SANDMAN

[Anonymous 7]

His videos are repetitive and they come off as whining almost.

It feels like his videos push me back to red pill rage.

Trevor Freeman and Truth over everything are the only mgtow you tubers I listen too.

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

While there are mgtow who dislike and deplore him he has his uses. He is soft core, shallow and many times wrong, he is good at a basic level so I would not throw him under the bus just yet. Many men have had their eyes opened towards the MGTOW road.

Zero Tolerance

[AttonParticipant]

The guy is a nut be he gets the word out there.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 42]

Blue Skies wrote:

What do you guys think of Sandman?

I said I was gonna put down the hatchet with Sadman so I have nothing nice to say, KM said it all.

MGTOW 101 has Sadman’s style but with an Aussie accent, I’ll listen 101 until he says I need to “get over it”.

Other than that I don’t have a problem with him, I “got over it”…

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

So, there are a couple angles i have to come from here. One is, sandman seems robotic, and seems like the kind who only cares about profit and marketing. On the other hand, i did watch his video’s when i started my MGTOW journey, and that’s what made me curious enough to check out other MGTOW channels.

So i have to put sandman in the grey area, perhaps he is the McDonalds of MGTOW as suggested. However the mickey d’s burger might be enough to lead new MGTOWs to explore MGTOW a little deeper.

It’s always good to use caution when dealing with personality’s. I just stick with the principles that i know are right for me. I never follow a personality too much, because that can be a dead end road on ones personal road of growth.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

I know Sandman has upset a few people…..he has even criticized MGTOW… but let’s not forget we were ALL wounded by the same blade.

He might think ‘pussy juice’ controls mind…. maybe that’s just his analysis…

I say stupid s~~~ all the time. Doesn’t mean I mean everything I say.

I am pretty sure all of you have done some pretty stupid stuff at some point of your life….stuff that is embarrassing to the core when you look back…. but nobody can change the past can they? I think this might have been one of Sandman’s moments when he shamed MGTOWs.

My favourite is TFM because that guy has a deep scientific and philosophical approach to issues. Minus the sex toys and his misantrophic side…. but we can’t always have what we want.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Whilst I most certainly generally respect sandman as the “door man” or as stated before introducer towards mgtow (and yes, it was in part his videos that got me here, hands up I admit…) by now I no longer consider his videos essential for myself meanwhile having discovered so many other great channels on my own research (ie. T. Popp, Cotery MGTOW, Straight Shooter, Cheeky Bastard, Trevor Freeman Groundwork… to name just a few).

And yes like you said, Free …

Anonymous wrote:

His videos are repetitive and they come off as whining almost.

Just how repetitive they have become has quite recently been nicely pointed out by “Just Pro Male That’s it” in this ironic gem of a response right here:

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[RoyDalParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Maybe you weren’t there for the whole Sandman shaming MGTOW thing,

I was. I ‘unsubscribed’ on the spot and haven’t been back.
Every now and then a well meaning friend sends me a link to him. Deleted without clicking.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

I can’t be too harsh on sandman because he has done his share of helping the movement but let’s just say once you see a lot of his videos and you get the message you kind of move on and there are people like spetsnaz and barbarossa to supplement that but I still go back from time to time.

Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

[BrujahParticipant 579]

I think he’s a fairly good introduction. Kind of the beginner’s guide. I started my journey listening to his content before I found the others.

I personally like Raging Golden Eagle, Turd Flinging Monkey and heartbern.

Trevor Freeman comes of as pretty aloof which kind of puts me off. I very much enjoy the anarchistic nature of MGTOW and he seems anything but.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Sandman isn’t our leader, but he’s the leading indicator where MGTOW is going. If men are watching, their joining.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Executor MaxwellParticipant 591]

This sight was not making the top of the searches yet, it was new at the time but it was Sandman topping the results when Elam snapped and went after MGTOW and it was Sandman’s body of work that helped keep Elam’s ideas down. For that and his prior works I gave Sandman a pass for his later his blunder seeing it as small enough for me to forgive since he didn’t just keep heading down the fools path, and his old and new stuff has helped me free a few guys when I saw an opportunity.

I’m for the guy to carry on, at the same time I wouldn’t expect the older guys to be all that impressed with him nore is there an obligation too.

One of the things that makes MGTOW work so well is that the their is no reliance on a monolithic leader of some sort, he is just one of the bigger voices in a free market of ideas.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

I found MGTOW simply by googling “borderline” and landing on Paul Elams video.

As he mentioned the name MGTOW I didn’t know yet what it meant…

Google got me here and it is love at first sight.

I also ran across Sandman and his “number of views” astonished me. Then I looked at the time when his videos were uploaded… 40 something K views in just a few days… that is a “mass movement”.

But his videos get on my nerves as he needs to work on his presentation style… and his voice. Maybe even use a “pitch shifter audio plugin” in some way…

But there are other presenters out there that have a higher credibility.

Half of what he says about women emitting chemicals is right but not as dramatic as he sells it:

Men do get crazy over some womens’ smell. There are these manginas out there that buy used underwear for an incredible price just to put their nose in it.

And these hormones do actually pass the skin of the penis. I read this like 10 years ago. And that study was also stating why uncircumcised men have a higher rate of faithfulness to their women. The foreskin collects more of their hormones? Maybe? I have to dig that study out.

But it may be the reason why guys with foreskin get STDs easier.

But anything going through a condom or 60 ml getting pumped into a man’s testicles – that is bulls~~~ for time being.

We MGTOWs have to have thoroughly researched and well produced videos up there in order not to become a joke.

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