STAY AWAY FROM THEM

[Anonymous 3]

Keeping up with the schedule of this month this next contribution was sponsored by Sidecar, our distinct member and most valid contributor.

sidecar wrote:

Clu wrote:

would you give it a chance?

You give them a chance because you know they’ll fu​ck it up long before they have an opportunity to screw you. AWALT.
This way their rejection is their fault in a way that you can rub their noses in.
Men who get fu​cked by women get fu​cked only after giving them second chances. It’s giving her that second chance that gives her the confidence that she can safely go for his throat.

There is a statement from KM that is a great advice:”one chance, per woman, per life”.
If we think about this, what is the context? It is clear that you give women chance in sinfulness of relationship, most likely romantic.

Now, as the quote of our distinct college says, women will always screw up, because its their nature and society encourages them. AWALT! All women are like that.

Like what? For the sake of clarity, and lurker education, I will state what happens: eventually women try to control you with their mind games, or lose their self-control and create drama.

This is a simple statement, with huge implications.

Female nature is predatory, it preys on men. It is not only for resources, but also for services, and emotional security.
As any hunter they set up the bait, and that is looks, sex and emotional validation. That is how women get men.

But, as other hunters, the bait is just to distract the prey, they secure men with psychological weapons or set up traps.

The traps are easy to see. Commitment is the most common, usually based on society contracts like marriage or other relationships, bonding the man through his pledges. The greatest trap is children, that women use with great effectiveness, since men usually sacrifice a lot for their kids.

But the psychological weapons at their disposal are also formidable. They explore the man’s psyche to understand what makes him tick. What does he like, what does the hate, what is his fear. Then they play with words, events, and develop amazingly cunning narratives. The purpose is to weaken the men’s will and security, in order to establish a dependency. They MAKE HIM abandon friend, hobbies, and sometimes family. The is how powerful this weapons are.

I am not talking of extreme examples, but a general mode of operation. The level of success of these strategies depends on the man, on his resilience, his awareness, willpower and experience.

So, what I am saying is that women have this standard mode of operation that will wreak havoc in your life, and possibly bind you with long term commitments.

What KeyMaster was saying, and Sidecar explained, is that YOU KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN, so you MUST BE ALERT to the first sign and use it to WALK AWAY.

That my friends, is like saying: you take the bait and RUN when the Hunter comes for the kill.

Saying it like that doesn’t sound good, does it?

Even KM, with his great story about that date at dinner hinting to the staff about domestic violence, had to deploy that safeguard of calling the cab just for her, and tipping the driver so that he called him when she was safely delivered to the destination, and then staying in the restaurant for a while just to make sure nobody could accuse him of anything…

See where I am going? Being the prey is not a good position, you have to be looking all the time, with the utmost attention, for the inevitable blow. And what is the nature of the attack? Its unpredictable, because we are not dealing with rational and stable people.

All for what? For the small, infinitesimal chance, of finding a unicorn?

Or is it the hunger so great that we must live from scraps, out of BAIT laid out to get us?

That might be enough for some men, but they are living dangerously, and especially living a lie.

Because that “bait”, that “sugar, spice, and everything nice” is not what women are. The true face of females is only seen by a man after he is caught (usually in marriage) and its not pretty. That is why the majority of marriages fail, and most of the remaining ones have miserable men.

And now women are quick to show their true nature, sometimes before even set up a trap or get any advantage… They are losing the restraints, the small amount of self-control that would allow them to behave until they trap a man. On the other hand society is brainwashing men to accept them anyway.

So, I say, STAY AWAY FROM THEM! There is little to be gained, and the little remaining is fake anyway.

STAY AWAY FROM A LIFE OF MISERY.

STAY AWAY FROM THE LIE.

And last, I am just making my case based in experience, my own and of countless men.

There is no SHOULD, MUST or any call for OBLIGATIONS, SHAME or HONOR.

These are the manipulative tools used to make us go against our best interests. These are the female tools and the tools of gynocentric society.

I have no interests invest in what you do. I am just saying it as I see it. YOU go your own way.

But it would be to your best interests to STAY AWAY FROM THEM!

[MonkParticipant 16994]

Anonymous wrote:

What KeyMaster was saying, and Sidecar explained, is that YOU KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN, so you MUST BE ALERT to the first sign and use it to WALK AWAY.

A man who understands AWALT and that it will happen, wouldn’t be there in the first place. Simply being there paints a target on your back.

[Anonymous 3]

What the hell happened here?

I am writing this in Android, so there are plenty of autocorrect changes that go unnoticed. I have to fix it afterwards…

So, editing the post created a new post?

[MonkParticipant 16994]

Anonymous wrote:

What the hell happened here?
I am writing this in Android, so there are plenty of autocorrect changes that go unnoticed. I have to fix it afterwards…
So, editing the post created a new post?

You probably clicked on quote, rather than edit. That gets you a duplicate.

I’ve done it myself.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

All for what? For the small, infinitesimal chance, of finding a unicorn?

Or is it the hunger so great that we must live from scraps, out of BAIT laid out to get us?

That might be enough for some men, but they are living dangerously, and especially living a lie.

Because that “bait”, that “sugar, spice, and everything nice” is not what women are. The true face of females is only seen by a man after he is caught (usually in marriage) and its not pretty. That is why the majority of marriages fail, and most of the remaining ones have miserable men.

I’m not going to say these are universal truths. But the “average guy” has no idea just how cunning and conniving a woman can be. I know I didn’t. I thought it was just like that in the movies. That most people, most women, are decent people deep down. That there is a baseline amount of common decency in almost everyone.

I was wrong. I had no idea the depths of their ability to to purposefully hurt someone that they had promised to love and cherish. Even though I hadn’t fundamentally changed, I was the same guy she made that promise to. All I had done in the mean time is everything I could be help us build a better life.

For the record, men can act like that too. But I do think the average guy is a nicer person than the average girl. That average girl still gets hit on a lot and realizes that she has power over 75% of guys. And as far as guys acting like that, well I don’t date guys so it’s not my problem.

Order the good wine

[Anonymous 3]

TaxGuy wrote:

For the record, men can act like that too. But I do think the average guy is a nicer person than the average girl.

Its interesting that if a man raises the slightest problem about women, the gynocentric society immediately retorts “men also…”
So, I understand that you make this disclaimer.

I would make the same disclaimer, there are really bad men out there, but then I asked myself: “but what does that have to do with what I am saying about women?”
It is not like speaking about male rapists immediately leads to say there are also criminal females. It fact it never happens.

However there are plenty of talk bout s~~~ty men, the abusive, the jealous, the criminal. A person constantly hears about this and how “men need to change”. Only a woman living under a rock would ignore the existence of bad men.

However women systematically prefer bad men! Instead of being deterrent, it appears to attract them!

What we dont talk about is the real female nature. Whenever it is alluded its silenced with accusations of misogyny. It is men that walk in ignorance into the trap of relationship.

[EGParticipant 1853]

Anonymous wrote:

Commitment is the most common, usually based on society contracts like marriage or other relationships, bonding the man through his pledges.

I’m going dissect this and and hopefully add value. What I want to zoom into is the concept of a “community organizer”, and of duty. One must be careful around these characters. Here’s why: men (and women) are influenced to get off their butts and go to work every day because there’s a boss who holds the key to their financial survival. It’s a pretty reliable system for making sure everyone abides by the job duties they’ve agreed to, whatever they are.

So let’s say one day you’re at a bar or other social spot and someone starts to get in your grill about how you should do more of x y z to fulfill your social obligation to the community. For the sake of brevity let’s assume zhe is a feminist using “she/her” pronouns.

Okay firstly, where’s the rest of the community while this person is interrogating you about your lack of fulfillment? Is there really any way of knowing whether she is speaking for the community or for her own clique or flying-monkey quad, or even just for herself? She believes it’s her job to convince you that the rest of the community even gives a s~~~ about the issue or need she wants you, personally, to address. She may be getting paid for it, or maybe not. Either way, some community organizers do great work. Some others want commitment in order to boost themselves among their ranks of other community organizers; it’s an ego and power thing. So when you’re ever blind-sided by someone cornering you in a conversation and making you feel roped into an obligation to fulfill some invisible ‘social contract’, do you see the whole community standing behind her and nodding, or is there just one person there, setting you up for subservience so you will take orders?

If she assigns herself the arbiter of what you should be doing instead of whatever else you are doing, she has covertly taken on the role of your new boss, no? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss….except you don’t get paid for following this boss’s orders. You (supposedly) get accolades from the community you served. Ever wonder whether that community even gave a sh!t? Ever wonder if they even noticed? Or, ever wonder if they all saw you and thought you were a sucker for taking orders from that creep who calls herself a “community organizer”? What if she’s the only person within said community who refers to herself as such?

Here’s the thing, and this is ESPECIALLY true if you are already involved in the community on any level doing volunteer or other community-oriented efforts: what the “community organizer” is attempting to do is to halt your own work. Think about that. Even if no one is depending on you, such as in the case for someone in the creative field who might write music or literature, you may never get your own work done if you put it aside to start pulling someone else’s cart.

It’s okay to disappoint people. This notion opened up a whole new world for me in my 40s. I can look back and see so many times where I was being a people-pleaser. I remember noticing when I was marching with the Occupiers how certain community organizers had a knack for getting me to agree to some small favor and end up obligated to do so much more. It was a sh!tty feeling. It was also a huge red flag for me at the time I decided to ditch my involvement with Occupy. Community organizing is a hustle. There is no shortage of ways manipulative people can harness your energy for their own gain, egos, or even amusement. What if instead you fulfill your own legacy and see if it serves the community even better?

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

TaxGuy wrote:

I’m not going to say these are universal truths. But the “average guy” has no idea just how cunning and conniving a woman can be. I know I didn’t. I thought it was just like that in the movies. That most people, most women, are decent people deep down. That there is a baseline amount of common decency in almost everyone.I was wrong. I had no idea the depths of their ability to to purposefully hurt someone that they had promised to love and cherish. Even though I hadn’t fundamentally changed, I was the same guy she made that promise to. All I had done in the mean time is everything I could be help us build a better life. For the record, men can act like that too. But I do think the average guy is a nicer person than the average girl. That average girl still gets hit on a lot and realizes that she has power over 75% of guys. And as far as guys acting like that, well I don’t date guys so it’s not my problem.

You have LEARNED through first hand experience as I have, and we have logically concluded that we don’t need to cohabitate or get married again to go through the whole process all over again.

It’s truly unfortunate that most Men will keep bouncing from one failed relationship to another and/or suffer through multiple marriages as well, but they will never learn….

I asked an older Man one day that I’m acquainted with that I understand why any man can get duped into marriage, but WHATEVER in the world made him do it a second time.

He smiled and laughed while saying, “Because I THOUGHT it would be different. Why else would I have done it???” After #2 he dated, but he never cohabitated or married again.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[MonkParticipant 16994]

EG wrote:

Either way, some community organizers do great work. Some others want commitment in order to boost themselves among their ranks of other community organizers; it’s an ego and power thing.

In my experience, the vast majority have a bad motive.

So when you’re ever blind-sided by someone cornering you in a conversation and making you feel roped into an obligation to fulfill some invisible ‘social contract’, do you see the whole community standing behind her and nodding, or is there just one person there, setting you up for subservience so you will take orders? What if she’s the only person within said community who refers to herself as such?

They are invariably self-appointed. The sheeple then follow the one who shouts the loudest. Most people will follow the bully.

Community organizing is a hustle. There is no shortage of ways manipulative people can harness your energy for their own gain, egos, or even amusement.

Yes. Even if they start out okay, the vast majority of the time ‘community projects/local charities’ turn into ego props and money sponges for a clique. Opportunists always home in and take them over. Then they go bad.

Having been burned repeatedly, I no longer volunteer for anything. It is okay to say ‘No’, and when they start with the moral blackmail, to tell them where to get off.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6406]

I just really like these discussions about cunning. I also like to read about views and experiences with women and spending.
Do you remember Stealthy? His free association posts were life changing .. for me.
Paraphrasing Stealthy .. “Woman will spend tens of thousands on decorating the house .. I just buy a couple of posters for The Cave.”

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Awakened wrote:

I asked an older Man one day that I’m acquainted with that I understand why any man can get duped into marriage, but WHATEVER in the world made him do it a second time.

He smiled and laughed while saying, “Because I THOUGHT it would be different. Why else would I have done it???” After #2 he dated, but he never cohabitated or married again.

I get it the first time, but it takes one of the world’s greatest saleswomen to convince a guy to go BACK down the isle. I’ve said that to more than one woman. Their response would lead me to believe that they aren’t particularly fond of that statement.

Order the good wine

[tripvanParticipant 193]

EG wrote:

Community organizing is a hustle. There is no shortage of ways manipulative people can harness your energy for their own gain, egos, or even amusement. What if instead you fulfill your own legacy and see if it serves the community even better?

Inspiring, thank you!

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I wanted a child and clearly saw the risks of having a child with some random woman given the rights women have over men, tender years doctrine, ect.

But being a boyfriend is much weaker than being a live in biological father in custody court.

So the day she kissed me goodbye for the day while she really was slinking out to move 8 hrs away, basically eliminating my custodial rights, I was ready. I had made certain to spend as much time with my son as my ex did. My ex wasn’t really into her son at first so we had a nanny that spent 8 hrs I was at work, caring for the newborn. We took care of him in shifts so we could quantitate how much each of us did and, even though I worked and she didn’t, I got up half the nights for the late night diaper changes etc.

So when she left I requested the court return him to his stable household. She told the court that she could care for him if I continued to pay her nanny. She needed the nanny, she couldn’t take care of her own child. And she told the court.

My son was returned to my full custody from that time, 9 months, until 3 years when we changed things to 50/50 shared custody to which I agreed, big mistake.

So, being married may be the best way to make sure you have a fair shake in family court.

And after living through it I don’t recommend an un-amicable divorce.

Men need to learn to walk away from all of it.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Anonymous 3]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

So, being married may be the best way to make sure you have a fair shake in family court.

I would like to explain why our most distinct member makes the obvious contradiction of terms “fair shake” and “family court”.

We all know that for men, family court is never fair, they only “shake” resources out of men.

You see, Puffin Staff’s experience was probably near two decades ago. Things were bad, but not nearly as bad as they are now.

I am sorry for the men out there that want to have kids. Either you submit to the drama, emotional abuse, and permanent risk of losing your kids (and house, shirt, job or freedom), or you give up the dream and refuse to give another hostage to the gynocentric system.

Us old guys remember a different life. I remember before no-fault divorce, when women used to trick men into leaving the house (usually by fighting and nagging him to death) so that they could claim home abandon. Yea, back then women knew all the tricks from the hive and men had no idea about what they were doing.

Now you have all this information, and things are so patently worst, that it is impossible not to know: the only way is to STAY AWAY FROM THEM.

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