She loves you

[OhnoParticipant 668]

umm guys…. there is this big threat with the topic “What are the worst lies a woman ever told you?”

and many of you say the worst lie she ever told you was : ” I love you”

But theres something i want to point out now, but i decided to let you watch this instead. start watching at 6min 10sec to 7min 15sec ( if you dont know the video yet… its a very good watch but watch the whole thing later to not get distracted to what im saying. )

So basically she maybe did love you in her mind, but not the same way you thought she meant it. She doesnt know what love feels from a mans side, because she isnt a man.

If she says ” i love you” , she might just feel that you are doing something for her that she appreciates. such as..being a good listener, provider, make her feel comfortable in company of the friendzone etc. etc. just not the way how we as men feel love. (directly)

so the worst of all lies, might not even be a lie to be honest.

your thoughts?

[RoyDalParticipant]

“The baby is yours.”

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[foolsgoldParticipant 5646]

” I’ve only had one sexual partner before you”. I was in college at the time and called her out. I told her that I knew she had at least six and none of these guys that told me have ever lied to me and have no reason to. She had no answer for me and just stared at me. I kicked her out of my dorm and told her to never come back. I haven’t spoke to her since. That was almost 30 years ago. NEVER believe a girl when she tells you how many partners she has had. Or just multiply her number she tells you by 3.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

foolsgold wrote:

” I’ve only had one sexual partner before you”. I was in college at the time and called her out. I told her that I knew she had at least six and none of these guys that told me have ever lied to me and have no reason to. She had no answer for me and just stared at me. I kicked her out of my dorm and told her to never come back. I haven’t spoke to her since. That was almost 30 years ago. NEVER believe a girl when she tells you how many partners she has had. Or just multiply her number she tells you by 3.

Dont worry, i have no trust whatsoever a woman tells me, but its not the point im making here. They are manipulative liars no doubt…but not the point. Their biological concept of love is different from ours, so in a lot of cases she might actually have said the truth from her perspective.

[foolsgoldParticipant 5646]

Totally agree, German. I believe some of them don’t even realize they are lying. Or maybe tell you a half-truth and think it still doesn’t count as a lie. Men see it as a flat-out lie. Ladies just don’t see it that way. I know some woman that believe just sucking a dude off without intercourse does not count as a sexual partner or doesn’t count as sex. Even if they swallow or not. I don’t believe a thing a women says and never will. Good point, though.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@germantruther I don’t think a woman is “lying” when she says “I love you”.

What she means is “i FEEL like I love you……. right NOW”.

When a woman talks about her “feelings”, in your mind, append it with: “right now”.

• “I could totally imagine us married and living together…… right now”.
• “I love you….. right now”.
• “I never felt this way before …… right now”.
• “I’ve never done this before …… right now”.

It’s easy to believe she’s being genuine. Even SHE believes it.
But you don’t find out until tomorrow that she wasn’t – and neither will she.

Tomorrow, she changes her mind. That’s why it’s baffling to men that women can say it and mean it, and then you wake up and the last 3 years didn’t matter. Not even tomorrow matters to her, because she lives in the present. She says “I love you” and tomorrow she’s f~~~ing your best friend or some guy at work who “doesn’t count”. Even when she says “Oh that one night stand didn’t count”… she means it doesn’t count “right now”.

I don’t believe she is lying when she says ” i love you”.
Women are just temporary pleasures.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Keymaster wrote:

@germantruther I don’t think a woman is “lying” when she says “I love you”.
What she means is “i FEEL like I love you……. right NOW”.
When a woman talks about her “feelings”, in your mind, append it with: “right now”.
• “I could totally imagine us married and living together…… right now”.• “I love you….. right now”.• “I never felt this way before …… right now”.• “I’ve never done this before …… right now”.
It’s easy to believe she’s being genuine. Even SHE believes it.But you don’t find out until tomorrow that she wasn’t – and neither will she.
Tomorrow, she changes her mind. That’s why it’s baffling to men that women can say it and mean it, and then you wake up and the last 3 years didn’t matter. Not even tomorrow matters to her, because she lives in the present. She says “I love you” and tomorrow she’s f~~~ing your best friend or some guy at work who “doesn’t count”. Even when she says “Oh that one night stand didn’t count”… she means it doesn’t count “right now”.
I don’t believe she is lying when she says ” i love you”.Women are just temporary pleasures.

Holy S~~~ Keymaster;

I will award you an honorary doctorate!!! I have been struggling trying to find something I did wrong, something I missed – even knowing what I know about women. I know you can’t understand crazy, but it still did not sit well with me this contrary nature of love for women.

The above basically sums up my relationship and marriage with the ex- almost a decade of “your the best thing that ever happened too me.” “This type of love only happens once”. ” I love you so much” etc, etc until she suddenly decided that “The is not enough passion in this relationship”, “You treat me too well.”, “You so nice a guy, you make me feel bad about myself”, “I need someone I can disagree more with”. This was after I discovered her affairs.

To make a lose analogy, a women’s love, loyalty and affections are like Schrödinger’s cat experiment. The cat starts off alive, but until the box is opened (her declaration of nullify or your discovery of the contrary) both states exist in her mind – she loves you but she doesn’t. Eventually someone peeks in the box, the two possible realities combined – and the cat is dead.

Thank you.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[OhnoParticipant 668]

they surely have it a lot easier to deny facts then men and make up a lie that will make them look good.
For my personal experience i never deny facts… i might keep quiet or leave the room but i wont lie about facts. Would just make me mad if i lied about facts just to look better.

But i think its totally fine and smart to lie about feelings….when i feel s~~~ty i will just say “i feel good” for example.. so i dont get asked why i feel s~~~ty, because i dont want to say the truth of how i feel, because that topic is just a sucker….talking about my feelings makes me feel bad..but women like to talk about feelings dont they?

maybe they can be upright when its about feelings…since they are the opposite of us. Got to get abstract here because they expect love to be different then we do.

So maybe if she asks you if you love her…. you should respond in a way if she does to love in order to answer the question.

like does she do something for you…is she Providing something for you ( fun, ressources, safety ) in terms that she thinks…
maybe if she asks you if you love her and you say “yes” she doesnt believe it because she doesnt do anything for you as of what she Love is about.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Keymaster wrote:

“right now”.
• “I could totally imagine us married and living together…… right now”.• “I love you….. right now”.• “I never felt this way before …… right now”.• “I’ve never done this before …… right now”.

haha 😉

I fell in love twice in my life…both times it took me a about a year to somewhat get over it and move on….. so the total opposite of right now. good point i like that.

[Swen AugustParticipant 373]

I shacked up with a multiple personality disorder, I never knew who I was going to wake up next to. I think it was just cover for her constantly contradicting herself. I will always remember the day she told me “I’m a lesbian now and you are not to touch me ever again” The next day she couldn’t get her clothes off fast enough.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Sure she loves you………

Your money
Your resources
Your house
Your Porsche
You doing things for her
You paying for her kids
Her not putting out
Her cheating on you
Her divorce lawyer
Paying for her shopping

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Keymaster wrote:

@germantruther I don’t think a woman is “lying” when she says “I love you”.

she really isnt huh…unless its for a whole lot of money or other important reasons… i really think she doesnt lie about that one if you consider that LOVE has a different meaning to her then to you.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

bigboy83 wrote:

Sure she loves you………
Your moneyYour resourcesYour houseYour PorscheYou doing things for herYou paying for her kidsHer not putting outHer cheating on youHer divorce lawyerPaying for her shopping

if thats love to her…. she might just didnt lie when she said “i love you”

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Swen August wrote:

I shacked up with a multiple personality disorder, I never knew who I was going to wake up next to. I think it was just cover for her constantly contradicting herself. I will always remember the day she told me “I’m a lesbian now and you are not to touch me ever again” The next day she couldn’t get her clothes off fast enough.

im not sure if thats a good or bad thing…im only sure she didnt have a multiple personality disorder. sounds like she thinks of you as a rock and wants to see how you will deal with it. She is holding a lot of you in order to put up with this BS of her and stick around, i would say.

[HuevonParticipant 68]

Ex girlfriends of mine still loved me years after I had dumped them. It was funny when I visited one of them, I held her in my arms, and I realized that all women around us were staring at me. When I looked back at her, she had these big shiny eyes looking at me like a kid in a candy store. Women get interested in a man, when another woman loves him.
So what I wanted to say: I totally agree that women do fall in love in a different way. But from my experience it can be for a longer time as well. But I believe that a woman can not be as caring as a man. Especially when she becomes a mother, she stops loving her husband and starts giving all her love to the kid. Whatever will happen: The kid comes first. That’s an unconditional love her husband will never get.
Also even though a woman might be in love with you: she will constantly put you through s~~~ tests. You let her mess with you? Love is over in just a second.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Huevon wrote:

Ex girlfriends of mine still loved me years after I had dumped them. It was funny when I visited one of them, , I held her in my arms, and I realized that all women around us were staring at me.

thats very interesting to my topic and the rest you wrote is off-topic to be honest.

Ex girlfriends of mine still loved me years after I had dumped them. – why? your looks? your character? your c~~~? anything about you? or did you give her a good time? what did you provide to her in a way she thinks of love in a female state of mind? was she sleeping at your home/hotel? did you have long conversations where she was the center? did you and her party with you and your cool clique that she doesnt have? etcetc. what did she get out of this relationship to you in a materialistic sence?
What did she benefit from in a way of what women views of what love is about? ( watch video )

Could you be in LOVE after many years after getting dumped and not seing the woman one time ?

“I held her in my arms, and I realized that all women around us were staring at me. ” – she gets attention…and you get attention because all women around you know that you provided her with something she benefits from, so they want that too..

[KingOfTheSeaParticipant 1270]

RoyDal wrote:

“The baby is yours.”

Conversely: “You’re the father.”

[LupusParticipant 214]

I do not think love exists. Not in the romantic fashion at any rate.

At some level the females desire utility and security so they can prepare for the nesting.
So when the right mate comes around that meets their criteria they may or may not feel what they describe as love, but I would just say it is a recognition of a suitable mate, masked by hormones and chemicals in the brain as “love” so they will desire that individual.

At some level the males desire a chance to procreate.
So when the right mate comes around that meets the criteria of health, youth and fertility, the chemicals and hormones are released and the male falls in “love”, so he will pursue that invididual.

We all know the basics of it, but really think about it, recognize how much the chemicals in your body control your actions.
We have to look at this more clinically, lose the romantic bs around it, so we can recognize it and hopefully control it to some degree.

If any relationship is desired, it should be one based on pure logic, what can either bring to the table for the other. Negotiate and sign a contract. Stipulate everything. Especially the consequences if either side breaks the contract.
Show it all up front, everyone knows what he or she gets.

It is not for me, but who knows, someone might want to attempt it.

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