacked, he was a genius never the less.
He leaned more towards idiot savant than genius with the savant attributes growing with time. You know what Tesla was? He was the human equivalent of Doug the Dog from the movie Up. His life was series of brilliant insights punctuated by meaningless distractions, distractions which only increased as he grew older, distractions which led him to p~~~ away his brilliance.
“I could propagate these electromagnetic waves to send mess…” SQUIRREL “Alternating current could be transmitted long distances if I could solve the rectification prob…” SQUIRREL “Radio signals of a sufficiently small wavelength could be used to determine the distance to object by monitoring their reflect…” SQUIRREL “Coherent light of sufficient power could burn through…” SQUIRREL “A collimated beam of ions could be useful…” SQUIRREL SQUIRREL SQUIRREL SQUIRREL.
He was a MGTOW in the respect that he had a vision, society did not share, went for it, and in many respects succeeded. He accomplished a lot more than most.
That much is true. All the rest of your “observations” about how it was society’s fault he failed to even come close to his promise is nothing but more Freshman 101 gobbledeegook.
Your right, obviously 278 patents is not enough. He should have got a law degree on the side and practiced going to tea parties, in between his inventive phases. Then we can criticize him for not inventing more, because he spent his time bowing to the wives of rich men and studying laws that will be changed again in a few years.
Complete bulls~~~ and nothing that I suggested.
That is all I am saying.
There’s what you’re saying and then there’s the actual thinking behind what you are saying. And that thinking proves you know next to nothing about Tesla, his world, or how things actually get done.
Oh, I am also not a fan boy.
You sure as hell repeat the same claims the fan boys make.
But his accomplishments were “great” and he was an MGTOW.
His accomplishments were great and could have easily been greater. He was also a MGTOW, not by conscious choice but by the virtue of his autism.
I just think all his “haters” are envious.
Some are and some, unlike you, actually know the facts. I don’t hate Tesla, but I do hate it when people make wild claims about Tesla.
But that is an opinion and this is the internet, so take it for what it is.
There are opinions and then there are opinions backed up by an understanding of the facts. Care to guess which of us has the facts on their side?
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A child “knows” that because children don’t know s~~~
My point exactly, even the ignorant heard of him.
30 second search on Yahoo, a very average search engine, get this:
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/01/10-inventions-of-nikola-tesla-that.htmlFace it the man had a lot of ideas/patents/inventions that affected the world. I am not saying anything “deep” or “grandiose”.
J.P. Morgan and plenty of others bankrolled him to the tune of millions for decades and only turned off the tap when there was no return on their money.
To be more accurate, they turned off the tap when they found he was spending their investment money on trying to create free electricity instead of a radio tower. No one would invest in anything such as that, because you can’t make a profit off of it. Was tesla’s approach correct? Maybe, maybe not. But who is going to fund a project that provides free electricity without profit?
And then I scroll down, saying to myself, should I argue each point individually or write a long diatribe. Decisions…Tsk…tsk…what a “busy” day I have.
Well, I never made any wild or unfactual claims about Tesla other than his heroic involvement with the sciences and a lot of Patents/inventions/ideas/etc. That is it. I never even claimed he did not suffer from mental illness, or that he was or should be elevated to a “god” status. But there is no point about “arguing” about that and his MGTOW status as that is a “potatoe/potato” argument (did his drive cause his mental illness or did mental illness cause his drive).
What I do know, and everyone else, is that he made a large intellectual contribution during the 20th century and when he died the FBI and other organizations were interested in gathering up his work. In many regards, his creativity was his biggest achievement, because strong backs are a dime a dozen. To attack his character is a cheap move that just obscures his insights and contributions. The man gave it everything he had, if he did not suffer from mental/emotional illness from psychological exhaustion we would be criticizing him still for not trying hard enough.
Some are and some, unlike you, actually know the facts. I don’t hate Tesla, but I do hate it when people make wild claims about Tesla.
The only “fact” you pointed to was his mental illness and that his idea’s inspired other inventors. I never disagreed once nor made any wild claims.
Old Bill your not angry with me or anyone here, as a matter of fact deep down you think we are alright, and we think the same about you. You are just angry with the mirror on your wall. (To be completely frank, that last “jab” was for the swear words in your post.)
There’s what you’re saying and then there’s the actual thinking behind what you are saying. And that thinking proves you know next to nothing about Tesla, his world, or how things actually get done.
And obviously you don’t either, other wise you would not be reading a “freshman 101 post” and arguing with it. Oh, and one more question. I have heard of Tesla, who are you again?
(This jab was for calling me a fanboy. This is a philosophy forum, it is for debating ideas. I could not care less about tesla. I just took the position of defending him well…..out of boredom….)
You should thank me, it is very rare to have a discussion/debate with someone as forthright about their intentions as I.
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