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Hello brothers and good day. Today I would like to talk about suicide. Ive been thinking of suicide a lot lately (the act of, not contemplating) and ive had a change of heart. Living in western society my whole life I was told that suicide is very wrong. If you commit suicide you will go to hell, everyone will pity you, and If you fail you will be imprisoned or institutionalized.
Why is this though? Is suicide really such a bad thing? As ive been studying other cultures ive found that the eastern world doesn’t view suicide in the same way we do. in fact Japan has the highest suicide rating in the world yet on the contrast they have the least amount of homicide. But in Japan suicide is usually performed due to shame.
When people make mistakes, when they live a lie, or when they wake up and realize they have been controlled or manipulated since birth, some people get angry and lash out at the world, and others feel shame and choose to take control off their own life finally by ending it on their terms.
Sure nobody wants a love one to kill themselves. But is that not a bit selfish? Its their life not yours. Now I’m not saying every suicide is justified and that we shouldn’t try to help those suffering with these thoughts, but what I am getting at is that maybe we shouldn’t pity those that take their own lives, but instead honor them for having the courage to end ones own life.
Killing yourself is not an easy thing to do. The samurai of old japan and the bushido code was a thing based on honor and shame. Seppuku was often performed by samurai who shamed their shogun or themselves and many wives of samurai would take their lives as well using a different ritual suicide. Thing is those who did perform Seppuku died with honor and absolved their shame. Nobody pitied them.
So in that spirit, to the brothers who have take their own lives do to our Gynocentric society, let us not pity them but honor them instead. They made the ultimate choice by truly checking out of society for good, and I would like to believe they are happier now then in life.
Thoughts?
You want to make me angry? I will take a bite out of that anger and shit out success.
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
So in that spirit, to the brothers who have take their own lives do to our Gynocentric society, let us not pity them but honor them instead. They made the ultimate choice by truly checking out of society for good, and I would like to believe they are happier now then in life.
No. They are not martyrs.
They made the ultimate choice by truly checking out of society for good, and I would like to believe they are happier now then in life.
Being “happier” in death ? When you’re dead, you’re dead. How would you think a corpse has ongoing human emotions ??
If you are implying some form of spiritual/religious after life, I get what you’re implying, don’t buy it, but get your statement.
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but what I am getting at is that maybe we shouldn’t pity those that take their own lives, but instead honor them for having the courage to end ones own life.
Thoughts?
It doesn’t take courage to kill yourself. It takes courage to face your problems. It takes courage to face the adversities in life head on, like a man. Suicide is the cowards way out. You kill yourself, you’re a coward. You weren’t man enough to deal with your problems.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Most people I’ve known to commit suicide were shamed and not shown pity.
You make an interesting point with the difference between cultures.
Nowadays, when a person decides to end their life AND NOT TAKE OTHERS with them, I absolutely agree. They should be honored.
The dumb f~~~ing loser who goes to a church, school, or other crowded event just to make a name for himself needs to be extremely shamed on national tv. Stop this b.s. crying about how guns are bad. That asshats picture needs to be put up, verbally attacked as a societal LOSER, and make these other idiots think “If I kill others I will be a bigger loser than I am now”.
Maybe by honoring them when they are the only victim, it will help solve this decay in society.
Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!
It doesn’t take courage to kill yourself. It takes courage to face your problems.
Well said.
And I might add this is an important topic. Glad to see it being discussed.
In this thread I talk about trying to off myself in the car and it ran out of gas. Leave it to Old Sage to say, “Check gas gauge, Thanks”. Ha!
I had similar thoughts when I was younger and praying over it and studying spiritual warfare, I found something out.
The thoughts you are having are not your thoughts.
There are a multitude of evil spirits whom can come in to one’s life regarding trauma, bitterness, anger, and depression in one’s life.
These evil spirits(demons) then team up to attack the person’s mind with attacks on his mind-like suicide.
Typically: Fear demons come in first to attack the mind with negative unrealistic pictures, scenarios, and messages in the persons mind. Then coward and suicide(death) demons team up on you inspiring thoughts of ending it all with scenes, messages(thoughts) on giving up.
Secular psychology can’t address something they don’t know about. They can only patch this area, so to speak.
When you embrace those…’thoughts ‘ as your own thoughts, your emotions at the seat of the soul well up inside you and you could mistakenly act out on them.
Don’t ever do that.
Those thoughts of suicide are not your thoughts you are having, believe it of not. Brush it off and renew your mind on your life ahead of you and move on.These evil spirits(demons) then team up to attack the person’s mind
I am going to catch hell for this, but you are right. I pray that God will keep the Devil away from me everyday. Good post.
/atheists attack in 3….2………/
Thoughts?
Where to begin. My thoughts on allowing some female, or her society to get me down? Never.
take their own lives do to our Gynocentric society, let us not pity them but honor them instead
.. due to our Gynocentric society? My answer to that is turn and walk away .. reject the mess they have created .. don’t give them the proverbial “time of day”. Hey, this is your life, your world, your interests and your plans .. don’t let them influence your day.
truly checking out of society for good, and I would like to believe they are happier now then in life
Holy Moly .. if I gave women the pedestal to stand on and allowed them to influence my day, this day, today .. I’d also be depressed. Depression is real, it;s a place you don’t want to go and imho it’s a place you can steer away from for the most part by designing your own path .. and setting off on your journey. This may sound simplistic, but it works for me. I’ve been alone almost twenty five years .. it wasn’t as smooth at first .. but, each month, each year that passes .. and new thoughts and interests have naturally filled the gaps in my life. Some I’d never even considered before when my thoughts were fogged by nature and the ol’ Lizard part of my own brain .. which stole, yes stole from me so much time from my daily life. Not, no, more. That old trouble-maker has now slithered back into his cave.
Like I continue to post .. 99.99 percent of the glorious world beyond the grey Gynocentric society .. and everything good in it is there for you .. even if all you do is your assert your right to choose freedom and follow your path .. just turn and walk.
Walking from “ball and chain relationships” hasn’t turned me into some old lonely Scrooge .. to the contrary, life is better, so much better .. and I see those guys who have a millstone around their necks in public .. being lead by some woman as they push the shopping carts. Take a good look at their faces .. then look at mine. The light has gone from their eyes. Not here, my eyes are still open and I look forward to the next month, the next year.
Follow your path .. if that includes relationships at some level, you make the call. You’re still gyow.
Just hold on to your ability to make that call. Don’t sacrifice your freedom. Don’t get trapped into someone else’s play. Stay free. If that includes visiting every beach and dance club in the Caribbean .. or ghosting .. or even years in monk mode .. it’s also your decision. You design your journey. Every path is good .. as long as you stay free.
Just, give it a chance.I am an atheist and find ark545’s post extremely insightful and hopeful. It is a great perspective that I plan on embracing.
Anonymous18I see nothing wrong with it.
It is wrong to encourage someone to commit suicide.
But for someone who ceases to get meaning from life, and wants to end it – well unless it is a family member whose loss will sadden me, I find no reason to intervene.
With a family member there are incentives for me to put effort and attention in order to help them feel better about themselves. For others I don’t have any incentives. Nor would it affect me if they live or die.
Suicide is a very complex topic to discuss. Everyone has a different opinion. Even psychology didn’t solved this issue yet. Why? Because it can’t be solved, simple as that. It can be prostponed through psychology therapy. This event depends a lot of the life of the person, how this person grown up, issues in childhood, parents, all these factors influence in the adult life.
I know that because I went through it on my adolescence, I never attempted to do it, but this kind of thought inhabited my mind for many years. Seeing that, I knew I would need to fix that, so I started to read a lot about psychology, seek wisdom in many areas in order to figure it out how to get out of that situation. Over the next years, It simple vanished. And believe me, life didn’t contributed to help me out of that hole. It takes a lot of willpower to some people.
If that really makes someone happy, to take away his own life, this person will do it at some point, there’s no way to avoid it. It’s up to you how you’ll feel about it.
It depends on your religion view too. I don’t think it’s an honorable thing to do. I don’t go to Valhalla if I kill myself.
Don't look back, you're not going that way.
It doesn’t take courage to kill yourself. It takes courage to face your problems.
Well said.
And I might add this is an important topic. Glad to see it being discussed.
In this thread I talk about trying to off myself in the car and it ran out of gas. Leave it to Old Sage to say, “Check gas gauge, Thanks”. Ha!
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I read your story and I’m very glad you are here with us today.
I’ve said it in these forums a number of times now, but twice in my life I’ve had a handgun up to my head. I wanted to take the easy way out, because I was unhappy and things weren’t going very well. I look back and think, “What a f~~~ing coward I was….what a schmuck whiner…” Thank God I did not pull that trigger either time. So times are tough at the moment. Cry me a river. Most of the time, there is someone else out there going through a lot more s~~~ than you or I have ever known and they aren’t thinking about killing themselves.
Be a f~~~ing man and face your problems head on and fight and push your way through it. This is a good life if you make it that way. Sure someone, or something is going to come against and there will be bad things happen, but there is always and end to the bad times and the good times could be just around the corner.
I was weak. I was a coward when I had a gun to my head. I was stupid. I’ll never do that again. I will never be that weak again. A man faces his problems and works through them. He doesn’t give up and take his own life. I was really miserable back then, but I found a way to make my life better and I am now very happy. Suicide is for the weak and there is no honor in it.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
I am an atheist and find ark545’s post extremely insightful and hopeful. It is a great perspective that I plan on embracing
^Respect^. +1
A man faces his problems and works through them. He doesn’t give up and take his own life.
Excellent attitude and thank you for sharing your story as well. We are still standing and will not fall again!
I completely understand suicide in the case of terminal illness, etc. As well as somewhat understand it otherwise, hell was on the verge of it many years ago.
Condoning or encouraging it is not sometging i can do though. But, each to their own. Just dont push others to it.
No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.
A man faces his problems and works through them. He doesn’t give up and take his own life.
Excellent attitude and thank you for sharing your story as well. We are still standing and will not fall again!
Actually, I had forgotten about a third time I was considering offing myself because life just seemed to hard. However, the other two were because of females.
If you can find humor in such a thing, one of those two times was because a gal left me.
The other time was because I was married and thought there was no other way out but through death. Although I’m disgusted with myself for almost ending it over a couple of no good females, I still find humor in the irony.“Oh, she left me……I can’t go on….” “Oh damn, I’m stuck with her……I can’t go on!”
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Anonymous14I have now had four childhood friends kill themselves, all male. These were guys I knew very well from the ages around 5 to 25. Two were on drugs at the time of death, the other two I am not so sure. I don’t believe in Hell or any of that s~~~, and really just want to hit people in the face with a brick who would say such a thing about a dead friend of mine, regardless of how he died.
In the end it’s your life, do what you like. Many are on slower paths of suicide everyday and nobody says s~~~. Overeaters, smokers, people who drive crazy, dudes who do risky jobs, getting married and having kids…lol, whatever. Pick your poison, some just prefer to take it all at once I suppose. There is only one thing that we must all do, and that is die, some do it on their own terms more directly than others.
Many are on slower paths of suicide everyday and nobody says s~~~.
I cannot believe it, but I agree with Joe. As a smoker I have chosen my fate if I do not wise up and stop. Good post Joe +1.
Great stuff fellas. I like to hear what you all think. Helps me reflect properly
You want to make me angry? I will take a bite out of that anger and shit out success.
Sure nobody wants a love one to kill themselves. But is that not a bit selfish? Its their life not yours.
Yes you have a right to kill yourself however if you have not completed your personal mission and got all you needed done it is a waste to kill yourself.
If you did everything you wanted in life and then decided to die on your own terms (not being a old f~~~ in a hospital bed) then go ahead do what you want but till then i cannot recommend suicide.
So in that spirit, to the brothers who have take their own lives do to our Gynocentric society, let us not pity them but honor them instead. They made the ultimate choice by truly checking out of society for good, and I would like to believe they are happier now then in life.
Pity is deserved because they died the simple way without completing their mission and not dying in the method they actually wanted.
They slaved their entire lives for the bulls~~~ system only to get divorced by their c~~~ wife and kill themselves negating their personal mission entirely in service to society. Killing yourself after your wife f~~~s you over is like a drone doing its job then dying.
Men in the 70’s who got divorced kill themselves alone with the men of the coming decades and no one has given an actual s~~~ about it.
Even thou divorced men have f~~~ed up by getting married in the first place if they have their health it is not completely too late depending on their mission and once the time for death comes they can choose to die in a better way then shooting themselves (like dying of a heart attack, during a drug and sex binge with your face between a woman’s legs, getting into a high speed chase and hitting a tree, hell even getting into a bar fight and getting stabbed), all of these fates are better then just committing suicide peacefully in the night.
There are a multitude of evil spirits whom can come in to one’s life regarding trauma, bitterness, anger, and depression in one’s life.
What evidence can you actually base this idea on? how do you know it is supernatural causation rather then completely natural, demonstratable and explainable causes?
You must have really good evidence to argue this to be even be valid in the slightest.
Typically: Fear demons come in first to attack the mind with negative unrealistic pictures, scenarios, and messages in the persons mind. Then coward and suicide(death) demons team up on you inspiring thoughts of ending it all with scenes, messages(thoughts) on giving up.
What evidence do you have for the fear demons existent and if exorcism/prayer is effective at curing them in the long term (if i get an exorcism will i just need another one due to the effects wearing off, aka the high wearing off)?
How do you know that it is not just one demon but rather each trait gets its own demon?
Secular psychology can’t address something they don’t know about. They can only patch this area, so to speak.
How does religion know the answers to this? how do we know you are not just making this up or are delusional on the type of demon that exists. Even if demons exist you cannot know that God is just a demon false God with X being the real God.
All religion can argue is faith, stuff that cannot be disproved (magical claims),and stuff that has already been disproved.
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