Strong & independent, but take care of me

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

We’ve all heard the “strong & independent wymyn” bit already. This is the first quote i’ve seen after she changes her mind.

[SpacemonkeyParticipant 1481]

The correct response to the question “Are you intimidated by strong independent wimin?”

Is

“I wouldn’t know, love. I have never met one”

“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

[narwhalParticipant]

Tons of women claim that ‘title’ yet don’t meet the standards. I have met a few that do though, usually in my professional life.

I can’t say I’ve really pursued too many romantically though. I’ve dated a few, but mostly stay away. Not because I was intimidated, but because I don’t match well with that type. I don’t like the feeling that I’m being provided for by someone or that I’m not successful enough in my life. Being involved with a woman who is more successful/confident then me doesn’t make me feel that great much of the time. As well, I tend to feel like I don’t have that much to offer in those scenarios. I’m just the boy toy.

I can think of two examples where I dated women like that. One was a high profile staffing agent. She was divorced with two teenage boys, but did not take any child support money, didn’t need it. She was a former model and very confident. Had a personal trainer at an exclusive club for her and her boys and a lots of stuff like that. We had 2-3 dates that went well, but I knew all along that we were not that great a match. I just went along for the ride (and a great ride it was!) I was not too surprised at all when she just disappeared, and I really didn’t blame her.

2nd case was a woman who ran her own spray tanning business, catering to pro body builders (so yes, she basically sprayed down built naked men for money). Before that, she was a counselor for a plastic surgery office. She was in excellent shape (both naturally and artificially) and extremely confident. She was just too dominant for my tastes…wanted to control things in the bedroom, etc. No thank you.

I didn’t get the sense that either of these women were looking to be taken care of in a relationship…same way I’m not looking to be taken care. Just wanted companionship and physical needs met.

Ok. Then do it.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Yeah, so independent but they’ll happily take alimony, child support, government support, and section 8 housing. Yep, real strong there sweetheart.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

Spacemonkey wrote:

The correct response to the question “Are you intimidated by strong independent wimin?”

Is

“I wouldn’t know, love. I have never met one”

This is a fairly accurate response. Women have a whole host of social benefits from government and charities that aren’t afforded to men. They have fallback plans and no woman is ever 100% independant. Even without this, they can get a whole bunch of white knights to bend over backwards for them.

I’ve never had the unfortunate position of being homeless, but i suspect a woman would find herself taken care of and put in a shelter while a man would just be left to fend for himself on the street.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10910]

Absolutely they’ll take all that. Then they’ll justify that by saying that “the law says that that is what I am entitled to.” At one time the law said that women couldn’t vote and slavery was legal. Did the fact that the law said it was legal make it right?
Strong and independent is womanese for, “I’m a bitch and acting the way I do makes me FEEL strong and independent.”

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[the roadParticipant 3125]

My last ex took a jab at me once. She said “I didn’t know that you were so dependent on your mom”. She said this in regard to my mother doing something nice for my son and I. My mother is involved with my son and likes to offer help and I like her to spend time with him. Nothing wrong in the world with that, right? I live on my own, maintain my house by myself- laundry, lawns, shopping- you name it. I pay all my bills by myself, I have a retirement account and a college account for my son, I cook dinner at night after I pick my son up from school, do homework with him, reading, etc, etc….. I also have my son more than 50% and have had spans where I have him almost 100%. I can do everything by my f~~~ing self.

This beeotch was trying to imply that I myself am dependent on my mother when she has a son and lives at home with her mother! What the f~~~?! Nice try loser. Trying to pretend that she is hardcore and independent and does everything by herself and that I cannot.

One of the things that seemed to signal the end was when I reiterated that I wanted things to be equal in what we pay. This was after she made a comment/complaint about me asking her to pay for dinner a couple times. So independent! This current generation of women have no problem throwing their “independence” in men’s faces while also double dipping and expecting them to foot the bill for everything.

#MANOUT

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Crap, the original image isn’t coming through for some reason – sorry ’bout that. Full text follows, raw link at bottom:

“She’s strong.
But in the back of
her mind she doesn’t
think she was meant
to be this strong
for this long.
and she wonders if
there’s a man out
there, somewhere,
who understands this.

JimStorm”

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[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

“Independently depending on men” f~~~ them!!

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[AttonParticipant]

The whole strong & independent mantra is the biggest lie women tell. By virtue of them playing this line you can confirm that it is indeed untrue, that they are “strong and independent” In fact you can also conclude that said woman is a complete f~~~ing liar. No one who is truly strong wears it on their sleeves and throws it into a persons face. The people who do that kind of crap are often pathetic insecure juveniles who have no understanding of those two words.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Most of the brainless trollops who claim to be strong and independent usually
live in section 8 housing or “rent control” apartments.

Avoid them like the plague.

[BestlifeornothingParticipant 24]

This is interesting. I have dealings with a female that is looking for a relationship and constantly calls herself independent, but her monthly expenses exceeds her income. I have not figured out how that works yet. Independent (in my mind) means that you have your s~~~ together and you need no one for anything. I guess when female logic is applied, you are independent because you speaketh thy independence I guess.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Bestlifeornothing wrote:

This is interesting. I have dealings with a female that is looking for a relationship and constantly calls herself independent,

So have I. Back in my dating days, the really independent ones would not have a thing to do with me, except put me in their friend zone and try to leech every now and then.
The phony independents were a lot more willing and compliant. At first. Once they thought the hook was set, they started in on the usual.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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