Solidarity

[Bob BashboshParticipant 160]

Hi brethren,

Firstly, I apologise in advance if I start to ramble, I have a tendency to get caught up in my own thought processes. Secondly, I want to express my sincere gratitude to the founders and members of the MGTOW movement, without whom, many men, myself included, would still be wandering the lonely path of social isolationism and reluctant withdrawal. So without further ado..

I discovered the MGTOW movement after reading an insightful article in a Sunday Times supplement a few weeks ago which, considering the author was female, was remarkably unbiased. I’ve since kept the article as it serves as a reminder to me that, contrary to my previous assumption that I was a lone dissenter, there was already a sizeable and ever growing community of like minds out there with whom I could seek support and solidarity – I feel emancipated.

At varying points in my life, I’ve flirted with so many of the defining philosophies so descriptively expressed within the MGTOW lexicon, that, as I reflect on my experiences to date, I wonder how it took so long for me to discover my true sense of self. In my formative years, I was a confident child and often thoughtless and arrogant. In my teens, I suffered the humility of bullying at school which resulted in my becoming an ardent recluse and ever since, I’ve committed much of my spare time to the pursuit of better understanding the environment into which I was born. I’m an unrepentant cynic and I view most social conventions with great scepticism.

In regards to women, I can only say that my love life has been a compendium of unfulfilled expectations, personal conflicts and reluctant compromises. As an insecure teenager, struggling with a pervasive sense of inadequacy, I felt that I could compensate by being all things to all women. I would be kind, supportive, sympathetic, attentive and loyal – all the things I was told, by the females in my life, that women appreciated. I was confounded then, when all the egomaniacal male peers around me would frequently boast of their sexual exploits and the manner in which they were pursued. Such phrases as “treat them mean, keep them keen” so advocated by these paragons of masculinity seemed to be the very antithesis of all that I’d been taught.

In any case, I rejected such vulgar behaviour in favour of a more tactical, cerebral approach. I would charm them with conversation and treat them, as I would, any amiable associate. I quickly discovered that all my hot tickets were coming to me for ’emotional support’ and more insulting still, as a sort of ‘relationship guidance counsellor’. I was too bashful to openly express my underlying sentiments for them and too conscientious to sever ties with them. I had hoped that my subtle approach would complement my more overt body language but either they didn’t notice or didn’t care.to notice.

Anyway, after a long and ultimately fruitless string of assorted FWB style dating episodes, I finally hooked one. Again, we started off engaging as platonic ‘soul-mates’ which, during a frank and open exchange of feelings one evening, culminated in a night of frenzied sexual activity. Bizarrely, I went to bed with my dream girl and woke up with a stranger. All of a sudden, expectations were laid at my feet, aspects of my daily routine were reorganised and amended and arrangements for prospective in-law visits were scheduled. After some months, I realised that I had become utterly preoccupied with keeping her happy. Like a drug, her rewards became decreasingly proportional to the sacrifices I was making. Inevitably, the ‘relationship’ ended acrimoniously after my parents and friends, so despairing of my situation, intervened. I tried to argue in her defence but was overwhelmed by rational observation. All that came at the cost of my degree, my friends and what little confidence I’d cautiously accrued in the intervening years since leaving school.

So, for several years thereafter, I returned to an ‘almost’ celibate lifestyle punctuated by the occasional casual fling but my heart just wasn’t in it any more. My reluctance to commit was no longer about protecting myself from emotional pain since I no longer recognised relationships as a social imperative. The sad irony is, that since I stopped chasing, several wonderful women have tried to strike up relationships with me and have been exceptionally accommodating of my somewhat idiosyncratic philosophy but I haven’t been able to fully reciprocate their love. Another strange paradox is that I find that my sex drive is all but non-existent which presents a genuine challenge when engaging in intimate relations – It feels like a chore or an unwelcome obligation. Ironically, I find myself unintentionally sabotaging my relationships by distancing myself.

So, at present, I have a girlfriend, if that’s an apt description, residing in America who visits every six months or so and we chat daily by skype. I can’t help feeling that I’m doing an injustice to her though since I’m not sure I can ever go back to being a ‘relationship’ man.

Incidentally, I realise that whilst little of the content of my unwieldy account would appear to be intrinsically MGTOW in nature, I have long recognised the pervasive and wholly destructive influence of militant feminism. So much of my life has been determined for me by social constraints imposed on me by a misguided, so called, ‘liberal’ elite whose unholy and toxic alliance with assorted agents of unnatural social engineering has forced me to reject aspects of my personality that would otherwise serve as a reassuring basis around which I could define my identity. Thank you for showing men like myself what it is to feel part of a group again.

[VeniversumParticipant 492]

The world rewards bad behavior. Until people individually decide no longer to do so, things will always be terrible. It’s a rude awakening for those of us who have love in our hearts to realize that the world isn’t at all the way that we were told it is. Almost everything is a lie. Furthermore, deception is continuously rewarded, whereas honesty punished. Unfortunately, it may take civilizations hundreds of more years to change, if at all. So, waiting around for others until we’re blue in the face isn’t an option. We must focus on bettering ourselves, and then using our intellect and influence to improve the world. The people who contributed the most to the world are seldom thought of… but eventually when there is a public absence of them, they will be missed and even sought out. People are ungrateful now and don’t appreciate anything. They all want instant gratification. They were trained this way by the economic systems..

[Anonymous 26]

Welcome Bob,

Am fairly recently new here too, but already I am amazed and floored that despite the various age gap, race, religion and geographical locations of members………….. that so many of us have walked common roads in life that finally (and thankfully) lead us to Mgtow!

Great read, and only two edits (had I typed out something that long I’d have at least ten edits to do).

CHEERS!

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome, and ramble all you want!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Bob BashboshParticipant 160]

Thank you for the warm welcome Veni, Paul and Roy, It’s an honour to feel accepted.

Veni, I couldn’t agree more, the conspicuous prominence of undesirable personality types residing at the top of any social hierarchy that one cares to review only serves to cement my cynical outlook. I recall the moment when I unwittingly discovered the existence of a program called ‘The Apprentice’ and how my heart sank as I witnessed the systematic elevation of sociopathic behaviour into a contemporary virtue. After swallowing that red pill, I became acutely aware of just how engrained this new doctrine had become. I recall the time when a good friend of mine invited me to join her freinds on a night out and as I took leave of their company to seek a designated smoking area, I was confronted by a 20-something girl who’s opening introduction was “so what do you do?”, I told her I was “between jobs”, to which she replied “so you’re bum. I worked my way up the ladder and now I head up a department of seventy staff!”. It was clear she actually felt contemptuous of me and that her life was so absent of meaning and purpose that her only real joy was in mocking her perceived subordinates.

[edit] Whoops, and Paul, thanks again for the kind words. I confess, I got lucky on that post, they’re normally littered with mistakes. 😛
[edit] Thank you Roy, it’s very liberating getting it all out.

[Bob BashboshParticipant 160]

Thank you Redpill, it’s an honour to take part. 🙂

[Anonymous 42]

Bob Bashbosh wrote:

So much of my life has been determined for me by social constraints imposed on me by a misguided, so called, ‘liberal’ elite whose unholy and toxic alliance with assorted agents of unnatural social engineering has forced me to reject aspects of my personality that would otherwise serve as a reassuring basis around which I could define my identity.

Hi Bob! So what you’re saying in one word is “deluded”, we’re deluded by feminism whereas they have been pumping estrothinking into men’s spirits for decades!

Welcome to the worlds largest mantronium reactor! We have a gynogenie that sweeps all estrogen saturation from the floor! It creates a pure environment for the gynocentrifuges to perform properly, not to mention how feminism contaminates the mantronium reactor and stops the mantron bombardment process! It’s the same thing as adding Iron oxide to the uranium in a nuclear core! DUD!
For a while now, we’ve been producing weapons grade!

[Bob BashboshParticipant 160]

Hahaha.. MG!!!! After my registration and before I could post, I read several of your threads and they had me in stitches.

You’re so right re: estrothinking. I see that so many youngsters today are sporting beautifully coiffured hair and distinctly effeminate clothing. Their idealism has been corrupted and distorted so that, like a generation of bewildered and unwitting prison detainees, they seem to be blinkered by a warped sense of natural propriety. It’s like a contagious form of Stockholm syndrome.

I believe that your impressive contributions to the field of theoretical physics and mantronium energy liberation will one day earn you the International recognition you deserve. It truly is an honour! 😀

[Anonymous 29]

Good reading Bob.
Good to know you are ok and welcome.

[Bob BashboshParticipant 160]

Why thank you DRS! Love the Steptoe piccie! hahaha

[Anonymous 29]

Bob Bashbosh wrote:

Love the Steptoe piccie! hahaha

Love the fact you know who it is.

[Bob BashboshParticipant 160]

Anonymous wrote:

Love the fact you know who it is.

Hahaha, my Scousse mates are all fanatical about the program so I was exposed to a lot of reruns as we chilled in the shed with 6 packs and smokes. <sigh> Those were the days…

[TheDigestedRedPillParticipant 165]

What t~~~. F~~~ing taking your s~~~ and rearranging it. Tell the bitch to get her own f~~~ing life to rearrange.

Keeping a girlfriend and taking Red Pills is difficult enough let alone if your going through Red Pill Rage like me. I would almost burst open and tear the relationship apart. Almost destroy. But whatever your situation is brethren I wish you well and high hopes for this New Year.

In Good Fashion my friend WELCOME TO MGTOW !!!!!

Society live's as if we have reached the pinnacle of human potential. Technological Advancement and Innovation, intellectualism, critical thinking is substituted for useless innovations, nasty narcissistic games, tyrannical laws that destroy the very foundation of family, and the world as we know it.

[Bob BashboshParticipant 160]

TheDigestedRedPill wrote:

What t~~~. F~~~ing taking your s~~~ and rearranging it. Tell the bitch to get her own f~~~ing life to rearrange.

Keeping a girlfriend and taking Red Pills is difficult enough let alone if your going through Red Pill Rage like me. I would almost burst open and tear the relationship apart. Almost destroy. But whatever your situation is brethren I wish you well and high hopes for this New Year.

In Good Fashion my friend WELCOME TO MGTOW !!!!!

Why thank you TDRP, for the warm welcome and the moral support. As I say, that particularly disastrous relationship concluded some years ago and destructive though it was, it did FINALLY force me to confront some realities of life. I didn’t GMOW as a public gesture of indignation, I was just exhausted trying to live up to other people’s expectations, especially those of women. I don’t think women are inherently manipulative but I do think that they’re often highly charged, passionate and often irrational creatures. Society has done both sexes an enormous injustice by fomenting discord in what should always have been a natural symbiosis.

[TheDigestedRedPillParticipant 165]

Bob I know this is late but welcome brother.

Society live's as if we have reached the pinnacle of human potential. Technological Advancement and Innovation, intellectualism, critical thinking is substituted for useless innovations, nasty narcissistic games, tyrannical laws that destroy the very foundation of family, and the world as we know it.

[TheDigestedRedPillParticipant 165]

You know this is what I get for drinking too many beers replying twice to a thread I already replied to. *facepalm*

Society live's as if we have reached the pinnacle of human potential. Technological Advancement and Innovation, intellectualism, critical thinking is substituted for useless innovations, nasty narcissistic games, tyrannical laws that destroy the very foundation of family, and the world as we know it.

[BufordParticipant 935]

Welcome Bob.

You write rather well.

"This happens every time one of these floozies starts poontangin' around with those show folk fags. - Sheriff Buford T. Justice"

[Bob BashboshParticipant 160]

TheDigestedRedPill wrote:

Bob I know this is late but welcome brother.

Hahaha Thank you my friend, a double welcome deserves double gratitude! 😀

TheDigestedRedPill wrote:

You know this is what I get for drinking too many beers replying twice to a thread I already replied to. *facepalm*

Hahaha, a man after my own heart! Where would civilisation be without beer my friend. No apologies and never feel ashamed of alcohol fuelled eccentricity, it’s what real men do! hurhur

Here’s one for you brother…

Buford wrote:

Welcome Bob.

You write rather well.

You flatter me Buford! 🙂 Thank you for the warm welcome and it’s a pleasure to be amongst such a illustrious community. I’ve found more intellectual stimulation here than I have from any other social group including, but not limited to, philosophy chats, religious chats, science forums and so on. I’m tired of dogmas, I just want to hang out with pragmatists and free-thinkers.

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