Seems like it was meant to be – an introduction

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

So here I am at MGTOW.com, the only place that seems to make sense of the f~~~ed up world we live in. The stories and insights of other members resonate with me in many ways.

Many of you have had it far worse than I could ever imagine. The lies, theft and betrayals that force a man to re-examine everything he was brought up to beleive in. His place in the world his value as a human being.

I used to think that the only logical reason for existence was to pro-create the species. Everything else seems ultimately transient, life is short, you can’t take material things with you but you live on through your children right?

Unfortunately, or fortunately some would say, the goal of fatherhood was denied me, except for a very breif time, but more on that later.

Born in the mid sixties I was wrenched from my maternal mother at 13 months old and given away for adoption. My adoptive parents had already gone through a long eligibilty process with the local council to be allowed to adopt my older sister. They told me it took months of interviews and tests before they were finally alolowed to take her home. Then some months later there was a knock at the door and a council official stood there with a baby and asked if they would like to adopt another child as well? That child was me. I was literally taken from one mother and dropped off at the doorstep to another. An emergency intervention I guess. My mum told me I was dressed in filthy clothes so I figure I must have come from the wrong side of the tracks.

Although my adoptive parents did the best they could for me (and I’m grateful for that), I never quite felt I “fitted in”.

This feeling of being an outsider has been with me ever since. Although tall, blond haired and blue eyed, I never felt confident with women. I think my lack of confidence stemed from the idea that “If your own (natural),mother didn’t value you, then why would anyone else?”

Eventually at 19 I finally got it together with my first girlfriend. It’s your first love you remember right? Well my first love was a psychotic narcissistic, abusive, controlling, cheating head f~~~ing Uber Feminist -Spare Rib- reading bitch.

It took me 14 years to be free of her. Everytime I tried to leave and would set myself up with another woman, she would come back into my life to f~~~ it up and prove she “owned” me. Having f~~~ed up other relationship I got into, she would then dissapear again with Chad and leave me devastated once more. What gave her the power to do this? She knew how to push my buttons. Anyone who’s been involved with a narcissist will know what I mean.

Eventually I got free, and the crazy thing is after all the abuse, lies, cheating, theft, bad mouthing me to all, f~~~ing my friends behind my back, trying to pimp me out to her girlfriends, (honestly you wouldn’t believe it but it’s true),and the ultimate crime – the do it yourself home abotion of the only child I have ever fathered, (that f~~~ed me up big style for years), You know the final thing that made me realise that this woman was poison to my life? She accidently f~~~ed the mothboard of my computer with a BIOS flash virus and tried to make out it was my fault. For some reason that did it for me and I was outta’ her life forever.

I then became MGTOW in my dealings with women. Pump and Dump, Oil Change dating etc. I was never going to let a woman rule me again. My goal was to earn money (just got my first graduate job), and buy my own house then chill with the guys. smoke hash, play guitar and bang chicks with no commitment.

Then, as often happens in life, out of the blue I met my Unicorn, at work in a large corporate office. I never expected such a good looking woman could have no baggage, no kids, no crazyness. I married her less than a year later and was happy. She wanted kids and I wanted to make her happy but it just didn’t happen. Kind of ironic that the Ex Bitch got pregnant by me (and killed it), but my wife and I couldn’t.

About four years in the usual things started to happen, I don’t want to go into details but you know how it goes, (not saying I was blameless-far from it). It looked like we were going to split. I was ready for it and due to my past experiences with women I can be an Ice Cold Unfeeling Motherf~~~er when I want to be. Then it happened. The “Event” She got a headache that just got worse and worse. More and more pills to ease the pain but it wouldn’t go. I started to get worried, but, as I had started to drink on a regular basis I put it down to she must just get worse hangovers than me. I was wrong very wrong, in that diagnosis.

2006 One day she was so in pain she was delierious and passed out. I rushed her to hospital, they f~~~ed up (anyone from the UK who’s been to A&E will know the score). Finally they realised the problem. She’s got a brain tumor, it’s expanding and crushing her brain. Emergency Op’ 13 hours, half way through the surgeon comes out and tells me to prepare for the worst, She aint’ gonna make it.

I f~~~ing sobbed and sobbed like a baby. Just weeks earlier I had been planning my escape determined not to be f~~~ed over by a woman again and now the most important thing in the world to me was that she should live. I prayed and prayed constantly that whole 13 hours begging God to spare her, (I’m not a person who bothers God on a regular basis). Thing is, against all the odds and to the visible amazment of all the doctors, she pulled through. She survived, She was not a “Vegtable” as they said she would be. Intensive care 1 month, step down ward 2 months, contacted MRSA from the filthy hospital, fought it off. They were misstreating her on the ward (neglect), so I busted her outta’ there. They didn’t miss her for seven hours. I got her home and I cared for her till she was well.

We got life back on track and did the best we could for another 8 years, then the seccond Event occurred and this time there was no reprive. She died at home in my arms. If I could have ended her suffering painlessly I would have. A local nurse thought I had done a “Mercy Killing” on her as I hadn’t returned the morphine they gave me to administer for pain relief. She called the cops and I was arrested for Murder. Spent a night in the cells with crazy drunk/drugged people and got interrogated all night. They searched my house and found the drugs I had held back. I think the cops knew that I hadn’t killed her with these drugs (they were unopened), but I was intending to use them on myself rather than live without her. I knew I would never find another woman like this and my life was over.

My experience of seeing her fight this disease and the couage she showed means that I can never hate all women. My attraction to MGTOW comes from the first bitch that f~~~ed up my life, and more recently the entitled attitude of women I attempted to get to know on dating sites (POF).

It seems to me that my whole life has been influenced for better or worse, right from the get go, by women. I have lost my eagerness to try and please them. I’m not going to find another Unicorn so I must swallow the Red Pill. As many have mentioned, It’s a bitter pill to swallow, but once you realise the games rigged, you don’t want to play anymore. F~~~ them. Why should they profit from my hard work and struggles? What do they offer me now?

I am a spirtual person and I beleive my wife may have influenced me in finding MGTOW. She doesn’t want some skanky gold digging bitch getting her claws into me before I join her in the next life.

Everything happen’s for a reason, and for some reason I find myself here.

Greg

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[Anonymous 24]

Welcome Greg, I just gave you your first +1 and used a quote from your profile about voting in another thread as I read it yesterday…

Also, brutal story, I hope unloading it here helps.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Thanks Joe,

The voting quote is what I truely beleive. It’s a rigged game. I tell you why. The party in opposition always criticises the governing party’s policies. Then, when the election comes and the parties change places, the new government DOESN’T CHANGE A SINGLE POLICE OF THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT. They are not opposing teams, they are two sides of the same team. It’s a fix to give the illusion of democcracy when in fact there is no democcracy. Same people always at the top. Always.

Nothing changes – ever

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[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Greg Honda wrote:

My experience of seeing her fight this disease and the couage she showed means that I can never hate all women.

Welcome Greg.
You don’t have to hate any woman. If you have lurked then you know that is discouraged. You just hurt yourself and “going your own way” means just that. Hating makes us focus on the wrong things. You come to terms how you want to.
Thanks for the heartfelt introduction.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Hi Frostbyte,

Yes agreed, bad choice of words. I don’t hate them, I just don’t trust them.
Greg

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[Anonymous 24]

Greg Honda wrote:

Thanks Joe,

The voting quote is what I truely beleive. It’s a rigged game. I tell you why. The party in opposition always criticises the governing party’s policies. Then, when the election comes and the parties change places, the new government DOESN’T CHANGE A SINGLE POLICE OF THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT. They are not opposing teams, they are two sides of the same team. It’s a fix to give the illusion of democcracy when in fact there is no democcracy. Same people always at the top. Always.

Nothing changes – ever

You just summed up Obama. Nobel Peace Prize toting president who was voted in based in large part due to his stance against Bush era nonsense. What has he done in the last 8 years? Doubled down on all Bush era nonsense and pushed us right up nose to nose with Russia. Presidents are puppets, everyone knows it but they are all to busy being led by MSN to each-other’s throats. Classic divide and conquer by whoever is really running the show…

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

The crazy thing is, If we can see it, why can’t the general population? Are they all dopped up on TV or something? That’s one of the reasons I keep comming back to this site. Free Thinkers, Men who’s eyes have been opened. Theres a lot of wisdom here. I’m glad to be a part of it in my own small way.
Greg

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[Anonymous 24]

Greg Honda wrote:

The crazy thing is, If we can see it, why can’t the general population? Are they all dopped up on TV or something? That’s one of the reasons I keep comming back to this site. Free Thinkers, Men who’s eyes have been opened. Theres a lot of wisdom here. I’m glad to be a part of it in my own small way.
Greg

There are plenty here, and in the world in general not here, who believe even the vote counts are rigged. Certainly at this point all MSM is just a tool of the Fascist State. Also, maybe, there are still way too many old dumbs~~~s alive that watch T.V. for news and they may need to die off before there is even a chance for change. The game of divide and conquer is being played out brilliantly since Obama has been in office. The masses hate the other side so much they continue to vote to block even though their candidate is clearly not going to be making a radical departure from the status quo. Just, as you said, two sides of the same coin. If it does not happen before they gain full control of the internet, it is game over.

[Anonymous 1]

Hello Greg and welcome to MGTOW, your story is sad, but at the same time you show a great heart and the ability to move on no matter what, I appreciate that.

Somehow I felt the same when I wrote my introduction and unloaded some harsh things of my life.

Enjoy the forums and the freedom.

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

Greg Honda wrote:

She knew how to push my buttons. Anyone who’s been involved with a narcissist will know what I mean.

Welcome, it seems that people that were in any way neglected by their biological parents later become front line for all sorts of BPD, narcissists and psycho females out there. Natural barrier to what is acceptable behaviour is collapsed and then psychos can roam.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Anonymous wrote:

, there are still way too many old dumbs~~~s alive that watch T.V. for news and they may need to die off before there is even a chance for change

I think hyper-emotional easily manipulated female vote is the real nemesis. The same dullards that let immigrants in to Germany and now have to face the real danger of losing the existing patriarchy to an Islamic one. They will be voting just long enough to lose their voting rights to Islam.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, Greg
+1 for you.
Know that you are not alone and that was a superb intro. A rollercoaster life to be sure. I look forward to your posts.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

@joe,

I’ve been reading up and you tubing conspiracy therory for years now. The biggest eye opener for me was Zeitgeist the Movie. The 9-11 section just blew my mind. Those f~~~ers planned it all and they sacrificed the people in those builings to make an excuse to start a never ending “War against Terror”. I used to worry about the future, but what’s the point? Even if we knew all the dirty facts and evil intentions what could we do to stop it? As already mentioned, voting is a waste of time. One of my favorite commedians is Bill Hicks, he saw through this BS in the 90’s and nothing has changed. Nowadays I just concentrate on trying to make my life as comfortable as possible and f~~~ everyone else. I try to give out a little wisdom here and there if I can but you gotta’ be careful of what you say. Another attraction to MGTOW I have is it’s generally Anti Femminist stance. The femminists are just part of the movement towards a new worl order via cultural marxism. Those dumb f~~~ers can’t see that they are turkeys voting for Christmas!

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[Anonymous 24]

FrostByte wrote:

Joe Bauers wrote:

, there are still way too many old dumbs~~~s alive that watch T.V. for news and they may need to die off before there is even a chance for change

I think hyper-emotional easily manipulated female vote is the real nemesis. The same dullards that let immigrants in to Germany and now have to face the real danger of losing the existing patriarchy to an Islamic one. They will be voting just long enough to lose their voting rights to Islam.

Yea, forgot to mention the Female pandering MSN has been pushing HARD in the U.S. all to prep the masses for the “machine’s” choice that was made long ago.

As far as E.U. yea, seems to be the plan to ruin all national identity in every nation they can over there. It is not the Refugee’s fault. Their countries were f~~~ed by the same people who want this all to happen in my eyes.

[Anonymous 24]

Yep, I went down a lot of rabbit holes years ago. The first Zeitgeist was awesome, it was a big deal for me as well.

And ditto on Hicks. If you have been lurking here for awhile, you have seen me post his stuff now and then…

And yes, third wave Feminism is a tool of the State.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Anonymous wrote:

As far as E.U. yea, seems to be the plan to ruin all national identity in every nation they can over there. It is not the Refugee’s fault. Their countries were f~~~ed by the same people who want this all to happen in my eyes.

I do see your point. Tear it all down and then Capt-save-the world will be there rebuild the NWO.
I hate to think it’s that big, but I could be wrong.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

@freeman,

Thanks for the comment. You are definately onto something.

She could see I was vulnerable and needed love. She f~~~ing used me as a toy to amuse herself. I think a lot of adopted children are a bit damaged. I’m no exception.

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[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Greg Honda wrote:

Well my first love was a psychotic narcissistic, abusive, controlling, cheating head f~~~ing Uber Feminist -Spare Rib- reading bitch.

So in other words “woman”.

Welcome aboard brother.

[JimBoLeaParticipant 1891]

WELCOME TO THE FOLD.

LILITH IS THE HEAD SUCCUBUS AND SHE LIVES ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

@ Math,M52,Pete,and all others

Thanks for the welcome, Been waiting to contribute for some time. Been reading all your posts on a daily basis. It’s refreshing to have a place we can speak. The more I read of MGTOW the more I feel at one with my brothers. I no longer see other men as competition for the golden vagina. I see future comrades trying to do what’s right in a corrupt world. We are the fortunate ones, we can see the truth, we can only wait for the blind to catch up with us. It feels good to be aware, it gives confidence. I feel stronger now, I don’t need anyone else’s approval. They only voices that matter are the awakened voices here. That’s it, too much said and a bit drunk now but happy to be accepted.

Greg

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