Starting over… again at 33.

[christopherParticipant 12]

I’m still married, but I live on the couch. My wife is moving back to her home country in May of next year. I have started pursuing an associates of applied science in web design. I want to be a developer. Really, I want to work from home on a computer. I started watching youtube videos on HTML, CSS, and Bootstrap, and I’m taking these terrible social media and e-commerce classes online this summer. What a waste of time; not to mention social media class makes me look like a douche on the web. I start taking code classes in the fall. I don’t think a person is ever too old to start over.

I will graduate about the time my wife leaves, and so will begin my epic journey west to Oregon. I live in Illinois. This is not the first time I will be going off into the void to begin again. I did it after I divorced my First wife. I did it again when I moved to Azerbaijan, (with 300 dollars and 1 bag of clothes), I did it, when I moved here to STL with 500 bucks and not a single friend. I rebuild. Sometimes with more, and sometimes with less. I don’t think this college degree is going to give me much of an advantage, but Ill get it anyway. Not because I think I’m going to start some great career that will solve all my problems, (I have a lot of them), but because I f~~~ing want to learn. Plus I have all this GI Bill money to spend.

Wish me luck as I go my own way, and attempt to do it as a singularity without the leash of desire for romantic companionship. I hope that I have the courage to see the failures of my past, and stay true to myself above all else. If anyone has any advice I would be glad to hear it.

[Anonymous 6]

Don’t be running with the Joneses, save your money!

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Anonymous wrote:

Don’t be running with the Joneses, save your money!

There is not much difference between impressing the neighbors and impressing a woman. Both are money pits which are best avoided.

[Anonymous 18]

It’s easy to read things here and elsewhere about men’s experiences with women and see it as a hypothetical situation. Something a man himself won’t encounter.

After 2 strikes you known better.

Your biology, feminist propaganda (academics, media, entertainment etc) may emphasize a man’s true happiness in a woman’s company, but that is all to make her happy. She gets a free punching bag and slave.

Understand that you are your own person. You haven’t realized your potential because you were distracted to look beyond yourself for meaning and validation.

Do what you desire to do within reasonable grounds. Your destinations and goals will change but the process of learning about yourself is the key.

No woman or relationship will ever give you a deep sense of peace and harmony.

Only you can.

Best wishes.

And 33 is young. Start a healthy lifestyle- gym, diet, quality stimulation for your mind, and avoid women.

You will feel like a new man. MGTOW guarantees that!

[joetechParticipant]

Why are you choosing Oregon? I can’t think of a more gynocentric state wit the exception of Washington.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[christopherParticipant 12]

Two reasons I guess. One, it was the place I was born, and that I lived most of my life; I think we are all drawn to the places we are from. Second, Oregon has a lot of natural and wild landscape. The ocean beaches are rough, and even dangerous in some places. I enjoy that ferocity. There is no argument that would sway me from my decided destination. Oregon is in my heart as much as skateboarding barefoot, playing music in my band, and cooking with cast iron.

On a side note. I personally believe our entire country to be failing men. We are not appreciated nor treated with dignity anywhere in western society. That is why I am MGTOW.

Any MRA will believe whole heartedly that society is gynocentric; any feminist would believe whole heartedly that society is phallocentric. I believe society is f~~~ed. #MGTOW

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

You got the title of your post wrong. It should be, “Breaking free… again at 33.”
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You’ve just cleared your path and have everything in front of you now. Don’t jeopardize it again. Go live and be free.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

christopher wrote:

Two reasons I guess. One, it was the place I was born, and that I lived most of my life; I think we are all drawn to the places we are from. Second, Oregon has a lot of natural and wild landscape. The ocean beaches are rough, and even dangerous in some places. I enjoy that ferocity. There is no argument that would sway me from my decided destination. Oregon is in my heart as much as skateboarding barefoot, playing music in my band, and cooking with cast iron.

On a side note. I personally believe our entire country to be failing men. We are not appreciated nor treated with dignity anywhere in western society. That is why I am MGTOW.

Any MRA will believe whole heartedly that society is gynocentric; any feminist would believe whole heartedly that society is phallocentric. I believe society is f~~~ed. #MGTOW

Nostalgia. That’s why. But don’t let nostalgia be the thing that keeps you making bad decisions. I would never move back to a place I used to live. There is a reason why I left. The same is true for relations~~~s. If you broke up with someone don’t tuck your tail between your legs and go back. After a short while you’ll be reminded why you left. Same again with jobs.

Things seldom change. That’s reality. Very few people ever go back to a job and are better off or happier than they were before they left the first time. Relationships remind people of their other’s bad habits and behaviors which always surface no matter how much they try to lie and convince the other they’ve changed. Old habits die hard. If you’re going to consider a new career, do it someplace new. Do your research on areas where that field is in demand and then investigate if those are good environments for you to live.

[Anonymous 43]

I’m 47 and I want to take the same things you are taking. No you are not too old to start over

[christopherParticipant 12]

This is really great advice. You have challenged my thoughts and processes. Thank you. @IRuleMe

[Anonymous 1]

I wish you the best of luck… I did what you’re doing (starting over) three times in my life.

I will only say that as you get older (40ish) it gets a lot harder to make new friends (especially if you’re not in a relations~~~ / social circle of hell)

If you find yourself in that situ (moved and have no friends, not the ralations~~~!), find some hobbies where you can interact with other people (mostly men) and join some clubs. It can be as simple as a motorcycle club.

Or do what I’ve done, I’ve started my own brewery, so I have tons of “friends” (that aren’t really friends, they’re only there for the beer).

[christopherParticipant 12]

I have two really serious hobbies. I write music, and ride motorcycles. It usually takes me about a year to find three or four good friends in a new area. I never really have more than 5 friends at a time! I’m in a band here in Illinois, but I can’t afford a bike right now. Maybe next year.

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