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TaoTheMgtowWanderer 4 years, 7 months ago.
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Let’s play the NAWALT is more common than it is, and theoretically possible, and it is possible to find a woman that is close to ideal match (in short, win the relationship lottery). A discussion came up with a woman at a job I used to work at, where dating and what I was looking for was discussed. I go into “life compatibility”, “sexual attraction”, and it just works. So, she goes, “So you are seeking a business partner”.
My question: Considering the nature of life, why wouldn’t a woman I would have as a partner (if I had one) NOT be a business partner? But, I guess the idea is to “follow your heart” the romance experts say, and not care how incompatible your life would be with a woman. Note: I am saying a theoretical NAWALT is more common than it is her.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
What’s her alternative to “seeking a business partner?” You supposed to be seeking someone for whom you can be a lapdog? That’s just her shaming tactic.
Reality is marriages – and increasingly just casual relationships – are straight up clear business deals, only you as a guy are permanently on the short side of the win/lose aspect, by law. No matter what, 95% of the time you as the penis-bearer are in “violation of the agreement” and have harmed the vagina-burdened half, and as such you must pay the price. When that is all that relationships boil down to in the end, how does one not see the other as a business partner, and a likely untrustworthy one at that.
That being said, everything about any relationship is business. It all revolves around presumed honest exchange of something, be that money, responsibilities, romance, household duties, tasks, etc. Ask your coworker to find one couple anywhere in history that has successfully “lived on love” only and not dealt with the business of the relationship – good freakin luck … it is all about business.
If you are MGTOW when you are young you have no heart.
If you're not MGTOW when you are 20 you have no brain.Marriage has always been a business deal, a contract so to speak. The woman WAS property of the man which he could do with as he pleases, however with all the changes and nitpicking women have done to marriage and divorce laws, basically once the state got involved marriage was doomed for men, its now become a fraud a giant fraud.
Then women started throwing the false pretense of love around just to fool men into a miserable life of servitude. Its all one big lie, any lawyer or businessman will tell you that marriage is a faulty business deal and a fraudulent contract. Marry women for love and happiness lol yeah rite!!, biggest sham ever sold to men.
"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"
Marriage has always been a business deal, a contract so to speak.
Agreed. In days of Charles Dickens and Jane Austen, that was a given. Perhaps nobody was any more happily married than now, but the system worked better than what we have now. That is, if we even have a system.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Follow my heart? Women killed it. LOL
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
I won’t say that marriage is ONLY a business relationship, but I believe if a man and woman don’t factor in compatibility, desired goals, and how resources are spent and agreed to, that is a recipe for disaster. Of course, it is very likely a woman would have a delusional thought is “love is all you need” and the belief that the man is going to just do what she wants out of “love”.
A reason why I am probably not married is I have a probably delusional belief that the woman I am marrying I have synergy with and we are able to do what we each need, and there isn’t a need for give and take, but to be able to find a better way that would benefit me and her. I wouldn’t mind her being involved in my life a lot, if what I am doing intrinsically interests her and not as some sort of favor that would be I have to pay back, in ways of doing things I can’t stand. But, I see the path of resentment starts with give and take, and believing you accumulate points for something you can spend.
But hey, who needs life compatibility when all you have is lust and a dire need to not be alone?
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
I won’t say that marriage is ONLY a business relationship
What aspect of marriage is not business to you?
If you are MGTOW when you are young you have no heart.
If you're not MGTOW when you are 20 you have no brain.As soon as you realize that the only difference between a wife and a girlfriend are financial, you realize marriage is nothing but a business contract. You can live with either of them, have sex with them, and make babies with them. There are literally two differences between a wife and a girlfriend here in the United States.
1. You can add a wife to your health insurance, and not a girlfriend.
2. If you divorce a wife you get financially raped in court, if you dump a girlfriend you owe her nothing.
What it boils down to for me is the potential loss from a divorce is simply not worth whatever money we’d save on insurance. Do I want to risk half of my assets to at best save a couple thousand a year on insurance?
If love truly was a factor…wouldn’t someone madly in love with you simply just want to be with you and not care about forcing you into a bad business deal? If I was in love with a woman and proposed to her, and she said no, but I’ll live with you, have sex with you, and have kids and raise them with you…am I going to say no thanks? F~~~ no. If I was in love with her assets and she wouldn’t marry me, then I’d realize I wasn’t getting an easy meal ticket and try to go find another host to leech off. I don’t care if women don’t want to believe this, its the truth with how modern society and marriage/divorce laws are.
2. If you divorce a wife you get financially raped in court, if you dump a girlfriend you owe her nothing.
Careful with that. Depending on the state you live in, if she lives with you for a time you are defacto “common-law” married and she can sue for things like palimony and maybe more. I’m not a lawyer, but I play one on tv.
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I won’t say that marriage is ONLY a business relationship
What aspect of marriage is not business to you?
I don’t consider socializing and doing things for fun a business relationship. There are some aspects for enjoyment, if you can pull that off. There are some things in life you don’t measure by profit and losses. It is important that a lot be done that way, but not all be.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
I don’t consider socializing and doing things for fun a business relationship. There are some aspects for enjoyment, if you can pull that off. There are some things in life you don’t measure by profit and losses. It is important that a lot be done that way, but not all be.
Yeah but you can just socialize and do fun things with a girlfriend, you don’t need a wife for that. If you hang out at the beach with your girlfriend one weekend, get married during the week, then hang out on the beach with your wife the following weekend, you aren’t magically going to have more fun hanging out with the same woman, are you?
Again…its boils to to marriage being a business deal. If you were at the beach with your girlfriend and you caught her giving some random guy a blow job, you could leave her ass and never talk to her again. If you caught your wife doing that, you’d have to pay a lawyer and fork over some of your assets to her to get a divorce. Why get the marriage? No upside…only downside.
With divorce laws, you have to think of relationships as business partnerships. When one part of the partnership wants to break off and start a separate business, there’s a lot of money at stake.
Best advice my dad gave me, "Don't get married. Don't have kids."
I don’t consider socializing and doing things for fun a business relationship. There are some aspects for enjoyment, if you can pull that off. There are some things in life you don’t measure by profit and losses. It is important that a lot be done that way, but not all be.
Yeah but you can just socialize and do fun things with a girlfriend, you don’t need a wife for that. If you hang out at the beach with your girlfriend one weekend, get married during the week, then hang out on the beach with your wife the following weekend, you aren’t magically going to have more fun hanging out with the same woman, are you? Again…its boils to to marriage being a business deal. If you were at the beach with your girlfriend and you caught her giving some random guy a blow job, you could leave her ass and never talk to her again. If you caught your wife doing that, you’d have to pay a lawyer and fork over some of your assets to her to get a divorce. Why get the marriage? No upside…only downside.
Ok, let me clarify in that, yes, you want to view marriage, in the context of a business relationship, but I don’t believe every single part of the marriage needs to be in a business relationship. One doesn’t need a wife for the the non-business relationship part, but I don’t see why not also having that.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Its not bad having a business partner if you have a GOOD partner. I don’t know what your financial situation is, but for me, I’m 31, debt free, currently have about 100k worth of assets(cash, real estate equity, stocks), a half a pension from previous employment, working on a second pension at my current job, and make a six figure salary.
Most women I meet make less than half of what I make, come with debt instead of assets, and have nothing in retirement accounts or vested pension service. Why would I want to form a business partnership in a situation like that? It would be like I own a business worth a million dollars, and a partner wants to buy in with me, only them buying in consists of me cutting them a check for 500,000 and a portion of future earnings. Why not just hire them as an employee in that situation…ya know…just date them. They can still do everything for you that they could do as a business partner…you just don’t get crushed with a s~~~ty financial deal and can cut them loose any time.
Let’s play the NAWALT is more common than it is, and theoretically possible, and it is possible to find a woman that is close to ideal match (in short, win the relationship lottery). A discussion came up with a woman at a job I used to work at, where dating and what I was looking for was discussed. I go into “life compatibility”, “sexual attraction”, and it just works. So, she goes, “So you are seeking a business partner”.
How does she conclude a “business partner” from “life compatibility” and “sexual attraction”? I don’t see the nexus.
I totally agree with Beer’s posts. When you compare a girlfriend to a wife, the distinct difference between the two is that a wife comes with a legally binding financial contract, which – to me – is a business partnership.
Ok, let me clarify in that, yes, you want to view marriage, in the context of a business relationship, but I don’t believe every single part of the marriage needs to be in a business relationship.
I agree – not every aspect of a marriage is a business partnership. Doing fun stuff together and just enjoying life is not a business relationship. However, whether parties understand it or not, the state imposes a business relationship on them when they sign the marriage certificate.
Careful with that. Depending on the state you live in, if she lives with you for a time you are defacto “common-law” married and she can sue for things like palimony and maybe more. I’m not a lawyer, but I play one on tv.
Very true. It all depends on where you live. I’m in Canada and my province does not divide property in common law relationships (there’s only a division if both parties legally own it). British Columbia sees no difference between marriage and common law. Quebec does not recognize common law relationships.
Essentially, the rules are all over the place depending on where you live. One thing I believe is certain: more and more provinces/states will become like British Columbia and make common law the same as marriage. Why? More and more people are choosing to not marry, but live together, and this doesn’t bode well for females, if they don’t actually own anything in the relationship.
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I too live in British Columbia. North Vancouver to be exact. You are absolutely right. What has happened? Well men have been dropping out of marriage precisely because of the laws governing division of family assets. So they made Common Law relationships (2 years living together) equivalent to marriage and thereby capturing the relationships which previously escaped the laws.
Men then switched to pulling out of relationships before the 2 years was up in order to escape the Common Law classification.
Now in British Columbia they have reduced the requirement for living together from 2 years to now down to 6 months. The only way a guy can get out from under the new Family Relations Act is to be able to prove that you have been living (residing) at an entirely different address. You need your mail being delivered to your home and has to be different from your girlfriends.
Any children of any relationship, even a one night stand, are still protected. They can not give up their rights to claim support from both parents.
Things have gotten real bad. As an example, if you were lucky enough to have a rich family who placed all their wealth into a Family Trust, and named you and your fellow siblings as beneficiaries, your Common Law wife could not only claim your portion of the Family Trust, but also the portion of a family trust gifted to your fellow siblings.
Yes, BC has gone far too left on this issue. I don’t live in BC, but I did about five years ago. One thing that blows my mind about the new Family Law Act: when the legislation became law it was retroactive for two years! Can they show any further blatant disregard for men? I think not.
Let’s play the NAWALT is more common than it is, and theoretically possible, and it is possible to find a woman that is close to ideal match (in short, win the relationship lottery). A discussion came up with a woman at a job I used to work at, where dating and what I was looking for was discussed. I go into “life compatibility”, “sexual attraction”, and it just works. So, she goes, “So you are seeking a business partner”.
How does she conclude a “business partner” from “life compatibility” and “sexual attraction”? I don’t see the nexus. I totally agree with Beer’s posts. When you compare a girlfriend to a wife, the distinct difference between the two is that a wife comes with a legally binding financial contract, which – to me – is a business partnership.
With myself, I ended up discussion that, whatever I do with a woman makes me better than where I am, and do more than I can normally do, and there is compatibility. And I mentioned life compatibility. She was someone I worked with, so I had to be careful of any discussion of sexual attraction (I assumed it is applied) due to prior problems out of another job. So, based on discussing life compatibility and doing more than I can do alone, she made it out to be “a business partner”.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
anyone know if the laws for this kind of thing have changed in Ontario? It would be nice to know how long i have before i’m at risk.
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