Accusing Women of Misconduct Formally

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I have not read ever dot and tiddle of this thread but I read enough that I would ask this. Why are you still going to that YMCA? RUN. You are DANGEROUSLY close. You’re walking a razor’s edge man.

I stop going to a Starbucks if so much as the c~~~ making the coffee starts giving me lovey-dovey eyes or starts to get used to me rolling in with the same order each day. Im fiercely MONK and I don’t even want female acquaintances. In five years, I’ve never had sex. I will continue this way because I’ve read all the effing horror stories from the MEN on this site.

So you have this STALKER (lets just call her what she is bro) and she has sent letters to your home??!! Oh my f~~~ing god, what are you doing dude? You want to marry that gash? You want to be Pick Up Artist her? GO FOR IT. She is closing in on you and you are pussy drunk or something.

YOu tell yourself the lie, the justification. It’s my GYM, a YMCA and I have a right to be there (yet its run by Gash and you still go there). YOU ARE IN LOVE WITH THEM.

You need to SEVERE that attachment bro before you fall into Poison Ivy bro. This is my loving, brotherly advice. MEANT IN JOVIAL WAY, no hate brother. For me, Id be GHOST that f~~~ing place FOREVER

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

That’s the problem with the mgtow philosophy. You can’t wall yourself off in this world. There are too many wonderful things to experience in this life that I will not let feminists push me out just because they’re bullies.

The Christians try to convert. The Muslims will kill you to convert. I don’t think people need to be aware of us. Anonymity is good.

But I will not be pushed out of the public spaces by feminists who are very happy to create a feminist world, ruled by women’s laws, and making men a second class citizen. Remember, women think we are idiots and they are smart. They think it is entirely possible to take over all male spaces and turn them fem. Then men should pay for the running of these spaces because 1. the chillin 2. men owe it to women to do things for them 3. Reparations.

I function as a member of society and will accept all the s~~~ that is given away for free because I, as a man, really paid for it through my taxes.

The predatory femb-beasts at the Y can go f~~~ themselves.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

I will not let feminists push me out

I hear you and respect the MEN that hold that view.

I guess my personality is that I will not fight unless I know I can win. I’m the master of evasion. I walk around people, I ghost everyone and I champion solitude. To avoid them is to win also.

He has built a dependence on their drama and attention they give him. (IMHO) And I think it’s a slippery slope.

Women are a slippery slope. And martyrdom over a dying institution like the YMCA … go for it man, I always hated those places so I wouldn’t care. I would just ghost out of there forever, Id of done it a long time ago.

I prefer city bike paths and crossfit jogging/walking across urban-scapes. Fresh-air, real sunlight, breezy trees and nice views of natural surroundings — that is ideal for personal training, not grey walls, mirrors, treadmills and people eye-ball f~~~ing you. The water is dirty. Its just a disgusting, sweaty-smell environment full of judging eyes and bad motives. I prefer fitness outside, alone.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

This thread has been a reminder for me. I’ quitting the two coffee shops I go to.

One is local, filled to the brim with uber-leftwing, city c~~~s. The other is a Starbucks I pop into at 6pm for a stiff, take-out, coffee in the evening, on the way to AA.

The 25 year old girl who makes my evening coffee never fails to wave and greet me, even when she isn’t running the front… a clear invitation. I’m out…

I will not be drawn in. Once they get close, the neurotransmitters start doping you, soon you will SLIP.

NOPE, not me. They see a Gravel Pit shaped hole in the wall because I split out of there faster than a coyote with an ACME rocket LOL. Plenty of other coffee shops!

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

That’s the problem with the mgtow philosophy. You can’t wall yourself off in this world. There are too many wonderful things to experience in this life that I will not let feminists push me out just because they’re bullies.
The Christians try to convert. The Muslims will kill you to convert. I don’t think people need to be aware of us. Anonymity is good.
But I will not be pushed out of the public spaces by feminists who are very happy to create a feminist world, ruled by women’s laws, and making men a second class citizen. Remember, women think we are idiots and they are smart. They think it is entirely possible to take over all male spaces and turn them fem. Then men should pay for the running of these spaces because 1. the chillin 2. men owe it to women to do things for them 3. Reparations.
I function as a member of society and will accept all the s~~~ that is given away for free because I, as a man, really paid for it through my taxes.
The predatory femb-beasts at the Y can go f~~~ themselves.

I am of similar opinion.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Puffin Stuff wrote:

I will not let feminists push me out

I hear you and respect the MEN that hold that view.
I guess my personality is that I will not fight unless I know I can win. I’m the master of evasion. I walk around people, I ghost everyone and I champion solitude. To avoid them is to win also.
He has built a dependence on their drama and attention they give him. (IMHO) And I think it’s a slippery slope.
Women are a slippery slope. And martyrdom over a dying institution like the YMCA … go for it man, I always hated those places so I wouldn’t care. I would just ghost out of there forever, Id of done it a long time ago.
I prefer city bike paths and crossfit jogging/walking across urban-scapes. Fresh-air, real sunlight, breezy trees and nice views of natural surroundings — that is ideal for personal training, not grey walls, mirrors, treadmills and people eye-ball f~~~ing you. The water is dirty. Its just a disgusting, sweaty-smell environment full of judging eyes and bad motives. I prefer fitness outside, alone.

One lesson I learned the hard way is that victory and loss do not matter. What matters is that you keep fighting. Now I am not arguing to pick a fight with whoever offends you, but rather to keep moving and whoever gets in your way be kind, respectful and play them against themselves.

If you win…so what…you haven’t really won anything that will last.

If you lose…so what…you are aware of your own weakness and that will not last either.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Gravel Pit wrote:

I have not read ever dot and tiddle of this thread but I read enough that I would ask this. Why are you still going to that YMCA? RUN. You are DANGEROUSLY close. You’re walking a razor’s edge man.
I stop going to a Starbucks if so much as the c~~~ making the coffee starts giving me lovey-dovey eyes or starts to get used to me rolling in with the same order each day. Im fiercely MONK and I don’t even want female acquaintances. In five years, I’ve never had sex. I will continue this way because I’ve read all the effing horror stories from the MEN on this site.
So you have this STALKER (lets just call her what she is bro) and she has sent letters to your home??!! Oh my f~~~ing god, what are you doing dude? You want to marry that gash? You want to be Pick Up Artist her? GO FOR IT. She is closing in on you and you are pussy drunk or something.
YOu tell yourself the lie, the justification. It’s my GYM, a YMCA and I have a right to be there (yet its run by Gash and you still go there). YOU ARE IN LOVE WITH THEM.
You need to SEVERE that attachment bro before you fall into Poison Ivy bro. This is my loving, brotherly advice. MEANT IN JOVIAL WAY, no hate brother. For me, Id be GHOST that f~~~ing place FOREVER

Wait…ROFL…hold on…ROFL.

So me being respectful to her, ignoring her is me being a PUA?

Me sending a complaint that they don’t follow there Christian values they push is me trying to get laid?

Throw in the fact I am making the complaint because what they push sets a man up for harassment charges in this PC era?

Personally I believe you are projecting a little, he who avoids the world is still deeply attached to it.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

John Doe wrote:

“Lawyer up every conversation” means to word it in a way where it is neutral in manner intended to act defensively without being on a strict defense.

When I say “lawyer up” I mean talk to an actual lawyer.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

sidecar wrote:

John Doe wrote:

“Lawyer up every conversation” means to word it in a way where it is neutral in manner intended to act defensively without being on a strict defense.

When I say “lawyer up” I mean talk to an actual lawyer.

They can go ahead and do it then.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

John Doe wrote:

They can go ahead and do it then.

They?

We’re talking about you.

If YOU aren’t going to do anything about it, then YOU shouldn’t whine and bitch about it.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

sidecar wrote:

John Doe wrote:

They can go ahead and do it then.

They?
We’re talking about you.
If YOU aren’t going to do anything about it, then YOU shouldn’t whine and bitch about it.

So what you are saying, is that I should go broke pursuing legal action in order to keep a basketball court open (I dont play in) and hand my money over to a gyno centric legal system?

“Excuse me your honor I would like to file a case about a basketball court I dont play in.”

ROFL!

The premise of the thread is real simple, just start filing formal complaints relative to the institution one is in. Standard grassroots movement. If I am concerned the environment puts me in an ethical or legal situation I make them aware, hence if something changes good. If something happens, then I have a history of exhibiting a prior concern further implying innocence.

Men will need legal safe spaces where they are seperated from women eventually.

If all you have to offer for advice is “get a lawyer”, then maybe you shouldn’t whine and bitch about the thread.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

John Doe wrote:

I should go broke

You can have a lawyer draw up a letter for $50.

Seriously, either s~~~ or get off the pot.

But either way, stop p~~~ing and moaning about it.

Seriously, why come here and s~~~ up the board with your whinging if all you’re going to do is f~~~ around and never even try to solve your problem?

[MonkParticipant 16995]

@ John Doe.

Your burbling to management about ‘Christian values’ and ‘inappropriate dress’ will get you nowhere and has painted a target on your back. You have even attracted a stalker.

I understand your irritation and your desire to kick back, but Gravel Pit is right. Get out, because if you don’t, it will not end well.

[MonkParticipant 16995]

Gravel Pit wrote:

I stop going to a Starbucks if so much as the c~~~ making the coffee starts giving me lovey-dovey eyes or starts to get used to me rolling in with the same order each day.

Same here.

Years ago, some fat, neurotic post-waller in a swimming pool went to management and accused me of trying to look at her gash underwater.

I never went back. The pool closed due to ‘lack of support’ some years later.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Young men’s Christian association? ReallY? This is a joke right?

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Another housing system for borderline homeless men is turned to serve the hive. Women want to suck up any and all tax exempt funds to service her gash life support system and womb turds.

Homeless women get hotel vouchers and public housing.

It’s not better in the midwest either. I looked up a Y in Tennessee and found 12 woman and 5 men featured on the home page.

Typical Y housing facilities the Y used to offer men. I’m certain they will phase these out to make room for that extra X chromosome. No Y’s allowed.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

sidecar wrote:

John Doe wrote:

I should go broke

You can have a lawyer draw up a letter for $50.
Seriously, either s~~~ or get off the pot.
But either way, stop p~~~ing and moaning about it.
Seriously, why come here and s~~~ up the board with your whinging if all you’re going to do is f~~~ around and never even try to solve your problem?

Really, one thread is s~~~ting up the board…

The premise is simple, a basic grassroots way of dealing with things, where in whatever institution or social setting those who are in charge are made aware that we are concerned about sexual harassment suits for a variety of reasons.

And what will the letter from the lawyer say exactly? You have read the beginning of the thread right?

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Monk wrote:

@ John Doe.
Your burbling to management about ‘Christian values’ and ‘inappropriate dress’ will get you nowhere and has painted a target on your back. You have even attracted a stalker.
I understand your irritation and your desire to kick back, but Gravel Pit is right. Get out, because if you don’t, it will not end well.

Becoming a monk does not end well either. There is no winning situation.

I am fully aware I am standing out…so what if a target is on my back.

So tell me…how does it end bad?

[MonkParticipant 16995]

John Doe wrote:

Becoming a monk does not end well either.

It’s not perfect, but it’s the safest approach. Had many men on here been monk, they would have never have ended up in the s~~~.

I am fully aware I am standing out…so what if a target is on my back. So tell me…how does it end bad?

A false allegation followed by a ride downtown is how this is likely to end.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Monk wrote:

John Doe wrote:

Becoming a monk does not end well either.

It’s not perfect, but it’s the safest approach. Had many men on here been monk, they would have never have ended up in the s~~~.

I am fully aware I am standing out…so what if a target is on my back. So tell me…how does it end bad?

A false allegation followed by a ride downtown is how this is likely to end.

Safe? We all die, trying to live a life of gratifying my own desire to alleviate some “boredom” is just a prerequisite to despair.

False allegation? I can just look at someone the wrong way in a work or social environment, due to just having a long day, and have a ride down town or be laid off.

Do you see my point?

A man should not have to change who he is or what he thinks regardless of where he wants to go, as long as his thinking or actions do not cause a degradation or harm to his fellow man. But simply being a “male” today is viewed as evil…and what I am suppose to bow down and move to a modern institution that robbed me of any basic ability to live a normal balanced life in accords to natural law?

We are all dead already, hence the situation is a no win other than strictly to stand one’s ground personally or as a group regardless of the outcome. We are f~~~ed no matter what we do, and quite frankly that is what is going to make us free in the end.

So the approach I argue? Stand you ground look the enemy in the eye, metaphorically and literally through dialogue or action, and say “I am here…do your worst.”

Trying to live forever is a cowardly approach and while literal death is strictly not an option in western society, without taking some lunatic approach and killing people causing a further cycle of violence none of us want, one can die by just standing by some set of values of decency and honesty regardless of the outcome.

Hedonism does not work.
Saving oneself does not work.
The only thing one can do and pursue some set of virtue and respect, even for one’s enemies, even if it costs them everything.

But as to costing a man everything, being labeled “whatever” strictly because I point out the hypocrisy and injustice of an institution for not following its own standards is a very small price.

So my advice to young men and those my age? Respect yourself, do good to other’s where you can, and know the enemy which is inside and outside of the self.

I grew up, in my early twenties, being “taught” by you older MGTOW’s and quite frankly the only thing you offer is hedonism and despair. Nothing which gives value to the human condition, let alone man.

What they talk about is how “women are evil”…no s~~~, and I get that. And so are the majority of MGTOWs and MRA as well, they are just dual sides of the same coin of feminism. Unless their is some other ideal than one of “saving your own ass”, then it really is quite pathetic because I have watched enough old people die with that mentality…and it done them no different good than their percieved enemies.

I mean let’s face it, I go on the website (and this is part of the reason I left years ago) and it talks about a strictly negative approach. No women…No family? Okay what now? Buy a bunch of useless junk to distract myself from the fact I will die? I mean most of the men here are more attached to women than any other group, always talking about sex robots or using them for sex….like anything really changes with that.

And I get it, or maybe I don’t, a lot of guys got f~~~ed by the system. And you know what I learned from most of you? Just bitch about it until you recieve “x” numbers of likes…it is no different than the millennial generation with Facebook.

I am standing my ground. This is what I think, feel and how I act and why. It is a real simple and natural approach. If I walk into an institution and I am concerned about my well being, I am going to say what is one my mind while having full respect for the institution itself and those involved.

Hating society is not going to do any good.

Hating women is not going to do any good.

Patting a bunch of “false brother’s” whose moral behavior is no different than the women they talk about is not going to do any good.

Indulging in useless hedonism is not going to do any good.

Running from society is not going to do any good, (just to form a new one paradoxically through the mgtow community).

Hoarding money with nothing to spend it on is not going to do any good.

You know what will do good? Just moving on with life and not taking a reactive approach to everything. The generation below me is f~~~ed, but saying they are f~~~ed is not going to change anything. If a brother has a relationship which is good it should be supported. If it is bad someone should point to him get out.

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