Student Op-Ed: ‘Yes Means Yes’ Is Not Enough Because Sometimes ‘Yes Means No’

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  • #48366
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    GoneGalt
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    Every week my mind reels from the vapidity, ignorance and willful stupidity of the average American female. If this continues then the human race will become extinct just to get rid of these bitches … if women refuse to take responsibility for their sex then refuse them sex in the first place. Goddamn, I need a shower.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417855/student-op-ed-yes-means-yes-not-enough-because-sometimes-yes-means-no-katherine-timpf

    In the piece, Bosiljevac explains that she and her friends even came up with a phrase to describe someone having sex with you who you didn’t want to have sex with even though you told him that you did, which they apparently consider a form of rape.

    Bosiljevac writes that she’s been dealing with the oppression of this culture her whole life — beginning with having to endure relatives kissing her cheeks “even as I winced and turned away” — and that it continues to influence her sexual decision-making abilities, almost to the point where she doesn’t seem to think she really has any ability to make those decisions at all.

    She describes one incident in particular in which she had hooked up with a guy who had asked her outright if she was okay with what was happening and she had told him “yes” — explaining that even though she had said “yes,” she had really meant “no,” and it wasn’t really entirely her fault that she couldn’t just say what she wanted.

    GoneGalt: Here’s her original article – note that the comments have been shut down, no doubt due to the negative feedback this cupcake couldn’t endure:

    http://cmcforum.com/opinion/04302015-why-yes-can-mean-no

    #48374
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    Anon Anonington
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    It’s interesting that liberated women are so sex positive, yet they are also quick to regret sex. What’s to regret when you have no shame?

    #48395
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    AFT
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    I’m confused, what about the rug munchers, that lick each other out.  If they both wear a strap on, which one is the rapist and which one the victim?  Oh, don’t worry, they’re both victims, and choose whichever man or men to blame.  Now any man can be branded by these delusional t~~~s.  Holy f~~~wad, going MGTOW isn’t going to protect me, I’m going to have to became gay, or at least pretend, that’s the last line of defense.

    When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

    #48423
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    Whomever is involved with this, are they attractive? why bother to look? The one on the left’s a cross dresser.  The one on the right’s sign, “my little black dress does not mean yes” It doesn’t have to, your face means “no” according to Jake. And it’s not even a picture of you, you must have lent your dress to that appealing model.

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #48439
    KingOfTheSea
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    Everytime I think the world is as stupid as it can possibly get, there’s always some dumbass who has to go and prove me wrong.

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    Laz
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    I’m confused, what about the rug munchers, that lick each other out. If they both wear a strap on, which one is the rapist and which one the victim? Oh, don’t worry, they’re both victims, and choose whichever man or men to blame. Now any man can be branded by these delusional t~~~s. Holy f~~~wad, going MGTOW isn’t going to protect me, I’m going to have to became gay, or at least pretend, that’s the last line of defense.

    I’m going ahead and assume that the guy who sold them the strap is the rapist

    #48482
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    Puffin Stuff
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    This is worse than Sharia law. Firstly let me say that I believe a lot of the rules and laws being past in the west were inspired by a reversal of Sharia law. Now that definition is expanded and the feminists are going beyond the worst forms of Sharia law.

    In Sharia law two women are needed to overcome the testimony of one man. In our feminist colleges, the man is not allowed to call any witnesses nor question them.

    Feminists are now churning out men who see women for who they really are. Women are humans with a deep seated, possibly biologically derived, hatred, loathing and jealousy of men.

    #icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

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    Neversaydie
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    The Fems cant just come out and say it but this is what they want…

    Retroactive rape accusation rights… I said yes, but didn’t mean it… after the fact I am pretty sure I was raped.

    Free reign to have any man arrested at any time.

    #48513
    Lazarus Long
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    Maybe its just me but this whole line of thinking has completely invalidated any possibility of a female ever being raped. If we accept that Yes can mean No then we must also accept that No can mean Yes.

    If we accept both of those then the words do not matter at all, ergo there can be no accusation of rape because the words that used to have meaning have none and cannot be used to judge intent of either party.

    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. -Terry Goodkind

    #48571
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    Let’s save the c~~~s some time. Anything you say will mean exactly anything she wants it to mean. In a court of law and everywhere else. Therefore, stay the eff away from them. By that I mean, stay the eff away from them.

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #48589
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    BrainPilot
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    I would forward to this girl the following questions: If I cannot rely on the accuracy of your word when I inquire about your consent regarding sex, perhaps we need to rethink wether or not you should be allowed to vote? If your “yes” statement in response to that young man’s inquiry about your consent for sex cannot be relied on by him to actually mean “yes”, than I submit that your signature on a written employment contract specifying terms is no more reliable an indication of your agreement to those terms. I therefore question wether or not any of your other communications can be relied upon to mean what everyone else in our society understands them to mean.

    If you cannot decide and clearly communicate your intentions and agreements with other members of society, then your unclear and deceptive communications which do not accurately represent your real intent are a menace and potential danger to the other members of the society you inhabit, as well as to yourself. (When you put your blinker on, does that actually mean you really intend to turn?). If that young man had sex with you after requesting and having had communicated to him your consent for sex, when in fact that consent did not actually exist, then he has technically committed felony rape. But that crime would not have occurred but for your deception. So, you are therefore an accessory to rape (also a felony).

    If you are incompetent to decide and clearly communicate your intent, then you belong either in an institution where these decisions can be made for you by other more reliable members of our society, or in a country governed by Sharia law (no driving, no voting, no contracting for yourself) where they’ll be made for you by whatever men in your family have been saddled with the responsibility of making them for you. This is not me trying to oppress you and take from you your rights of self determination, this is you advertising publicly that you are not competent to make and reliably communicate your own decisions of self determination, and me explaining to you the options that exist for those folks who have been deemed incompetent to make and express their own decisions.

    As for blaming society’s crushing pressures and expectations on you for your inability to make and communicate what your actual intent is… I submit that the society you are blaming is populated by a slight majority of women, and that the political will of that society is directed to a disproportionately much larger degree by the will of those same women, as they are FAR more vocal and politically active than their opposing minority. After all, it was a foundational expectation of the patriarchy that imposed on you the expectation that you remain a virgin until married, and a defining goal of feminism that you be liberated from that expectation and freed up to have the option to have all the sex you wanted outside of marriage, without consequence to yourself. It was your feminist sisters who gave you that option and empowered you to choose it. Having control of the majority of the political will, they could, and did exactly that. Yet, the patriarchy they vilified allows you to still have the option to remain a virgin until married if you so choose. That was the option being offered to you when that young man said directly to you, “Is this OK?”.

    So tell me again exactly what society you are speaking of that exerted so much external pressure on you that you became unable to internally decide and communicate back what your preferred options are? And then explain to me what you think a society should do with the people who have identified themselves as incompetent to make and communicate decisions about themselves… that subsequently create a risk to themselves and the other members of that society?

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

    #48781
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    TheBard
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    Bosiljevac also throws racism and homophobia into the blame-game mix, asserting that “consent is a privilege, and it was built for wealthy, heterosexual, cis, white, western, able-bodied masculinity. . . . When you’re poor, disabled, queer, non-white, trans, or feminine, ‘no’ isn’t for you.”

    The f~~~? What is it with these people and thinking being a cis, straight, and white male is like being Superman? This is a perfect example of how feminism teaches women to be weak and victims. I had a female friend I liked and wanted to date, but she didn’t feel that way and she was Asian. You know what she said to me? No. She constantly said it because she didn’t like me like that. And did a rape or beat her for saying no? No, I just kept acting like a little bitch by trying to buy her stuff and pay for lunch even though she kept telling me no lol.

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