Sandman Goes Full Retard and Beyond.

[Darth SinParticipant 576]

I Slay Pretty Lies recently made a video that, I think, excellently exposes Sandman’s true goals.

Sandman Co-Opting MGTOW

Really Sandman ? Understanding human nature is pseudo-intellectualism ? MGTOW needs to enter a revolt ? Complex issues are simplified in the most ridiculous reductio ad absurdum possible ?

We just spent the past few months dealing with Reverse Male and his attempt to co-opt MGTOW as part of his AVFM/TradCon goals and now we have Sandman trying to co-opt MGTOW for some form of revolution ?

F~~~ that s~~~. MGTOWs are not interested in a revolt. Do you see Herbivore Men on a revolt ? Nope, they are just minding their own business and living their lives without giving a single arsef~~~ about what society expects of them.

Truly, Sandscam has gone full retard.

Here are some choice bits from the comments :-

ISlay, what you talked about at the end is what L Ron Hubbard did by recording endless lectures and getting his followers to listen to hours of his voice daily. it is personality imprinting, cults are notorious for this method. it makes it harder to criticize the personality once it has been imprinted on the identity of the one listening to him. they then become open minded to whatever the personality says. it’s how you take an atheist and turn him slowly to an ot scientologist (meaning get him to believe he is an alien in a human body who has lived multiple lives, some congruently or some s~~~ like that) it’s why sandman releases a video a day, it’s why hubbard had thousands of tapes recorded, it’s why stef molyneux does the same thing. I wouldn’t be surprised is sandman comes out with a freedomain type website with varying levels of access.

Hohoholy s~~~, is this motherf~~~er actually proposing dehumanizing women as a legitimate strategy to a bloodless social revolution? This is sounding deadup like feminist propaganda about men. I’m noticing a disturbing trend in MGTOW where some retarded asshole will say, “Women aren’t people,” or, “Women are basically insects,” or something like that. And I’m sitting here like, what in the almighty blueberry f~~~ are you talking about and where did you get this idea from? Yeah, a big part of MGTOW is removing women from their pedestal and realizing they aren’t special, but we’re not f~~~ing feminists. We’re not here to dehumanize women, we’re here to understand them, as well as ourselves. And then Mr. I-Have-Almost-The-Largest-Subscriber-Base-In-MGTOW-And-I’m-The-First-YT-Channel-To-Come-Up-In-A-Google-Search-For-MGTOW is coming along talking about f~~~ing revolution and actively dehumanizing and discriminating against women like that isn’t on some Nazi Deutsch propaganda s~~~. I know it’s been a while since I’ve watched a Sandman video, but goddamn, man, I didn’t know he’d gone completely into outer f~~~ing space.

[Anonymous 1]

I don’t watch Sandman anymore. He was already talking a lot of trash, in my opinion, waaaay before the Mgtow monks s~~~storm. Even the video that someone posted here, the “Male shaming” or whatever, that seemed more or less conciliatory, reeked to feminist (or the very least, something a SIMP would say) propaganda to me.

Not interested on his ideas anymore.

But thanks for the warning.

Cheers.

 

[Anonymous 1]

Like women, just ignore Sandman. I see him like a carnival barker.

I was going to make a huge post about this, but you made the point in 2 sentences.

Thanks. 🙂

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I think he will eventually die off. A lot of people I know no longer watch his videos. I do on a rare occasion however it’s rarely worth it.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Honestly, when I really got into mgtow, sandman was one of the first mgtow content creator I watched.
Quickly got ditched in favor of spetsnatz, bar bar and stardusk.

He kinda sounds like he’s just a blowjob away from relapsing into full blue pill, honestly.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

So the guy has “First Contact” value. Then once gents discover the other video authors as well as this site, then things are taken to a higher plane. Freedom of speech will always have those abusing it. The vest thing one xan do for the MGTOW philosophy is to live it well and not preach but SHOW OTHER MEN A LIFE WELL LIVED.

Now, that’s a very core point, batcave. And that is why whenever I do approach say ordinary people in real life and slightly confront them with our awareness stance in here, I do proceed with caution, because you never know how they ultimately would take it. So I much rather drop a little hint here and there without even using the label, then watch how they react first before continuing to pass on any further clues. If they don’t seem interested then fine let them continue their lives in whichever way they see fit. Live and let live is a matter of confidence, come to think of it. Hence if they are showing some interest maybe drop the label and with the hint: “Google it! Research it as thoroughly as you can and then, then make up you mind about whether it may or may not be your cup of tea. Now, hands up I do admit, that from time to time (having been in here for almost half a year by now) I still do tend to lose myself and go a bit over the edge, but then I always manage to calm down and take a step back again and each time when that happens I realize it and it happens faster and frankly the more I watch Sandman’s videos, admitting that I do (but more like beside other great content producers, too and there are plenty out there…) the less I agree with his views. He clearly is the sort of entry gate for newcomers, who should albeit be smart enough to think for themselves, no more no less. Whether that’s a good thing or not that he has established as the first contact guy to MGTOW..? Well, to be honest I don’t know about that anymore…

My 2 cents

 

Ned T.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I would have discover later on if I didn’t watch Sandman’s videos because I was already watching Girlwriteswhat videos. Plus I still read articles on AFVM so it would have matter of it that’s about it.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

The guy doing this video is ignorant. He keeps going on about how “revolution is violent and bloody”. Apparently he has never heard of Gandhi and nonviolent civil disobedience. He goes on about how “the problem is complex” yet offers no answers himself, either. There is an answer to the questions. No one single man has all the pieces of the puzzle, but Sandman is way further down the rabbit hole than this guy. The video was a waste of time. If you want to discredit Sandman, this person is the last person I would choose.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I still remember where a Christian paid him to do a video explaining what he thought of some Bible verses, and Sandman went and dumped on the person’s religion in the video, pretty much saying a real man going his own way doesn’t need God.  I think a MGTOW shouldn’t play sucker to anyone.  They really shouldn’t be asking these guys to do a video specifically for them, and paying them either.  Maybe Sandman is teaching a lesson here or something.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Darth Sin wrote:

I Slay Pretty Lies recently made a video that, I think, excellently exposes Sandman’s true goals. Sandman Co-Opting MGTOW Really Sandman ? Understanding human nature is pseudo-intellectualism ? MGTOW needs to enter a revolt ? Complex issues are simplified in the most ridiculous reductio ad absurdum possible ? We just spent the past few months dealing with Reverse Male and his attempt to co-opt MGTOW as part of his AVFM/TradCon goals and now we have Sandman trying to co-opt MGTOW for some form of revolution ? F~~~ that s~~~. MGTOWs are not interested in a revolt. Do you see Herbivore Men on a revolt ? Nope, they are just minding their own business and living their lives without giving a single arsef~~~ about what society expects of them. Truly, Sandscam has gone full retard. Here are some choice bits from the comments

The thought pattern:

* Play a victim narrative.

* Speak of some revolution.

* Make one feel they are the agent of change and pump it up.

 

I am bothered by a victim narrative here.  I can see a healthy venting, but my feeling is that there is too much “women are evil, and I am a victim” thought going about.   For me, I see that MGTOW causes one to stop being a victim, and moves on.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Darth Sin wrote:

Do you see Herbivore Men on a revolt ? Nope, they are just minding their own business and living their lives without giving a single arsef~~~ about what society expects of them.

Really? Could have fooled me.

[BDParticipant 1146]

I appreciate everything Sandman has done, the sheer amount of material he has done must have taken up a considerable amount of his time, and nobody could be perfect in everything when making that many videos. I’d cut the guy some slack, he has contributed a lot to the cause. Give him some comments on his videos, let him know….

I like to take in lots of materials and opinions, and from that I think for myself, I do not take any source as “gospel”.

I am here because of Sandman, despite his wacky logic. So the guy has “First Contact” value.

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

I look at Sandman as a decent “internet friend” that has been pussy whipped recently. I don’t hate the dude, I just feel bad for him. Pussy clouds his message. He’ll emerge eventually, just like all my other friends that ran the pussy gauntlet. Til then, I just do what I always do, my own thing and shrug my shoulders at him.

That being said I haven’t been keeping up with him at all, so if he’s returned with some new “revolution because I’ve been dumped” message then all he needs is a long chat and cold beer. He’ll be fine.

@snake

Snake wrote:

Really? Could have fooled me.

Those herbivore men make up a large percentage of Japan’s male population. If even 10% of those herbivores were passionate against valentine’s day it’d still make the news, I’d wager a lot of them aren’t bothering with valentine’s day in any capacity.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Exsliventxs wrote:

If even 10% of those herbivores were passionate against valentine’s day it’d still make the news, I’d wager a lot of them aren’t bothering with valentine’s day in any capacity.

10% is all it takes to change opinion.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Sandman stated on youtube that he slept with a feminist because the sex was good. WTF???? LOL
I’ll post the video on him being interviews for the first time.

He’s all about making his youtube channel popular that’s about it. He is going to f~~~ up MGTOW is he keeps going.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[LucidLeoParticipant 65]

I first got into MGTOW from LuiMarco, and he got me into Sandman. At first I loved Sandman’s content, and I consider him great for introducing men to MGTOW (At least some of his videos, because they are so basic).  However, the more advanced I became, I looked to Bar Bar, Spetsnaz and the others for more content. I got sick of Sandman talking about wanting to have a surrogate kid, then he talks s~~~ about single mothers, like a single father is not as stupid. I do not hate him or anything, I just disagree with him and I got what I needed out of him. I do not like seeing MGTOW’s waste so much time hating on him when he is clearly committed to making a lot of content about MGTOW, no one else is making videos everyday from what I see, at least not that high quality.

 

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

My first sorta red pill channel was sandman, but sometimes when I listened to him talk i felt like i’m listening to a woman.His extremely subtly expressed disdain for men who’ve ended contact with women entirely is contradictory with his supposed MGTOW stance.

[BDParticipant 1146]

I just watched the video where he referred to Mgtow as “cowards”. This was uncalled for. Too bad really, I lost a lot of respect for him.

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

Sandman stated on youtube that he slept with a feminist because the sex was good. WTF???? LOL I’ll post the video on him being interviews for the first time. He’s all about making his youtube channel popular that’s about it. He is going to f~~~ up MGTOW is he keeps going.

If sleeping with a regular woman is taking the blue pill again, what color is the pill you take when you sleep with a feminist?  So, he goes on assault in order to cover his tracks?

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

We should all just send random reports to youtube on all of sandman’s videos. Get his s~~~ taken down.

Too many people are getting pulled into his guise.

My Goal: To Leave Society.

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